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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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This is a disappointing topic. Not because of the subject. But because it's so plain and obvious that there are divisions in the Macedonian community as a whole and we can't find one common ground to work on. All this energy devoted to knocking certain groups and individuals when we should be asking the most basic questions;
1) Why is it that Macedonians in the diaspora are not so active?
2) How is it that we can get them active?
Debating and questioning is healthy. But how healthy is our diaspora as a whole?Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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TM,
One way I got some Macedonians interested in tacking part in or supporting Macedonian activities was by inviting them along to A Name Is A Name last night here in Melbourne. Some of them are now considering coming along to the AMHRC Annual Dinner and becoming financial members.
Seems we tend to knock the few who have done things in the past differently to the way we would conduct them in the present.
What common uniting factor do we all possess?From the village of Ppezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"
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Originally posted by Mikail View PostTM,
One way I got some Macedonians interested in tacking part in or supporting Macedonian activities was by inviting them along to A Name Is A Name last night here in Melbourne. Some of them are now considering coming along to the AMHRC Annual Dinner and becoming financial members.
Seems we tend to knock the few who have done things in the past differently to the way we would conduct them in the present.
What common uniting factor do we all possess?Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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Evading specific contentious issues with generalizations does not bring about unity. Even if it did, it would be a false unity. What use is unity if we don't know exactly what we are united about? Yugoslavia and the Socialist Republic of Macedonia were a perfect example of how far false unity and sweeping substantive differences and disagreements under the carpet can get us. Who wants to learn from the old lessons? Who wants to repeat the old mistakes?All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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Originally posted by aleksandrov View PostEvading specific contentious issues with generalizations does not bring about unity. Even if it did, it would be a false unity. What use is unity if we don't know exactly what we are united about? Yugoslavia and the Socialist Republic of Macedonia were a perfect example of how far false unity and sweeping substantive differences and disagreements under the carpet can get us. Who wants to learn from the old lessons? Who wants to repeat the old mistakes?Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
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Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View PostThen what mistakes are Macedonians in the diaspora making by not being pro-active for Macedonia? How can we amend this? What can be done to rectify this one fact that we haven't really discussed on MTO? Should I start a new topic for this question?
Business-style marketing, with shallow, self-deluding, feel-good statements is hardly a solid motivator for people OF SUBSTANCE to sacrifice time and resources to the apparent cause that is being marketed.
A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history. - Mohandas GandhiAll truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
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United Macedonian Diaspora
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UMD, Spolaj TiМАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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Prolet: UMD, Spolaj Ti
Site znaeme deka na Bugarite/Bugaromanite, kako i na Grcite/Grkomanite i na Srbite/Srbomanite Makedonija im e "vo srceto"!
Dali znaeme deka MAKEDONSTVOTO im e vo srceto i kakvo e toa i so kakvi koreni im e? Slobodno citiraj nekoj pishan dokaz ili izvadok!
Jas znam deka i pokojniot MPO-Ovec (BUGAROMAN SO TAPIJA) - "Tasho" Alusheff isto taka ja imashe "Makedonia na sertse" ama drugo misleshe za Makedoncite i nashiot etnost, kulturno-istorisko nasledstvo i identitet!
"So pushka na raka i Makedonia na sertse!"
Pozdrav do site Makedonski
ot Tasho Alusheff,
Macedonian forever, greek NEVER!Last edited by indigen; 06-09-2010, 12:35 AM.
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Originally posted by indigen View PostZa shto im ze zablagodaruvash, bre P?
Site znaeme deka na Bugarite/Bugaromanite, kako i na Grcite/Grkomanite i na Srbite/Srbomanite Makedonija im e "vo srceto"!
Dali zanaeme deka MAKEDONSTVOTO im e vo srceto i kavo e toa i so kakvi koreni im e? Slobodno citiraj nekoj pishan dokaz ili izvadok!
Jas znam deka i pokojniot MPO-Ovec (BUGAROMAN SO TAPIJA) - "Tasho" Alusheff isto taka ja imashe "Makedonia na sertse" ama drugo misleshe za Makedoncite i nashiot etnost, kulturno-istorisko nasledstvo i identitet!
A za Jon Bitov, nema da najdis pogolem patriot Makedonski... tolku znaes!
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Originally posted by mvb9999 View PostVo nasata kultura, ne se plukja na umrenite - bidite umni, i ostajgo G-din Alusheff sega.
A za Jon Bitov, nema da najdis pogolem patriot Makedonski... tolku znaes!
Alusheff kje bide spomnuvan (od mene) sekogash koga kje ima nameri da im se nametne na Makedoncite segashniot pretsedatel na MPO kako "makedonska" patriotka i MPOto kako "makedonska" organizacija. A toa go pravi ili pravea Meto i UMDovci!Last edited by indigen; 06-09-2010, 12:34 AM.
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