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  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    the us told iraq it could go in & take over kuwait.The us knows really that kuwait belongs to iraq.The us tricked them to go in & the us attacked them.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      Yes on the syrian front just keep the albanians flowing they can all go that way.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • TrueMacedonian
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 3812

        News and Analysis of Assyrian and Assyrian-related Issues Worldwide


        Turkish NGO Recruiting Muslim Albanians for War in Syria

        Posted GMT 8-14-2013 18:55:53

        TEHRAN -- Turkish charity organization, IHH, has recruited hundreds of Muslim Albanians and sent them to Syria after military trainings in Turkey to take part in the armed struggle against the Damascus government, informed sources said.

        "The IHH, which operates under the cover of relief and charity activities and acts in full coordination with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and extremist Saudi Wahhabi groups, has so far recruited and transferred a number of 769 Albanians to Syria to join the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA)," an informed source who asked to remain anonymous for fear of his life, told FNA on Wednesday.

        The source, who has defected the program after two weeks of war in Syria, added that those recruited by the IHH "have been transfered to Turkey via Tirana and undergone military trainings by retired US officers stationed in Reyhanli military base in the Southern Turkish province of Hatay".

        "The last one of these recruited groups comprised 90 Albanian nationals who were flown to Istanbul from Tirana on Turkish Air flight no. 1078 on June 30, 2013," he continued.

        Asked about the cause of his defection, the source said, "Despite IHH's efforts to recruit the said people for the FSA, around 450 of these Muslim Albanians have defected the FSA after a few weeks of war and joined al-Qaeda-linked groups, specially the al-Nusra Front" as al-Qaeda groups enjoy better supplies, backup and organization and lead the war of insurgency in Syria.

        The source said he returned to Albania after he had seen the war crimes committed by the terrorist groups against civilians in Syria.

        He said he did not meet his family after returning to Albania as he was deeply fearful of the reaction of the Turkish intelligence officers and their mercenaries in Albania, adding that his family joined him only after escaping Tirana.

        In June, tens of retired US Army officers accompanied by a military cargo infiltrated into Syria through Turkey's Hatay province.

        "An American C-130 plane carrying a cargo of hi-tech telecommunications equipment and devices and 57 retired US officers landed in Turkey's Hatay province this morning," an informed source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told FNA on June 23.

        "The US officers crossed the border with Syria via Reyhanli (in Hatay province) and their goal is to take charge of the central command of all military activities of armed rebels in Syria," added the source.

        He mentioned that the military cargo, containing the telecommunications equipment, left Reyhanli for the border crossing after the US officers arrived at their destination in Northern Syria.

        Also in June, a report said that the US spy agency was gearing up to send weapons to insurgent groups in Syria through secret bases in Turkey and Jordan.

        "The bases are expected to begin conveying shipments of weapons and ammunition within weeks," the US daily, The Washington Post, reported in June, quoting unnamed American officials as saying.

        The IHH was established in Istanbul in 1991 by advocates of Turkey's Welfare Party founded by former Turkish Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan. It played a positive role in supporting Bosnian Muslims during the Bosnia War (1992-1995).

        Throughout the coming years, IHH distanced itself from Turkey's Welfare and Felicity Parties. After the outbreak of unrests in Syria in March 2011 it actively took part in helping the Syrian opposition groups.

        IHH was supposed to provide humanitarian relief in case of outbreak of war, earthquake, hunger or conflict. Current president of the IHH is Fehmi Bulent Yildirim, but his deputy Osman Atalay is practically in charge of IHH's affairs.

        Atalay acts in full coordination with Davutoglu, Salafis and Wahhabis, and is engaged in humanitarian relief operations on the surface.

        According to the Foundation of Islamic Brotherhood, there is corroborative evidence that IHH (under the cover of humanitarian aid) is providing the terrorists in Syria with heavy weaponry, including anti-aircraft missiles and Turkish newspapers and western officials in Syria have mentioned this help to the Syrian rebels.

