Financial Crisis in Greece

[momce]

eric you didnt come here in goodwill you came here to provoke macedonians

[momce]

im sure you will give some sob story about the asia minor catastrophe while brushing aside the crime and policies(ethnocide, depopulation, economic looting of macedonia, forced migration) of the modern greece fascist church state

[Niko777]

Greek schools 'fertile ground for neo-Nazis'


By Catherine Boitard (AFP)
ATHENS — Schools in crisis-hit Greece are proving fertile ground for Golden Dawn, the neo-Nazi group suspected of orchestrating attacks on migrants whose popularity is on the rise, anti-racism activists warn.
Once a secretive group on the fringe of Greek politics, Golden Dawn picked up over 400,000 votes in a June election dominated by anti-austerity anger.
Capitalising on popular anger with the perceived decades-old corruption of mainstream parties, the group elected 18 lawmakers in the 300-seat Greek parliament and is now the party of choice for one in 10 Greeks, polls show.
Still thin on numbers, Golden Dawn now seeks to spread the word to the next generation.
In November, a brawl broke out between Albanian and Greek high school pupils on the island of Crete over a Golden Dawn event advertised on Facebook, sending two of them to hospital.
A fight had previously broken out at the same school over neo-Nazi slogans found on a blackboard.
In various schools "there are organised gangs harassing foreign pupils and their parents, verbally so far but with an intensity that could at any minute turn into physical violence", said Nicodemos Maina Kinyua, the 35-year-old editor of Athens-based African magazine Asante.
The Kenyan-born journalist, who has lived in Greece since childhood, says the country's education system offers "fertile ground" for neo-Nazi influence.
"The dominant concept in school is that Greeks invented everything at the time when the rest of humanity was perched on trees, eating acorns," he said.
Golden Dawn has taken a strong hand in enforcing the teaching of "accurate" history in schools.
The group denies that students were killed by security forces inside the Athens Polytechnic in 1973, a seminal event considered to have hastened the downfall of the army dictatorship then ruling the country.
And its leader Nikos Michaloliakos has publicly complained that Greek media are ruled by a "Red junta".
During a recent school visit to parliament, one Golden Dawn deputy openly told pupils to resist the "terrorism" of the Left.
School authorities were already forced into action last month to halt the transfer of a maternity school teacher on the island of Lefkada, demanded by Golden Dawn after she decorated the classroom with both Greek and Albanian flags -- in deference to her Albanian pupils -- ahead of a Greek national holiday.
And a disciplinary procedure was opened in Athens against a high school principal who threatened to call in Golden Dawn to chastise his pupils.
"This threat is very much in fashion," admits a high school teacher who was recently insulted by three of her pupils for her left-wing sympathies.
"What is worse is that two-thirds of my colleagues saw this incident as a justifiable dispute over politics," she said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Another teacher, Artemis Kalogyri, said it was a constant struggle to keep neo-Nazi arguments and behaviour outside the high school in the working class Athens district of Kallithea where she teaches literature.
"Teens are being recruited, particularly those from poor families, and receive a training in theory and paramilitary tactics so that Golden Dawn can pass on the flame," Kalogyri told a recent anti-racist gathering.
"Most of these youths want to change the world. They see the far-right as the guarantor of Hellenism against the threat of dissolution in which migrants are involved. Most of them want to join the police or the army," she said.
Deputy education minister Theodoros Papatheodorou said the country must act "without delay".
"There are sporadic attempts to penetrate schools and intimidate professors and pupils. It emanates either from parents who claim to be Golden Dawn members or from fully-fledged Golden Dawn cadres," he told AFP.

[George S.]

the greeks have allways run their country a little different to the others.If you could call it country.Never satisfied of who they are they are allways wanting more.

[momce]

they have a complex

[Coolski]

The monster that Germany helped to create has now matured to the point at which Germany was post WWI. Who will their Hitleropoulos be?

[momce]

true hopefully it will die off like a cancerous growth

[makedonche]

true hopefully it will die off like a cancerous growth

.....or be surgically removed from the EU like the cancer it really is!

[EricTheRed]

Who is the one NOT showing good will again? Keep dreaming folks......thats all you can do.

We all saw how the EU foreign ministers treated Macedonia, again, at their summit. They didnt even talk about the country.

And Phoenix, Macedonia is not just relatively insignificant compared to Greece. Its like comparing the Greek economy with the Japanese or German one(size wise, Greece=16 times the economy of Macedonia, Germany= 12 times the sizes of Greece). Macedonia cant even fend off Albanian aggression, and yet Macedonians dream of her expanding at the expense of Greece?

Regarding the article you posted, lets compare Greece with Macedonia again. You'll find out Macedonia ended up becoming Albania's bitch because of ''albanian flags flying in schools, Albanian kids learning Albanian rather than Macedonian etc''. Ofc we arent as naive in Greece. The Albanians have promoted separatism in Serbia, Macedonia and god knows where else. And while I personally disagree with Golden Dawn tactics, I dont want Albanian flags in the Ionian sea or anywhere near Epirus. And for a fucking good reason.

Tolerance like this brought the 2001 events to Macedonia. Btw, regarding stability, Macedonia's civil war ended only 11 years war. Last time a greek city was held by some1 else was during the Civil war, excluding the events in Cyprus(which actually never became greek territory). And you dare talk about stability?

[Daskalot]

Eric you need to keep the lid on everything and everybody, just keep the money flowing because when everyone is in a very sorry state who knows what might happen.
Time to celebrate, you got your money from the EU again.

