Nikola Gruevski

[lavce pelagonski]

Risto the Great, that is true but it would realy only include greece. I would think that it would be better than North. As for what I think only Republic of Macedonia should surfice.

[Risto the Great]

Lavce, you simply have not thought it through to its logical conclusion.

[julie]

Macedonia. Period. No prefixes.
Anything else is treason

[Vangelovski]

Key quote:

Macedonia has been demonstrating that it is ready for a dialogue which would result in a compromise.

Thanks for the clarification Ante.

[Pelister]

Why would Gruevski even risk the extinction of our political existence by putting such a question to the Macedonian people? Why would Gruevski even keep such a possibility alive and in play as I have said before? Hasn't it occured to Gruevski that as a nation we are far, far safer, if the negotiations ended immediately? I mean the nation is on the brink of political extinction - and Gruevski is quite happy and quite prepared to keep it that way; he is even prepared to defer such a question to the Macedonian people. This about how absurd, reckless and irresponsible such a thing would be. If all our other actions that are examples of self-determination currently do not count (and the assumptions Gruevski has made is that they do not), why would a unilateral decision by the Macedonian people count if he took it to a referendum?

[Jankovska]

Gruevski is a moron.

[Bill77]

Gruevski is a moron.

He can't be Greek

[Warrior]

@ Prolet

The fact is that he has succeded the bugarofil premier. He worked with him and at no stage did he denouce LG reign. If he has please enlighten me.

He persists that negotiation should keep on going about the name. What do we have to give or what would you be comfortable to compromise from your end to make Greece satisfied in this talks??? If you were in Grujos shoes???

If you listen to his speech there are some suttle signs that he is not truthful. In regards to the name, its like playing with the devil, eventually you will get burnt. Why does he want to do that? Why is he so persistent about NATO and EU. Racist basket case groups. Its fine to be part of them without any prejudice, but to go through all this crap,is it worth it? By the time they accept Macedonia these organisation will house every country in Europe that is willing to join, and eventually they will let us in. Just walk away now and our time will come. We can work with the Arabs for business, we dont need EU to do business with them. Same goes for India, China, Russia etc. EU is Greece's tool to make us disappear. Its blatantly obvious, but Grujo has taken personal intersts about us being part of EU.
The best thing about his speech is him making fun of Branko and he is spot on on that, Branko would not be able to herd bunch of sheep, without stealing some of them, let alone run an economy and if some of those so called investments are not starting to come in that Gruevski has been promising, the same could be said for him in the future.

I see some partiski people on this forum are getting their nose out of joint, but that is too bad, if something is not right for Macedonia it should be said and not looked over because of party interests.....

@LP, any add on to our name means kissing goodbye our past and the other Macedonian occupied territories. That is at stake, along with the identity. Even if only Greece accpets a modified name for bilateral use with RoM, it will have ramifications to the Maco people in Egejska....Its not on!!

[julie]

Absolutely, that is my belief too, that the repercussions for our people in ALL parts - Egey, Pirin and Mala prespa , will be backwards in regard to their human rights, and also further erodes and weakens our identity in RoM the more these stupid referendums are called and the more negotiations continue and we pander to the ridiculous framework agreement, its all a load of bullshit

STOP NEGOTIATIONS AND STAND TALL, allow foreign investment (wisely) and watch the EU disintegrate and crumble, and eff off to the UN , and Nato, its all American bullshit to destabilise RoM further with their vested interests in arming the shiptari

[Silver]

Buktop, I just gotta say 'very commendable' on your part to come out and admit you were wrong about the EU and it's benefits to Macedonia etc. etc.

I mean, it must have been a very difficult thing for you to accept. You've gotta be devastated considering how many hours, days, weeks and months you've spent on the internet tirelessly discussing your views, arguing, debating & posting links. It's as though your whole life's work over the last two years has been a complete waste of time. One thing's for sure though, you're a trooper!

The 'UMD' is very fortunate to have such a resilient supporter like yourself.

[Prolet]

The EU has fooled alot of people, its only when the recession came in that they started showing their true face.

Buktop has only changed his views on certain aspects and conditions in order to gain EU entry, i was a big EU supporter but i'll be damned if we join that Organization without our dignity we wont have anything left in us.

[Prolet]

Julie, The Socialists are also against any name change

http://www.sitel.com.mk/video/makedonija/spm-ostanuva-na-stavot-za-ustavnoto-ime

[Jankovska]

Prolet we don't think that Grujo is for a name change but he is a compromise. Ne po vrat po sija:d

[Frank]

I see the brute facts continuing a talk fest to what end, a comprimise that doesnt hurt our national interests just how is that to be achieved without the obvious. Or is the Government waiting for an event to springboard the hope we all have and then leave talks.

[lavce pelagonski]

Frank I think you are correct, it is abvius that they are waiting fo0r an opportunity to arise. These days you have to play the politics differently,.