        In October, IHH sent heavy weaponry to Syrian rebels under the guise of humanitarian relief aid.

        "We have relationships today in Syria that we didn't have six months ago," US President Barack Obama's deputy national security adviser Benjamin J. Rhodes said during a White House briefing.

        US officials announced in June that Obama had authorized sending weapons to the militants in Syria 'for the first time.'

        In mid-June 2012, American newspaper USA Today quoted Christopher Harmer, an analyst with the Institute for the Study of War, as saying that the US is vetting to use Turkey's Incirlik Air Base, which is technically a NATO air base, as a hub for supplying militants in Syria with weapons. Reports had also earlier revealed that Turkish Air has been transiting Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants from North Waziristan in Pakistan to the Turkish borders with Syria.

        "The Turkish intelligence agency sent 93 Al-Qaeda and Taliban terrorists from Waziristan to Hatay province near the border with Syria on a Turkish Air Airbus flight No. 709 on September 10, 2012 and via the Karachi-Istanbul flight route," the source told FNA in September, adding that the flight had a short stop in Istanbul.

        The 93 terrorists transited to the Turkish border with Syria included Al-Qaeda militants from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan and a group of Arabs residing in Waziristan, he added.

        FNA dispatches from Pakistan said new al-Qaeda members were trained in North Waziristan until a few days ago and then sent to Syria, but now they are transferring their command center to the borders between Turkey and Syria as a first step to be followed by a last move directly into the restive parts of Syria on the other side of the border.

        The al-Qaeda, backed by Turkey, the US and its regional Arab allies, had set up a new camp in Northern Waziristan in Pakistan to train Salafi and Jihadi terrorists and dispatched them to Syria via Turkish borders.

        "A new Al-Qaeda has been created in the region through the financial and logistical backup of Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and a number of western states, specially the US," a source told FNA in September.

        Ali Mahdian told FNA that the US and the British governments have been playing with the al-Qaeda through their Arab proxy regimes in the region in a bid to materialize their goals, specially in Syria.

        He said the Saudi and Qatari regimes serve as interlocutors to facilitate the CIA and MI6 plans in Syria through instigating terrorist operations by Salafi and Arab Jihadi groups, adding that the terrorists do not know that they actually exercise the US plans.

        "Turkey has also been misusing extremist Salafis and Al-Qaeda terrorists to intensify the crisis in Syria and it has recently augmented its efforts in this regard by helping the new Al-Qaeda branch set up a camp in Northern Waziristan in Pakistan to train Al-Qaeda and Taliban members as well as Turkish Salafis and Arab Jihadis who are later sent to Syria for terrorist operations," said the source.

        He said the camp in Waziristan is not just a training center, but a command center for terrorist operations against Syria.

        Yet, the source said the US and Britain are looking at the new Al-Qaeda force as an instrument to attain their goals and do not intend to support them to ascend to power, "because if Salafi elements in Syria ascend to power, they will create many problems for the US, the Western states and Turkey in future".

        "Thus, the US, Britain and Turkey are looking at the Al-Qaeda as a tactical instrument," he said, and warned of the regional and global repercussions of the US and Turkish aid to the Al-Qaeda and Salafi groups.

        "Unfortunately, these group of countries have just focused on the short-term benefits that the Salafis and the Al-Qaeda can provide for them and ignore the perils of this support in the long run," he said.

        "At present, the western countries, specially Britain which hosts and controls the Jihadi Salafi groups throughout the world are paving the ground for these extremists to leave their homes - mostly in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) as well as those who live in Europe and the US - for Waziristan," the source added.
        Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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        • Big Bad Sven
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1528

          Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria.

          telegraph.co.uk
          By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
          12:00PM BST 27 Aug 2013

          Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

          The revelations come amid high tension in the Middle East, with US, British, and French warship poised for missile strikes in Syria. Iran has threatened to retaliate.

