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  • fatso
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 301

    I never said Syriza was the first party only in Athens.

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    • Philosopher
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1003

      Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
      So, you're probably in USA, Canada, Australia or another planet. Tsipras is NOT a communist or a radical leftist (besides the name of his party which seems to cause a common misunderstanding). This party belongs to Democratic Left, it is pro-European Union, pro-Euro Currency and is less radical than what Andreas Papandreou was when he became Prime Minister in 1981.
      Well, he is a former communist, and one of his son's middle name is named from a Marxist revolutionary.

      His wife is considered more radical than himself.

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      • fatso
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 301

        You are correct Philosopher.

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          Originally posted by Volokin View Post
          http://www.focus-fen.net/news/2015/0...e-dispute.html

          So that's that.

          But it is a time of change ahead for Greece and I do hope it brings something new to Macedonian debate.

          If they do happen to leave the Eurozone and return to their own currency it will be an interesting experiment which could effect the zone's integrity as a whole, and I personally don't care it they succeed or fail.
          Greek political parties appear to be the same box of shit, just labelled differently...

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          • Amphipolis
            Banned
            • Aug 2014
            • 1328

            Originally posted by Philosopher View Post
            Well, he is a former communist, and one of his son's middle name is named from a Marxist revolutionary.
            I will consider this as American anti-communist hysteria and total inability to understand European politics.

            Originally posted by Philosopher View Post
            His wife is considered more radical than himself.
            Is she? She never had a political presence.

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            • Philosopher
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1003

              Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
              I will consider this as American anti-communist hysteria and total inability to understand European politics.
              The statement is a statement of fact, and it bears no relationship to American anti-communist hysteria and a total inability to understand European politics.

              Originally posted by Amphipolis
              Is she? She never had a political presence.
              Having "radical" political views is not dependent on political presence.

              According to this article, his wife is the engine behind the man.

              Betty Batziana has been Alexis Tsipras' partner for more than 20 years and urged the sporty, middle-class future PM into hard-left student politics, helping him join the Communist Youth of Greece in 1990.


              You're Greek and maybe you know better.

              For the record, I am not against Tsipras or SYRIZA.

              The Greek people voted for Tsipras and his party and that is what they got.
              Last edited by Philosopher; 01-29-2015, 04:17 PM.

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              • DedoAleko
                Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 969

                This text is from the 23rd,just before the elections, but it showed up today on Kanal 5.

                google translate:


                Not Fyrom but Macedonia, the Commission "slides" on the name of the country

                Two days after the elections in greece, where it will not be seen calmly, an error "distraction" brings the EU executive to identify the health minister of Skopje as "Macedonia" instead of "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia"

                The European Commission recognizes the Republic of Macedonia as Macedonia ending a dispute that has dragged on the name almost always, from when Yugoslavia dissolved giving birth to many state entities separate and distinct.

                What's going on in Brussels? Nothing, just simple oversights result of distractions, but they will not please the greeks, and two days before the election is not even the chin more painless. The question of the name of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is one of those endless story: Macedonians former Yugoslavia claim to be in Macedonia since the early nineties, when they declared independence. The EU, however, recognizes it as the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM or, from the acronym), and greece - jealous of their region of Macedonia - this does not compromise, so much so that the negotiations on the accession of FYROM EU has stalled because of the name issue.

                Well, according to the appointment book issued by the Commission next week, Tuesday, Commissioner for Health and Food Safety, Vytenis Andriukaitis, "will receive the Health Minister of Macedonia, Nikola Todorov," and Nikola Todorov is minister of the region greek Macedonia, but just the Balkan state at the center of the dispute over the name. A mistake that, on the eve of the vote in greece, is likely to be costly.

                izvor: http://www.eunews.it/2015/01/23/non-...el-paese/29015

                It is simply disgusting how they use us/Macedonia for their political games.

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                • Amphipolis
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 1328

                  Tsipras, the wrong-way driver.

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                  • Amphipolis
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1328

                    Our new Finance Minister.

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                    • Poligiros
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 121

                      Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
                      Very impressive. He has a PhD and uses educated responses and sound economic logic to his reasoning. He made the BBC reporter seem moronic with his honest style. Maybe Tsipras can delegate policy to the more educated and talented in his cabinet such as this guy!

                      My opinion of Syriza is changing, but we need to see how things pan out in the next few months before we can make an informed opinion.

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                      • George S.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10116

                        who cares about education credentials when they don't agree on sound austerity measures.They honestly beleive the 350 billion should be reduced drastically.Yes pigs can fly,
                        If grecce carries on like a drunken sailor then the door might be shown as regards eu membershiop and lose a lot of assets especially the aegean.I'm not surprised.The germans are wakening up to the bailouts.
                        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                        GOTSE DELCEV

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                        • Amphipolis
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 1328

                          Originally posted by Philosopher
                          Hello,

                          So what is it like on the ground in Greece (politically speaking)? Can you sense a change in optimism in the country about the elections?
                          Optimism has partly vaporised. There is anxiety on what will happen (it feels like a war) and there's certainly anger and extreme anti-EU sentiment (especially anti-German). There are some words of respect or compassion (from several international actors) but everybody sends a clear message we should retreat (which I don’t see happening).

                          At least Varoufakis is indeed unexpectedly charming and politically flexible (for an amateur).

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                          • Philosopher
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1003

                            Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
                            Optimism has partly vaporised. There is anxiety on what will happen (it feels like a war) and there's certainly anger and extreme anti-EU sentiment (especially anti-German). There are some words of respect or compassion (from several international actors) but everybody sends a clear message we should retreat (which I don’t see happening).
                            Why so?

                            What are the reasons for partly vaporized optimism?

                            Have people lost faith in the EU or the new Greek government?

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                            • George S.
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10116

                              Isnt it opening doors to the nazi type of govt.????
                              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                              GOTSE DELCEV

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                              • DedoAleko
                                Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 969

                                greece has 'moral obligation' to claim German WWII reparations: PM

                                Athens (AFP) - greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras said Sunday the country had a "moral obligation" to claim reparations from Germany for the damages wrought by the Nazis during World War II.

                                greece had "a moral obligation to our people, to history, to all European peoples who fought and gave their blood against Nazism," he said in a key address to parliament.

                                Berlin has already sounded a firm "no" to requests for reparations nearly 70 years after the end of the war, but Tsipras and his radical left party have vowed to tackle the issue.

                                "Our historical obligation is to claim the occupation loan and reparations," the new PM said, referring to Germany's four-year occupation of greece and a war-time loan which the Third Reich forced the greek central bank to give it which ruined the country financially.

                                Tsipras's anti-austerity Syriza party claims Germany owes it around 162 billion euros ($183 billion) -- or around half the country's public debt, which stands at over 315 billion euros.

                                The issue risks aggravating already strained ties between Athens and Berlin, as Tsipras bids to reverse austerity measures imposed by its international creditors.

                                The Nazi regime ended up bleeding greece dry. The loan to the Third Reich was for 476 million Reichsmarks, which was valued at $8.25 billion in a 2012 German Bundestag lower house of parliament report.

                                izvor: http://news.yahoo.com/greece-moral-o...dUcTUA4WzQtDMD

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