[momce]

ericthegreekoid youre being an idiot. Your entire theory is based on the notion that Bulgaria and Turkey wont get involved. If they do Aegean Macedonia is virtually defenceless, youre assuming the greece can isolate Macedonia and NATO will help it somehow, NATO wont do jackshit for greece, greece has mostly badly trained conscripts in Aegean Macedonia(its military is badly trained and inefficient, its mobilisation system is a joke, no refresher training to speak of)...prob would have to make the choice of which territory it wants to lose, border regions are virtually undefended(they have 1.5 divisions(quality prob dubious) in North Aegean Macedonia(large parts of which are isolated etc) and maybe another 1.5 divisions between Albanian and Macedonian frontier..greece would have to throw everything it has against Turkey, leaving Illyra and Macedonia defenceless; well Turkey has superiority over greece on all fronts so greece will just have to acquiesece eventually to Turkish domination as they are 10 times more powerful then greece. Turkey has speant the last 20 years metculously gaining superiority over greece on all fronts for its neo-Ottoman policy while greece wasted away...they go into the Aegean at will sometimes sailing outside euboa they invaded Cyprus at will and routed greece they can take islands all over the Aegean Sea, they have 10 times the power greece forces have in Thrace etc. Turks could defeat greece in 3 days, so yes things can be done on other fronts if coordinated properly, if there is a revolt in Aegean it would be organised with other groups and surrounding states. greece in no shape to fight anyone, the wolves are coming back to their homes soon

[Niko777]

Schools in Kostur and Lerin to close down rather than let children freeze this winter...

"Kastoria hasn’t received funds from the central government to warm schools and the mayor said he will close all 53 of them rather than let children freeze, a step already taken in a nearby town."

"Florina schools closed for a day in December because the town didn’t have money to heat them."

Article: Greeks Can't Find Euros to Buy Heating Oil This Winter

[momce]

Thats how that will happen they will start defunding from the peripheries and then gobble up everything into the centre that will show who they consider a citizen and who not so Macedonians need to start organising

[Stojacanec]

Who is the one NOT showing good will again? Keep dreaming folks......thats all you can do.

We all saw how the EU foreign ministers treated Macedonia, again, at their summit. They didnt even talk about the country.

And Phoenix, Macedonia is not just relatively insignificant compared to Greece. Its like comparing the Greek economy with the Japanese or German one(size wise, Greece=16 times the economy of Macedonia, Germany= 12 times the sizes of Greece). Macedonia cant even fend off Albanian aggression, and yet Macedonians dream of her expanding at the expense of Greece?

Regarding the article you posted, lets compare Greece with Macedonia again. You'll find out Macedonia ended up becoming Albania's bitch because of ''albanian flags flying in schools, Albanian kids learning Albanian rather than Macedonian etc''. Ofc we arent as naive in Greece. The Albanians have promoted separatism in Serbia, Macedonia and god knows where else. And while I personally disagree with Golden Dawn tactics, I dont want Albanian flags in the Ionian sea or anywhere near Epirus. And for a fucking good reason.

Tolerance like this brought the 2001 events to Macedonia. Btw, regarding stability, Macedonia's civil war ended only 11 years war. Last time a greek city was held by some1 else was during the Civil war, excluding the events in Cyprus(which actually never became greek territory). And you dare talk about stability?

Don't worry etr greece is Germany’s bitch. You recall your most recent prime minister who wanted a referendum on the austerity measures set by Germany. Within 48 hours he had to rescind on his comments in shame.

That's where you’re at, like the 1.5 mil gypsies perched on the sides of the roads in the 1920s awaiting housing and funds from Europe. Looks like nothing much has changed.

With 85% gdp coming from service sector you would hope places like Crete and Corfu don't achieve what they want and that is their independence from the mainland.

For now just strap yourself in for more austerity.

[Phoenix]

Who is the one NOT showing good will again? Keep dreaming folks......thats all you can do.

We all saw how the EU foreign ministers treated Macedonia, again, at their summit. They didnt even talk about the country.

And Phoenix, Macedonia is not just relatively insignificant compared to Greece. Its like comparing the Greek economy with the Japanese or German one(size wise, Greece=16 times the economy of Macedonia, Germany= 12 times the sizes of Greece). Macedonia cant even fend off Albanian aggression, and yet Macedonians dream of her expanding at the expense of Greece?

Regarding the article you posted, lets compare Greece with Macedonia again. You'll find out Macedonia ended up becoming Albania's bitch because of ''albanian flags flying in schools, Albanian kids learning Albanian rather than Macedonian etc''. Ofc we arent as naive in Greece. The Albanians have promoted separatism in Serbia, Macedonia and god knows where else. And while I personally disagree with Golden Dawn tactics, I dont want Albanian flags in the Ionian sea or anywhere near Epirus. And for a fucking good reason.

Tolerance like this brought the 2001 events to Macedonia. Btw, regarding stability, Macedonia's civil war ended only 11 years war. Last time a greek city was held by some1 else was during the Civil war, excluding the events in Cyprus(which actually never became greek territory). And you dare talk about stability?

Tolerance isn't a bad thing to aspire to, dickhead.
(In)Tolerance was the last reason for the events of 2001 in Macedonia...you have no idea.

The 'stability' that you have enjoyed has nothing to do with the 'greeks' and their passion for intolerance but rather the end result of favourable geopolitics.
Another chapter of geopolitics has conspired (to a great degree) against the Macedonian people, these are big picture events, a vast panorama that continues to unfold, not your peeping tom's view.