European Migrant Crisis

[George S.]

The greeks didn't give them even a cup of water simply pushed them over their border.So much inhospitality is shown by Greece they don't care for anyone except themselves.

[Amphipolis]

The greeks didn't give them even a cup of water simply pushed them over their border.

That is a damn lie.

[Amphipolis]

As I already said they are not shipped to Thessaloniki (or the borders) even though they thought doing it for a moment. They are shipped from the islands to Athens and then they reach the borders through various ways (trains, buses, walking).

Yesterday, some were shipped to Kavala for the first time. They mostly took buses to Thessaloniki and then (I guess) other buses to the borders.

[Nikolaj]

Yesterday, some were shipped to Kavala for the first time. They mostly took buses to Thessaloniki and then (I guess) other buses to the borders.

They're wanting to unite with their middle eastern ancestors, I mean want to join the pure Greek bandwagon, how cute.

[DedoAleko]

Some claim this story is a spin.

This activist from the border for example says this:

Milica Skarik:" First I saw this video on a croation online news, than it spread on serbian online news, and later on macedonian reporter.mk. The video doesn't show the whole context, but has a purpose to create hate towards the refugees. Here is the whole context: the refugees are protesting while they are blocked from the police cordon. They want to move further, but the police has an order not to let them go (it was the time when Macedonia closed the border for few hours). So, refugees are protesting because they are blocked at the border zone, they don't want to be treated as animals in a Zoo while being imprisoned and given food. They want to move further. It has nothing to do with the red cross on the cover. Red cross is delivering help on a daily basis for months, and not a single refugee has refused a help. I wrote yesterday a mail to the Red cross about this and am waiting today if they will make an official statement to the media."

Source is Help the migrants in Macedonia facebook page.

[DraganOfStip]

There are reports out of Italy that these migrants are protesting for better food, better housing and even cellphones, yes mobile phones.

The thing that the mass media seems to be missing is that most of the "poor" migrants are not poor at all. The poor people either went to Jordan, and other neighboring countries by foot, or are still stuck in a war zone. The cold fact is that making your way out of war torn Syria, all the way to Germany, is not cheap, it takes thousands of dollars, smugglers, and sophisticated means. You dont just walk from Syria to Germany. Most of these people are well off, and are using this opportunity to get a better life in Europe, which I get. The media is not being honest about this one (big shocker).

Best reply to that:

[Gocka]

What makes these migrants think that they have free reign to cross any border at will? Where this sense of entitlement come from? Even if they are genuinely fleeing war, they have to understand that there are certain protocols that must be followed for our and even their own good. Every country has the right to defend their borders, to know who comes in and who goes out. Otherwise you are opening yourself up to all sorts of problems. There have already been several deaths across Macedonia because of migrants traveling dangerous routes. The Macedonian government only wanted to bring some order and safety to the process and transport them to the northern border. How this ends up getting spun that Macedonia is doing something inhumane or sinister is mind boggling. Western Europe is in for it when they end up with a couple million of these refugees, and I'm glad because they were complicit in causing this chaos.

[DedoAleko]

Angela Merkel calls on EU to help Western Balkans face migrant influx

The German Chancellor said the EU must pitch in to help countries such as Serbia and Macedonia to tackle migrant crisis

The EU must act swiftly to help Western Balkan countries who are facing a massive influx of Europe-bound migrants, Angela Merkel has warned.

German chancellor said European leaders must pitch in to tackle the "huge challenges" being faced by countries such as Macedonia and Serbia.

“We have more refugees in the world than at any time since the Second World War,” she said at a summit in Vienna. “The world’s eyes are upon us.”

Mrs Merkel was speaking at an annual EU-Balkans summit which was supposed to focus on relations between the bloc and candidate countries in the region.

But it was dominated by the migrant crisis, as Serbian and Macedonian delegates told European leaders bluntly it was down to them to find an answer to the thousands of asylum-seekers currently streaming across the region towards EU borders.

“It’s a European Union problem, but we’re expected to come up with an action plan,” Ivica Dacic, the Serbian foreign minister said.

“I have to be very direct here, please understand. We bear the brunt of the burden.”

The EU has pledged €1.5m (£1.1m) to help Serbia and Macedonia, but Mr Dacic said the money would not be enough.

"When do you plan to establish controls and prevent migrants going to Serbia and Macedonia?” he said.

“Unless we have a European answer to this crisis, no one should be under any illusion it will be solved,” Nikola Poposki, the Macedonian foreign minister, said.

Mrs Merkel noted that the transit countries were already facing economic difficulties which were compounded by the migrant crisis.

"As future members of the European Union, it is our responsibility to ease their problems," she told a news conference.

Austria floated elements of a five-point plan that includes establishing safe havens in migrants’ home countries where their applications for asylum in the EU could be processed – possibly protected by UN troops.
The plan also calls for quotas for migrants to be shared more evenly between EU member states – an idea Britain has rejected.

Sebastian Kurz, the Austrian foreign minister, warned ahead of the talks that his country would consider imposing “much tighter border controls” if the EU does not come up with a response.

“The question arises whether trust in Europe will collapse, whether we can solve this problem together,” Werner Faymann, the Austrian chancellor, told the summit.

“That’s the wrong path. Every country will then try to build walls with watchtowers.”

izvor: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nt-influx.html

[Gocka]

I think this problem has more potential to drive a wedge between EU members than the Greek crisis. There are many EU countries that are apposed to taking in large amounts of Muslim migrants, and understandably so. Look at the problems we have with Albanians in Macedonia. Many Europeans are afraid of the islamization of large parts of their countries. I'm glad, firstly because they helped cause this mess and secondly because I want them to get a taste of what we have to deal with, and let see how open and understanding they are then. There are already large protests in Germany against migrants, and they haven't even begun taking them in and giving them asylum.