          The strategic jitters pushed Brent crude prices to a five-month high of $112 a barrel. “We are only one incident away from a serious oil spike. The market is a lot tighter than people think,” said Chris Skrebowski, editor of Petroleum Review.

          Leaked transcripts of a closed-door meeting between Russia’s Vladimir Putin and Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan shed an extraordinary light on the hard-nosed Realpolitik of the two sides.

          Prince Bandar, head of Saudi intelligence, allegedly confronted the Kremlin with a mix of inducements and threats in a bid to break the deadlock over Syria. “Let us examine how to put together a unified Russian-Saudi strategy on the subject of oil. The aim is to agree on the price of oil and production quantities that keep the price stable in global oil markets,” he said at the four-hour meeting with Mr Putin. They met at Mr Putin’s dacha outside Moscow three weeks ago.

          “We understand Russia’s great interest in the oil and gas in the Mediterranean from Israel to Cyprus. And we understand the importance of the Russian gas pipeline to Europe. We are not interested in competing with that. We can cooperate in this area,” he said, purporting to speak with the full backing of the US.

          The talks appear to offer an alliance between the OPEC cartel and Russia, which together produce over 40m barrels a day of oil, 45pc of global output. Such a move would alter the strategic landscape.

          The details of the talks were first leaked to the Russian press. A more detailed version has since appeared in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir, which has Hezbollah links and is hostile to the Saudis.

          As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.

          Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”

          President Putin has long been pushing for a global gas cartel, issuing the `Moscow Declaration’ last to month “defend suppliers and resist unfair pressure”. This would entail beefing up the Gas Exporting Countries Forum (GECF), a talking shop.

          Mr Skrebowski said it is unclear what the Saudis can really offer the Russians on gas, beyond using leverage over Qatar and others to cut output of liquefied natural gas (LGN). “The Qataris are not going to obey Saudi orders,” he said.

          Saudi Arabia could help boost oil prices by restricting its own supply. This would be a shot in the arm for Russia, which is near recession and relies on an oil price near $100 to fund the budget.

          But it would be a dangerous strategy for the Saudis if it pushed prices to levels that endangered the world’s fragile economic recovery. Crude oil stocks in the US have already fallen sharply this year. Goldman Sachs said the “surplus cushion” in global stocks built up since 2008 has been completely eliminated.

          Mr Skrebowski said trouble is brewing in a string of key supply states. “Libya is reverting to war lordism. Nigerian is drifting into a bandit state with steady loss of output. And Iraq is going back to the sort of Sunni-Shia civil war we saw in 2006-2007,” he said.

          The Putin-Bandar meeting was stormy, replete with warnings of a “dramatic turn” in Syria. Mr Putin was unmoved by the Saudi offer, though western pressure has escalated since then. “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters,” he said, referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier.

          Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch. Events are unfolding exactly as he foretold.



          As the bolded text says, the corrupt pedophiles in Saudi Arabia were going to unleash chechen terrorists upon the russians if they did not agree.

          These are the people america are in bed with. So much for democracy and fair politics.

          What a joke

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          • Big Bad Sven
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1528

            Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria

            A grim “urgent action memorandum” issued today from the office of President Putin to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is ordering a “massive military strike” against Saudi Arabia in the event that the West attacks Syria.

            According to Kremlin sources familiar with this extraordinary “war order,” Putin became “enraged” after his early August meeting with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan who warned that if Russia did not accept the defeat of Syria, Saudi Arabia would unleash Chechen terrorists under their control to cause mass death and chaos during the Winter Olympics scheduled to be held 7-23 February 2014 in Sochi, Russia.

            Lebanese newspaper As-Safir confirmed this amazing threat against Russia saying that Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord by stating: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”

            Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”

            London’s The Telegraph News Service further reported today that Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a sweeping deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia’s gas contracts, if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria, an offer Putin replied to by saying “Our stance on Assad will never change. We believe that the Syrian regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters” [Putin said referring to footage showing a Jihadist rebel eating the heart and liver of a Syrian soldier HERE], and which Prince Bandar in turn warned that there can be “no escape from the military option” if Russia declines the olive branch.

