Greek Fall Elections

[Makedonetz]

What do you think the rainbow party will fair this fall. Hopefully the consensus comes out and show the support and unity in egej.

[Risto the Great]

There is no unity in Greek occupied Macedonia. They are victims of ethnocide and many barely care nowadays. The change in economic circumstances might contribute to some more votes but more about their plight needs to be understood by them.

[thessalo-niki]

The Rainbow Party seems to be in a dead end. They're very few, so when they're asking for people's vote, the results work as the best argument against them. Even locally they're very few (about <4% in Florina district).
To make things worse, according to the new law (Kallikratis project) all Cities (Dimos) that elect a Mayor are extended areas with a population of at least 10-20,000 people. I think Florina district will only have 3 Cities.
I may be wrong but I have searched enough and there's nothing moving. It seems that Rainbow Party does not even have candidate Mayors anywhere (not to mention a candidate peripheriarch for Western Macedonia).
Still, I could be wrong, so I'm expecting more input (from Vodenka maybe)? Elections are in 7 weeks from now.
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

I may be wrong but I have searched enough and there's nothing moving.

Wikipedia really helps you with information

The Rainbow Party seems to be in a dead end. They're very few, so when they're asking for people's vote, the results work as the best argument against them.

greece doesn't want to show the real number of members. Also greece will never show the exact number of Macedonians.

Why don't you tell your government and your nazi people to stop threatening Macedonians? some human rights would be appreciated.

[thessalo-niki]

greece doesn't want to show the real number of members. Also greece will never show the exact number of Macedonians.
Why don't you tell your government and your nazi people to stop threatening Macedonians? some human rights would be appreciated.

According to this 2008 interview (an interesting one) of Pavle Philipov Voskopoulos, the Rainbow Party has 250 members.

http://www.florina.org/news/2008/september24_g.asp

In 2004 & 2009 European elections they took 5-6,000 votes (0,1%)
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Soldier of Macedon]

How much votes does the Hellenic pagan party get in Greece?

[thessalo-niki]

How much votes does the Hellenic pagan party get in Greece?

You probably refer to a party called Olympism (one-man party of George Zois). It was active in the early 90s (it took 800 to 3200 votes). I wouldn't call them pagan though.
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[johnMKD]

It is true that Rainbow party in Greece doesn't get a lot of votes. I think that they have been "hit" by the Greek regime so hard, that it would be impossible to recover.
Just a reminder, in the last elections of 2009, the Green Party openly declared that Macedonians exist (etc etc) and they got a quite large percentage of the votes, irrespectively of the large war they were confronted (by the media) for doing so.

[vodenka]

I have no information about Rainbow party political position for the next elections in Greece. I assume they will publish something onthe next Nova Zora newspaper.
My oppinion is that the Macedonians should boycott next local elections. I am saying this, because the parties who support the candidates for mayors and counselors are the same Pasok, Nea Dimokratia and the Left wing parties who do not recognize Macedonians any rights as a national minority in Greece. They are using the same old trick, as usual, by putting in their lists some Macedonians but they are or very wick people who have no guts to ask for something, or too interested in doing their own business or even grkomans! The greek parties are doing this so they actually can "steal" the votes of Macedonians by letting them hope that if they get to elect some Macedonian guy, it will be a great thing! We have done this before (to vote for someone just because he/she was Macedonian) and immediatelly the day after they were elected, they declared more greeks than the greeks and never mentioned they are Macedonians.
So, why should Macedonians bother to vote in a society that is so racist and undemocratic? And why should we help greeks play their games with us?
The only party who is participating to the elections that has a democratic view about all minorities is the Eco-greens. If their candidate for the Central Macedonia prefecture keeps his ideology about these issue, Macedonians could vote for him. But I am not so sure on their position, yet, about our prefecture.

[Makedonetz]

Vodenka thanks for the explanation, cleary its a fucking dictatorship down there, i hope the normal citizans who are greek boycott in the next elections seeing how corrupt greece really is.

[thessalo-niki]

It is true that Rainbow party in Greece doesn't get a lot of votes. I think that they have been "hit" by the Greek regime so hard, that it would be impossible to recover.
Just a reminder, in the last elections of 2009, the Green Party openly declared that Macedonians exist (etc etc) and they got a quite large percentage of the votes, irrespectively of the large war they were confronted (by the media) for doing so.

Rainbow party: Well, would YOU vote someone who introduced as having non-Greek conscience? And if so, how many Greeks would?
Eco-Greens: They took slightly less than 3%, but it seems the above story cost them hard. Tremopoulos himself, is now a candidate peripheriarch in Central Macedonia. I expect he will get about 4-5% and it’s an overall good candidacy. If Edessa is in Central Macedonia, Vodenka, maybe you should vote for him. (I haven't decided yet).
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[George S.]

if the elections are run openly & without interference maybe they could get more votes.Also has there been a proper census done of the actual number of macedonians.??

[vodenka]

Eco-greens gain a lot in votes because of Tremopoulos and his statements (pro-Macedonian and pro-Turkish): is it by chance that he managed to be elected everytime he ran on elections (Solun Prefecture, as counselor and EU parliament)? I do not think so! Other Eco-greens candidates with more nationalistic views are not so "lucky" at elections!!!! I may vote for Tremopoulos!

[vodenka]

if the elections are run openly & without interference maybe they could get more votes.Also has there been a proper census done of the actual number of macedonians.??

NEVER! In Greece there never have been a census to count the Macedonian population, not even as a linguistic comunity.

[thessalo-niki]

if the elections are run openly & without interference maybe they could get more votes.

They are. How do you mean?

Also has there been a proper census done of the actual number of Macedonians.??

Censuses are performed every 10 year. In the last ones (1991, 2001) Macedonians were 2,2 and 2,4 millions respectively. Next one is in 2011.

NEVER! In Greece there never have been a census to count the Macedonian population, not even as a linguistic community.

I'm afraid they're not a linguistic community anymore. Yet, you can count them as a political entity (in elections).
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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul