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  • fatso
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 301

    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    Fatso after the way you treated him i don't think he'll respond.

    WTF are going on about now ? Your friend is a coward.

    George keep me out of your trash.

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      can!. We all love to hide behind our pcs because the boogieman is going to get us,
      Last edited by George S.; 03-24-2012, 11:21 AM. Reason: ed
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • Onur
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 2389

        According to the reports they got, British newspaper Sunday Times said that Israel has a permanent base in kurdish northern Iraq and Mossad agents using this base for secretly entering Iran, both for collecting intelligence and organizing terrorist attacks like killing Iranian scientists;
        Israeli Spies Disguised as Iranian Soldiers on Mission Inside Iran
        A report published in The Sunday Times on March 25 suggests that “Israel is using a permanent base in Iraqi Kurdistan to launch cross-border intelligence missions in an attempt to find ‘smoking gun’ evidence that Iran is building a nuclear warhead.” (Israeli spies scour Iran in nuclear hunt, The Sunday Times, March 25, 2012)

        Western sources told the Times Israel was monitoring “radioactivity and magnitude of explosives tests” and that “special forces used Black Hawk helicopters to carry commandos disguised as members of the Iranian military and using Iranian military vehicles”. The sources believe “Iranians are trying to hide evidence of warhead tests in preparation for a possible IAEA visit”. (Cited in Report: Israeli soldiers scour Iran for nukes, Ynet, March 25, 2012)

        The number of Israeli intelligence missions at the Parchin military base in Iran has increased in the past few months, according to the article. During that period, Tehran has been negotiating with the IAEA which had requested to visit Parchin. According to Iran's permanent representative to the IAEA, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, both parties had agreed in early February that the visit would take place in March. (Gareth Porter, Details of Talks with IAEA Belie Charge Iran Refused Cooperation, IPS, March 21, 2012)

        The IAEA requested to visit Parchin in late January and late February, after having agreed to a visit in March. The IAEA thus requested to visit the military complex exactly at the same time Israel was intensifying its secret operations to allegedly search for a “smoking gun”.

        A few years ago it has been suggested that Israel was the source of fake intelligence, a stolen laptop, related to Iran’s alleged nuclear program. The New York Times reported in 2005 on what was presented as “the strongest evidence” Iran was building nuclear weapons:

        American intelligence officials called the leaders of the international atomic inspection agency to the top of a skyscraper overlooking the Danube in Vienna and unveiled the contents of what they said was a stolen Iranian laptop computer.

        They presented them as the strongest evidence yet that, despite Iran's insistence that its nuclear program is peaceful, the country is trying to develop a compact warhead to fit atop its Shahab missile, which can reach Israel and other countries in the Middle East. (William J. Broad and David E. Sanger Relying on Computer, U.S. Seeks to Prove Iran's Nuclear Aims - New York Times, November 13, 2005)

        In 2010, an investigative report suggested that those documents were fake:

        The warhead shown in the schematics had the familiar "dunce cap" shape of the original North Korean No Dong missile, which Iran had acquired in the mid-1990s [...]

        The laptop documents had depicted the wrong re-entry vehicle being redesigned [...]

        The origin of the laptop documents may never be proven conclusively, but the accumulated evidence points to Israel as the source. As early as 1995, the head of the Israel Defense Forces' military intelligence research and assessment division, Yaakov Amidror, tried unsuccessfully to persuade his American counterparts that Iran was planning to "go nuclear." By 2003-2004, Mossad's reporting on the Iranian nuclear program was viewed by high-ranking CIA officials as an effort to pressure the Bush administration into considering military action against Iran's nuclear sites, according to Israeli sources cited by a pro-Israeli news service." (Gareth Porter, Exclusive Report: Evidence of Iran Nuclear Weapons Program May Be Fraudulent, Global Research, November 18, 2010).

        The fact that Israeli intelligence officers were on a secret mission in Parchin, dressed up as Iranians and driving Iranian military vehicles, while the IAEA was pressuring Tehran to visit that precise location, raises serious questions. The stated goal of those secret missions is the search for a smoking gun. The smoking gun allegations regarding Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction have proven that such evidence can be fabricated and used to launch so-called pre-emptive wars.

        March 27, 2012

        http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=29981

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        • Onur
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2389


          Here is the response of Iranian islamic authorities;
          Iran’s Ahl al-Bait World Assembly condemns a recent fatwa (religious decree) issued by Saudi Arabia's top religious official who has called for destruction of all churches on the Arabian Peninsula.