Finally, what the hell is taking the world so long to take action against ISIL? The west has attacked a dozen countries over the years, and yet they cant bring themselves to attack and dismantle a rouge psychopathic group of terrorists holding a territory the size of the Balkans? I thought US policy was to go after terrorists, well ISIL are the very definition of terrorists. I smell something fishy.

Angela Merkel calls on EU to help Western Balkans face migrant influx

The German Chancellor said the EU must pitch in to help countries such as Serbia and Macedonia to tackle migrant crisis

The EU must act swiftly to help Western Balkan countries who are facing a massive influx of Europe-bound migrants, Angela Merkel has warned.

German chancellor said European leaders must pitch in to tackle the "huge challenges" being faced by countries such as Macedonia and Serbia.

“We have more refugees in the world than at any time since the Second World War,” she said at a summit in Vienna. “The world’s eyes are upon us.”

Mrs Merkel was speaking at an annual EU-Balkans summit which was supposed to focus on relations between the bloc and candidate countries in the region.

But it was dominated by the migrant crisis, as Serbian and Macedonian delegates told European leaders bluntly it was down to them to find an answer to the thousands of asylum-seekers currently streaming across the region towards EU borders.

“It’s a European Union problem, but we’re expected to come up with an action plan,” Ivica Dacic, the Serbian foreign minister said.

“I have to be very direct here, please understand. We bear the brunt of the burden.”

The EU has pledged €1.5m (£1.1m) to help Serbia and Macedonia, but Mr Dacic said the money would not be enough.

"When do you plan to establish controls and prevent migrants going to Serbia and Macedonia?” he said.

“Unless we have a European answer to this crisis, no one should be under any illusion it will be solved,” Nikola Poposki, the Macedonian foreign minister, said.

Mrs Merkel noted that the transit countries were already facing economic difficulties which were compounded by the migrant crisis.

"As future members of the European Union, it is our responsibility to ease their problems," she told a news conference.

Austria floated elements of a five-point plan that includes establishing safe havens in migrants’ home countries where their applications for asylum in the EU could be processed – possibly protected by UN troops.
The plan also calls for quotas for migrants to be shared more evenly between EU member states – an idea Britain has rejected.

Sebastian Kurz, the Austrian foreign minister, warned ahead of the talks that his country would consider imposing “much tighter border controls” if the EU does not come up with a response.

“The question arises whether trust in Europe will collapse, whether we can solve this problem together,” Werner Faymann, the Austrian chancellor, told the summit.

“That’s the wrong path. Every country will then try to build walls with watchtowers.”

izvor: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...nt-influx.html

[George S.]

There is not a thing they can do to stop the wave of immigrants.

[DraganOfStip]

A Russian news crew visited Serbia and Hungary to do an article on the refugee crisis by interviewing them.
Pay attention to what migrants replied when they asked them why don't they seek asylum in Greece,Macedonia or Serbia instead of the Western European countries:

Because these are poor countries.

The news crew only confirmed what was suspected all along: these are not ordinary people fleeing from war and misery, most of them are well statuted (or at least middle class) citizens that use the migrant flow for economic reasons.

http://mkd-news.com/emigrant-ahmed-namesto-tsrkvi-vo-evropa-ke-ima-minarina-toa-ke-bide-nashata-osveta/

[George S.]

They arenjtb that refugee types fleeing war zones.They seem to be a peple seeking better opportunities and a better life.THe Balkan countries are not those opportunities.

[DraganOfStip]

A Russian news crew visited Serbia and Hungary to do an article on the refugee crisis by interviewing them.
Pay attention to what migrants replied when they asked them why don't they seek asylum in Greece,Macedonia or Serbia instead of the Western European countries:

Quote:
Because these are poor countries.

The news crew only confirmed what was suspected all along: these are not ordinary people fleeing from war and misery, most of them are well statuted (or at least middle class) citizens that use the migrant flow for economic reasons.

http://mkd-news.com/emigrant-ahmed-n...ashata-osveta/

The same reporter upon returning to Russia stated that when she came to the refugee camp in Belgrade to make the interviews for the article,she was confronted by a group of men who were angry because she had entered the camp without covering her face (like muslim women around the world do).To that she replied:

Do you know that this is Belgrade,the capital of an Orthodox Christian country?
And do you know that women don't cover their faces here?
How long have you been here,3 days and you're already setting your own rules?
This is NOT your country.

Amen,woman.

[George S.]

They are simply country shopping .Takre that child that drowned.His father left Syria 3 years ago and lived in turkey.On the boat they weren't even wearing vests.They don't want small poor countries they want the richer countries like Germany or Austria.There may be members of isil even.Some of these people are not escaping anything except poverty as they are nothing but economic refuges.They aren't going to be missed home.
Some are saying why are we permitting them in our homes why don't we help them with arms and send themback to sria as there are a lot of abled men around.

[DedoAleko]

look at this one:

Hungary seizes train with migrants from Croatia aboard, 'disarms 40 police, arrests driver''

Hungary has intercepted a train carrying migrants traveling from Croatia, Reuters reports citing the Hungarian Disaster unit. At least 40 Croatian police were reportedly disarmed in the operation while the train driver is said to have been arrested.

DETAILS TO FOLLOW

izvor: http://www.rt.com/news/315906-hungar...rest-migrants/