            Critical to note, and as we had previously reported on in our 28 January 2013 report “Obama Plan For World War III Stuns Russia,” the Federal Security Services (FSB) confirmed the validity of the released hacked emails of the British based defence company, Britam Defence that stunningly warned the Obama regime was preparing to unleash a series of attacks against both Syria and Iran in a move Russian intelligence experts warned could very well cause World War III.

            According to this FSB report, Britam Defence, one of the largest private mercenary forces in the world, was the target of a “massive hack” of its computer files by an “unknown state sponsored entity” this past January who then released a number of critical emails between its top two executives, founder Philip Doughty and his Business Development Director David Goulding.

            The two most concerning emails between Doughty and Goulding, this report says, states that the Obama regime has approved a “false flag” attack in Syria using chemical weapons, and that Britam has been approved to participate in the West’s warn on Iran, and as we can read:

            Email 1: Phil, We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. We’ll have to deliver a CW (chemical weapon) to Homs (Syria), a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? Kind regards David

            Email 2: Phil, Please see attached details of preparatory measures concerning the Iranian issue. Participation of Britam in the operation is confirmed by the Saudis.

            With the events now spiraling out of control in Syria, and London’s Independent News Service now reporting that Prince Bandar is “pushing for war,” Russian foreign ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich further warned the West today by stating, “Attempts to bypass the Security Council, once again to create artificial groundless excuses for a military intervention in the region are fraught with new suffering in Syria and catastrophic consequences for other countries of the Middle East and North Africa.”

            Heedless of Russian warnings which have fallen on deaf ears, however, British Prime Minister David Cameron this morning recalled the British Parliament to vote on attacking Syria as the Obama regime abruptly cancelled their meeting with Russia scheduled for tomorrow on finding a path to peace for Syria, and the West begins its plans to attack the Syrian nation “within days.”

            As Syria itself has warned that should it be attacked by the West there will be “global chaos,” the Western peoples themselves have not been told of the fact that on 17 May 2013, Putin ordered Russian military forces to “immediately move” from Local War to Regional War operational status and to be “fully prepared” to expand to Large-Scale War should either the US or EU enter into the Syrian Civil War, a situation they are still in at this very hour.

            With Putin’s previous order, and as we had reported on in our 17 May report “Russia Issues “All-Out War” Alert Over Syria,” and now combined with his new ordering of massive retaliatory strikes against Saudi Arabia, any attack on Syria is viewed by Russia as being an attack on itself.

            And as we had previously explained in great detail, the fight over Syria, being led by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and their lap-dog Western allies, has but one single objective: To break Russia’s hold on the European Union natural gas market which a pipeline through Syria would accomplish, and as reported by London’s Financial Times News Service this past June:



            Looks like World War 3 is around the corner. Hopefully the Russians get to demolish Saudi Arabia.

            Risto the great, i will be seeing your pretty face in hell

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            • EgejskaMakedonia
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 1665

              This is starting to get very intense. I wonder if the Russians are bluffing or not. Only time will tell.

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              • Big Bad Sven
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 1528

                Experts Doubt Syrian Chemical Weapons Claims

                Preliminary Evidence Indicates that the Syrian Government Did NOT Launch a Chemical Weapon Attack Against Its People



                A few questions we should ask our selves:

                Assad knows the red line is the use of chemical weapons, why would he be so irrational as to use Chemical weapons when ballistics would do the trick without the international backlash? The rebels on the other hand know If Assad uses Chemical weapons, they win the civil war - Assad knows that would be the end of his life. Who is more likely to use chemical weapons? Dont give me the fact he is irrational, because he clearly isn't. The death toll has reached 100,000+ according to western sources, though I ask this. Its claimed Assad brutally murders innocents - childrens women and such. But why? Hes been in office for 13 years, previous to the uprising did he kill children and such? No. So then - why would he do so now, why would he take actions in killing those that pose no threat but also rile up mass support against his legitimacy?