          The latest fatwa by Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al al-Shaikh came in the context of a response to a Kuwaiti civil society organization that proposed for the new Kuwaiti constitution, approved by parliament last week, a new article that would forbid the building of new churches in the country.

          “First of all, Wahhabi muftis are not representing Islam. The world should know that the religion which is now being publicized in Saudi Arabia is not true Islam,” Ahl al-Bait World Assembly said in a statement published by Ahl al-Bait News Agency (ABNA) on Tuesday.

          The statement added that the content of the new fatwa was against the commands of God as well as the tradition of Prophet of Islam Muhammad (PBUH) and his descendants and is, therefore, rejected not only by Shias, but also by Sunni Muslims.

          Ahl al-Bait World Assembly noted that throughout its history, Islam has coexisted with Christians and Jews and such a fatwa has never been issued by the Prophet of Islam (PBUH), his progeny, and subsequent Muslim caliphs.

          “Therefore, the grand mufti of Wahhabis has issued a fatwa which has no precedence in [Islamic] jurisprudential circles…and has never been issued by great scientific centers of Muslims…,” it said.

          The Assembly stated that the fatwa is also a clear intervention in the internal affairs of other Muslim countries because the Saudi mufti has not confined his fatwa to Saudi borders but has included the whole Arabian Peninsula.

          The Assembly also slammed the “deadly silence” of Muslim scholars in the face of such fatwas which distort the image of Islam.

          “Aren’t scholars of various Islamic sects in Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, the Arabian Peninsula and other parts of the world supposed to react to such unprecedented fatwas which depict a distorted picture of Islam in the world?” it asked.

          The Assembly criticized international human rights organizations as well as Western and Christian governments for their support of Wahhabi terrorists saying, “If you had not offered various forms of support to Wahhabi and Takfiri terrorists when they martyred Muslims in Iraq, Pakistan and Iran, today you would not be attacked in this manner.”

          http://www.presstv.ir/detail/233420.html

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          • Zarni
            Banned
            • May 2011
            • 672

            l-Qaeda joins ranks of Syrian revolt backers
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            Link copied to clipboardemail story to a friend print version Published: 12 February, 2012, 12:13

            Ayman al-Zawahri (AFP Photo)
            TRENDS: Syria unrest TAGS: Conflict, Military, Politics, Terrorism


            The leader of Al-Qaeda has voiced his support for the Syrian uprising. He called on Muslims to join the opposition in Syria in their drive to oust President Bashar Assad.
            In an eight-minute video address posted on Sunday on a jihadist website, Ayman al-Zawahri called on Muslims in Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan to aid the Syrian rebels.
            Continue your revolt and anger, don't accept anything else apart from independent, respectful governments, the successor of Osama Bin Laden urged the Syrians.
            He also called on Syrians not to rely on Western or Arab governments, whom he said would impose a new regime subservient to the West.
            The news comes as the Arab League is discussing in Cairo their next step in tackling the Syrian crisis. Earlier Russia and China blocked a draft resolution at the UN Security Council, which called for Assad to step down. Now a plan to send a joint UN-Arab League observer mission to Syria is on the table.
            The country has been in turmoil for almost a year now. The government says it fights off foreign-sponsored terrorist groups masquerading as public uprising. Critics of the regime call it a bloody crackdown on Syrian citizens.

            The leader of Al-Qaeda has voiced his support for the Syrian uprising. He called on Muslims to join the opposition in Syria in their drive to oust President Bashar Assad.

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            • Zarni
              Banned
              • May 2011
              • 672

              Pork Eating Crusader Patch

              The Pork Eating Crusader Patch was made for the pork eater on a mission.


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              Buy it online $5 USD

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                zarni are you going to get one & wear it with pride?.Also start munching on some pork.Do you like Pork??
                Last edited by George S.; 03-29-2012, 01:11 AM. Reason: ed
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • Zarni
                  Banned
                  • May 2011
                  • 672

                  Nah I hate pork

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                  • Brian
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1130

                    LOL. Have you had your 'pork' trimmed?

                    But seriously if the morons wearing them could understand it is the elites way of forcing racists and just plain violent types to push the Muslim and Christian communities to kill each other - the elites believe in the devil and it has been said they see themselves as the children of Cain (from the Bible).

                    It is doubtful the Crusader leaders were really Christians. Look for the strange looking red cross on symbols ie with 2 'cross-beams' on coat of arms ect.
                    like...(not the 'Russian Cross').




                    and


                    "A very old form of this cross, a depiction of a shepherd’s staff, was used in ancient Sumeria as an ideogram for rulership."

                    Get it? - not Christian - rulership.
                    Last edited by Brian; 03-29-2012, 03:39 PM.

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                    • George S.
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10116

                      Zarni your not muslim? or you hate pork oink oink.
                      Brian but didn't they try to kill off the christians infidels with their huge smitars.
                      I love pork, especially fried gibrinki,fried bubrezi,also pithtia.
                      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                      GOTSE DELCEV

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                      • Zarni
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 672

                        "kill em all and let god sort them out"

                        What US special Forces hold that slogan to heart, anyone

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                        • Onur
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2389

                          Where is the Vangelovski the human rights champion? Did he ever leave a comment here? He does not care about the more one million Iraqis and Afghans who has been murdered in the last 10 years? Or what about the 1,5 million arabs and turkmens who has been expelled out from their ancestral homeland for creating an homogenous kurdish population in the northern iraqi kurdistan?

                          Or wait..., he also wears this badge too?;
                          Last edited by Onur; 03-29-2012, 06:09 AM.

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                          • Brian
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1130

                            Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                            "kill em all and let god sort them out"

                            What US special Forces hold that slogan to heart, anyone
                            It's first attributed to Pope Innocent III (don't you love the name) when he initiated the Albigensian or Cathar Crusade (the 20 year war) against them and all heretics (protestants). It was also the 'birth' of the Jesuits (murderess persecutors).

                            The phrase was adopted as a motto by the USA Marines and Green Berets although other special forces/commandos/parachute regiments (red berets) are said to have used it.

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                            • Brian
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1130

                              Originally posted by Onur View Post
                              Or wait..., he also wears this badge too?;
                              I could guess he eats pork, but as for the rest it depends if he joined Phoenix's NWO.

                              Remember to beware of the one claiming to be the Mahdi - the first one is the opposite one.

                              Waiting for Islam's Messiah



                              July 17, 2008
                              QOM, Iran -- Iran's president believes Allah has chosen him to prepare the world for the coming of an Islamic 'savior' called the Mahdi.

                              But before the Mahdi's return, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes there must be global chaos - even if he has to create it himself.

                              Whether it's his belief that Israel should be wiped off the map, denials of the Holocaust, obsession with going nuclear, or support for radical Islamic terrorist groups, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a man on a divine mission.

                              To understand him, and that mission, you have travel to the small dusty village of Jamkaran tucked in a corner of Iran's holy city of Qom.

                              On a recent Tuesday afternoon, CBN News made that journey heading south out of Iran's capital, Tehran. Some 95 miles, and a couple of wrong turns later, we arrived at the Jamkaran mosque on the outskirts of Qom.

                              Behind the Jamkaran mosque there is a well. According to many Shiite Muslims, out of this well will emerge one day their version of an Islamic 'savior.'

                              They call him the Mahdi or the 12th Imam.

                              Ron Cantrell has written a book about the Mahdi. He explained, "The Mahdi is a personage that is expected to come on the scene, by Islam, as a messiah figure. He is slotted to come in the end of time, according to their writings, very much like how we think of the return of Jesus."

                              Shiite Muslims believe the Mahdi, a descendent of the Prophet Mohammed, vanished in the middle of the 9th century.

                              Cantrell told us, "The 12th Imam disappeared, around the age of 9, with a promise that he would return and he would bring Islam to its total fruition as the world's last standing religion."

                              Enter Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Since becoming the president of Iran in August 2005, Ahmadinejad has emerged as the Mahdi's most influential follower.

                              Cantrell said, "[Ahmadinejad] has stated that his mandate is to pave the way for the coming of this Islamic 'messiah'."

                              In almost all his speeches, Ahmadinejad begs Allah to hasten the return of the Mahdi. At a recent military parade attended by CBN News in Tehran, Ahmadinejad said, "Oh, Allah, please facilitate Imam Mahdi's early return and make us one of his supporters."

                              He said something similar last September just before ending a speech at the United Nations in New York.

                              Ahmadinejad said, "Oh mighty Lord, I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository [a reference to the Mahdi], the promised one, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace."

                              A few days later, back home in Iran, Ahmadinejad told a group of religious leaders that during his UN speech, he felt a 'bright light' around him.

                              His reactions were captured on video and later posted on a conservative Iranian website.

                              Ahmadinejad said, "I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn't move an eyelid, I'm not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes to the message of the Islamic Republic."

                              Ahmadinejad is reportedly tied to a radical Islamic society in Iran that believes man can hasten the appearance of the Mahdi by creating chaos in the world.

                              Cantrell explained, "Ahmadinejad has stated that this chaos must take place before the Mahdi can come on the scene."

                              Some wonder if Ahmadinejad believes these are 'the end times,' and whether his calls for the destruction of Israel and nuclear pursuits are ways to accelerate the divine timetable.

                              Cantrell further explained, "With him it is a win-win situation. If we attack him, he wins because chaos happens. If we don't attack him, he gets to create the chaos which he has said he is willing to do and he will do."

                              In Shiite Muslim teaching, the Mahdi's second coming will be marked by apocalyptic times. Wars, famines and floods will ravage the earth and then comes judgment day and a battle between good and evil.

                              As the sun dips behind the mountains that surround Jamkaran, the faithful, many of whom voted for Ahmadinejad, arrive by the thousands from across Iran to pray for the Mahdi's return.

                              Ezatallah Alimoradi, a follower of the Mahdi, said, "I feel so refreshed in my spirit when I come here to Jamkaran."

                              Akram Alsadat Emmami, Follower of Mahdi, said, "This day belongs to the Mahdi and I've come to share my heart with him."

                              The night begins with a visit to the sacred well. CBN News is given a rare opportunity to visit with people praying there. The opening of the well is covered by a green-like metal box to prevent people from jumping in.

                              Most of the time here is spent praying and kissing the metal box. Others scribble prayer requests to the Mahdi on pieces of paper that are then dropped into the well.

                              A man asked the Mahdi to forgive his sins.

                              A man, Follower of Mahdi said, "If you ask in the right way, your prayers will be answered."

                              Another person seeks healing for family members.

                              Emmami explained, "I don't come here just to pray for myself. I also ask the Mahdi to take care of my family and their needs."

                              Many, like this young boy with a flashlight, believe the Mahdi is actually hiding at the bottom of the well reading those prayer requests.

                              Abbas Rezaie, Follower of Mahdi, told us, "I was looking into the well with my flashlight hoping to see the Mahdi. But not to tonight."

                              Shia tradition teaches that if you come to Jamkaran 40 weeks in a row, you will "see" the Mahdi.

                              A Woman who did not give her name said, "I have not had the privilege to see him yet, but I've had many dreams about him. In one of my dreams I saw a big bright light in the sky and this figure standing over me."

                              The next few hours are spent praying inside the Jamkaran mosque.

                              I stood at the entrance to the Jamkaran mosque; and I've been told that as a non-Muslim I am not allowed to go inside the mosque. The truth is every day, tens of thousands of men and women come through this mosque to say their prayers but also to pray that one day soon the Mahdi would return."

                              Nedal said, "And because we believe that he is going to come back soon we can believe in heaven and hell and we can believe in the life after death."

                              Ahmadinejad's government reportedly gave $20 million to help renovate the Jamkaran mosque. There are rumors that he's planning to build a railway line connecting Tehran and Jamkaran, to ferry the faithful.

                              And apparently Ahmadinejad has also drawn up the plans for the road the Mahdi will take when he returns.

                              Cantrell said, "...that will actually serve as the red carpet rolled out in Iran for the Mahdi to appear."

                              And if all this wasn't mystical enough, there's also the belief that when the Mahdi comes back, he will be accompanied by Jesus Christ.

                              Cantrell further explained, "The Mahdi will take Jesus to Mecca, they will circum-ambulate the Kabah together. The Mahdi will teach Jesus to pray; at which time Jesus will then replace the Gospel with the Koran, and then all of us Christians, wherever you are on the face of the earth, will convert to Islam because Islam will be deemed the one lasting pure religion."

                              As the West drifts closer to a potential showdown over Iran's nuclear program, followers of the Mahdi are getting ready for judgment day.

                              And many of them are convinced that President Ahmadinjead will fulfill his divine mission to prepare the world for the coming of the Islamic 'savior.'

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