Conflicts in the Middle East & Northern Africa

[Zarni]

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15350452,00.html

Libyan power vacuum could lead to nightmare scenarios

Hardly a nightmare much of the same debris really

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

Western Goverments alleys with AQ in Libya

[Po-drum]

Pepe Escobar: Al-Qaeda asset leading rebels in Tripoli - YouTube

[Onur]

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html

This is just an another confirmation for the suspicions of Al-Qaida being an organization created by CIA.



Btw, i just saw that one of the sons of Gaddafi says that they are coming to the Tripoli with 20.000 armed youth to take back the city or die if necessary;

Libya live: 20,000 armed youths 'heading to Tripoli', claims heir
Live coverage of Libya as Gaddafi's heir Saif al-Islam gives final war cry saying "victory is close".

Saif al-Islam is claiming to be hiding in a suburb outside Tripoli and says his father Col Gaddafi is well. He has again urged Libyans to wage war of attrition against rebel "rats". Interestingly, he says nobody loyal to the regime would surrender to the rebels. Given that his brother Saadi is reportedly offering to surrender "to end the bloodshed", this could indicate a rift in the Gaddafi family.

He slammed NATO, which helped oust his father from Tripoli by providing air support to rebels, saying the alliance was now supporting an ex-al Qaeda member who he said had been appointed to a senior position in the capital Tripoli. "You will regret this a lot," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ibya-live.html

[Zarni]

Islamists' role evolving in Libya

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-08-31/Islamists--evolving-role-in-Libya/50209166/1?csp=34news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+usatoday-NewsTopStories+%28News+-+Top+Stories%29

Yet another Islamist State made by the West

[Onur]

USA and the west in general are obliged to create islamist states in middle-east. They have to do that otherwise they cannot leech their energy sources. In a democratic middle-east, Israel wouldn't survive for more than a year and people would never let western corporate giants to leech their own natural gas, oil, minerals etc.

The trick is simple; put puppet dictator in reign, let him run wild with fascist, authoritarian ways, until his people gets scared to death about the dictator and his regime. Let their clergy get bigger, fatter and richer, then use the islamic religious dogmas to put his people in sleep, manipulate them `till their minds gets fckup up.


You know what, actually western world is not that different at all. Instead of dictators, they use federalist, liberal bureaucrats there, who are also the slaves of the same corporate giants. Let the church get bigger, more powerful and let the big bearded guys manipulate the masses until their minds gets fcked up. While degenerating people`s real identities, keep generating the new but fake ones like "being Europeans", "christian brotherhood" etc.

Whole world runs over the idea of the clash of east and west. The politicians and clergy are always the partners in crime regardless of east or west, islam or christianity. But to me, whole thing is just working for few elites but harmful for humanity.

[julie]

Your anology Onur is spot on

[Risto the Great]

Onur, stop being so negative.
There is always hope ... just watch some Disney movies and take a pill

[Onur]

No RTG, i am actually optimist about that. I was just trying to describe the situation of past century `till our age but i think people are started to wake up and realize the truths.

I believe that in our lifetime, we will see the disappearance of many norms of the 20th century, maybe destruction of capitalist world too, i don't know. I am not sure what will exactly happen but i am sure that something will happen , a change. The biggest clue for that is the more aggressive policies of the great powers in the past decade. We know that if a power elite is about to die, they become more aggressive as it starts to be in the death agony.

[George S.]

onur the fight on libiya hasn't ended .Gadafi & etc are fighting on & saying they are not giving up.What do you think?

[The LION will ROAR]

Paper: Croat and Serb mercenaries executed in Libya
Tuesday, 13 September 2011

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/19122/46/

Libyan rebels have executed nine Croatian and 12 Serbian mercenaries who fought with fugitive leader Moamer Gaddafi's forces against the uprising that toppled his regime, the Zabreb daily Vecernji List reported late Monday.

The paper quoting a rebel fighter as a source, said the mercenaries were seized in a Libyan insurance building in the city of Misurata.

There were additional mercenaries slain from Bosnia, Ukraine, Russia and Colombia, the newspaper reported.

Many experienced soldiers from the wars in the former Yugoslavia reportedly went to Libya to fight with Gaddafi's forces against the rebels, who now control most of the country including Tripoli and are fighting fierce battles near Sirte, the hometown of the former Libyan leader, who is still on the run.


We all know they are not ethinc Serb's or Crow's

[Soldier of Macedon]

TLWR, are you suggesting that they're Bosniaks rather than Croats or Serbs?

[George S.]

gadafi has a lot of money & resources at his disposal as for merceneries they are a dime dozen.

[Zarni]

The Libyan Insurgents are known as incompetent shitty fighters that is why Mercenaries have been attracted to Libya for a good pay day

[makedonche]

TLWR, are you suggesting that they're Bosniaks rather than Croats or Serbs?

SOM
My guess would be shiptari is what TLWR was alluding to!

[Soldier of Macedon]

Not sure how many of them there are in Croatia, Bosnia or Serbia.