                It makes no sense. If those dead are fighters, from a strict realism point of view, does he not have a right to do so? Regardless of morality - they are rebelling against his legitimacy, you think any other President would do different?

                Also why would he use chemical weapons when the USA have told him it would start a war, and why would he use chemical weapons so close to his capital and places of control?
                Doesn't seem logical that Syrian military (composed of Syrians) would use chemical weapons against Syrian civilians, when they are winning the conflict and wouldn't want to give any reason for NATO to go to war against them.

                We have been lied to again
                Last edited by Big Bad Sven; 08-28-2013, 10:22 AM.

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                • Big Bad Sven
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1528

                  By the way, in the 1980's america's then ally Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran. THis was known and signed by the USA

                  Funny how things come full circle in life

                  Why Do Some Countries Hate America? - YouTube
                  Last edited by Big Bad Sven; 08-28-2013, 11:15 AM.

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    Blind freddy can tell you russia has vested interests in syria.It's not a question of if the us has a another war in its hands to deal.They have pointed to the fact that troops will have to be sent to deal with the quagmire ,what a fucking mess.I don;t see anyway out these people are hellbent on killing each other.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Gocka
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 2306

                      This has the potential to blow and blow up big. Everyone and their mother knows the USA has been looking for a reason to attack Syria for years now, and it looks like they are tired of waiting. If Russia stands its ground and god forbid retaliates, we could very well see all out war. This is scary as hell.

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                      • Big Bad Sven
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1528

                        This young Syrian girl from Australia has appeared on many TV shows and is very active in prooving to the world who fucked up the 'rebels' are and what is really going on in Syria (american expansionism)

                        Some video's of her, and they are great, she tells them how it is. She knows more then 99% of the idiots who just watch cnn


                        Obama's Lies About Chemical Weapons In Syria - YouTube


                        The sad thing is you wont see a Macedonian girl be this into supporting macedonia, making video's and facebook pages in exposing grk, serbian, buglarian and shiptar lies, going on talk shows etc

                        You would get the opposite. She would be going to greece for holiday every summer, buy her products from albania, know a few phrases in albanian because its cool, and at night lust for serbian alpha males and turbo-folk songs

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                        • Big Bad Sven
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 1528

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GrEPadG0pQk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GrEPadG0pQk

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                          • Egejska
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 72



                            An idea whose time has come, cannot be stopped by any army or any government.
                            Ron Paul.


                            Don't steal. The government hates competition.

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                            • Big Bad Sven
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1528

                              The TV tells me that all Syrians hate Al Assad and are behind the 'rebels' and team america. Nah brah This must be all Iranian/Russian propaganda then:

                              Syrian Girl speaks out the Truth in a pro Syria rally in Sydney, Australia [Hands Off Syria] - YouTube

                              Syrian Girl Rally Speech Hands of Syria 15 June 2013 Syria war - YouTube


                              Btw you wont see a young macedonian girl ever do this

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                              • DedoAleko
                                Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 969

                                Syria Hacks Marines.com, Urges Cooperation Against Al Qaeda

                                "This is a message written by your brothers in the Syrian Army, who have been fighting al-Qaida for the last 3 years. We understand your patriotism and love for your country so please understand our love for ours. Obama is a traitor who wants to put your lives in danger to rescue al- Qaida insurgents.

                                Marines, please take a look at what your comrades think about Obama's alliance with al-Qaida against Syria. Your officer in charge probably has no qualms about sending you to die against soldiers just like you, fighting a vile common enemy. The Syrian army should be your ally not your enemy.

                                Refuse your orders and concentrate on the real reason every soldier joins their military, to defend their homeland. You're more than welcome to fight alongside our army rather than against it.

                                Your brothers, the Syrian army soldiers. A message delivered by the SEA"


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