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  • lavce pelagonski
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1993

    Македонците да ги уживаат истите права како Албанците - YouTube
    Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле Страшниот Чакаларов гркоубиец и крвожеден комитаџија.

    Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море. Васил Чакаларов

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      what kind of unity can you have when the albanians want seperatism.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        PM enjoys highest approval rating, says poll




        Vecer, Macedonia: PM enjoys highest approval rating, says poll
        11 March 2013 | 08:23 | FOCUS News Agency
        Home / Southeast Europe and Balkans

        Skopje. Prime Minister of Macedonia and leader of the VMRO-DPMNE party, Nikola Gruevski enjoys the highest approval rating in his country, writes Macedonian Vecer daily, citing results of a recent public opinion survey carried out by the Macedonian Centre for International Cooperation in partnership with the Institute for Democracy.
        28% of the respondents said they place highest trust in the prime minister; 7.7% - in oppositional leader Branko Crvenkovski; 7.5% - in Ali Ahmeti, while 4.3% - in Menduh Thaci.
        Wow, he must be doing something right. Sounds like the UCK terrorist appointment has been well received.

        Alternatively, the one person surveyed was suffering mental retardation.

        Anyone know more about these organisations above highlighted in bold?
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          Shit, I thought the headline was about our hapless Julia...perhaps there's a lesson for her as well, maybe a couple of home grown terrorists on the front bench could be the way forward for the ALP. Something, please anything to save us from Tony Rabbit...

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          • Vangelovski
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 8532

            If by 'Institute for Democracy' focus actually means the National Democratic Institute, then its an American NGO of sorts, but is funded by the US Government. The NDI works with Macedonian NGO's and the Macedonian Government to provide training in democractic practice and theory. Some of what they do is actually ok. Of course, it does more damage than good in that it also promotes the Framework Agreement and its full implementation. It has links with the Democratic Party and is an associate member of the Socialist International.

            I don't know much about the Macedonian Centre for International Cooperation, but I do know they promote the FA.
            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15658

              The Macedonian Centre for International Cooperation:


              MCIC was established in 1993, upon domestic initiatives with support from the Dutch Interchurch Aid (DIA) and the World Council of Churches (WCC). The establishment came in response to the problems arising from Yugoslavia’s break-up, heralding a sign of solidarity in the efforts for peaceful resolution of the problems, fostering of good neighborly relations and cooperation among all people living in Macedonia and promotion of peaceful and fair solutions for the existing differences in the region, in a hope that this is possible.
              Apparently its mandate is to only assist in "multi-ethnic" areas of Macedonia.
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • Phoenix
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4671

                Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                If by 'Institute for Democracy' focus actually means the National Democratic Institute, then its an American NGO of sorts, but is funded by the US Government. The NDI works with Macedonian NGO's and the Macedonian Government to provide training in democractic practice and theory. Some of what they do is actually ok. Of course, it does more damage than good in that it also promotes the Framework Agreement and its full implementation. It has links with the Democratic Party and is an associate member of the Socialist International.

                I don't know much about the Macedonian Centre for International Cooperation, but I do know they promote the FA.
                ...call me a skeptic but it sounds like US imperialism, minus the Chinese oil fields

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                • Vangelovski
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 8532

                  Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                  ...call me a skeptic but it sounds like US imperialism, minus the Chinese oil fields
                  A member of the Socialist International that is also an arm of the evil imperialist American empire...I think that's called an oxymoron.

                  But do I have to ask the same question here again? What exactly is the NDI exploiting (economically) or dominating (politically), or how is it assisting the US Government to do that, that would make it a part of the supposed imperialist machinary of the US?
                  If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                  The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                  • EgejskaMakedonia
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1665

                    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                    ...call me a skeptic but it sounds like US imperialism, minus the Chinese oil fields
                    I was thinking exactly the same thing lol.



                    Tom, you say that this US Government funded organisation promotes the full implementation of the FA in Macedonia, which is obviously detrimental to Macedonia's sovereignty. Now what business does a US Government backed organisation have in Macedonian affairs, other than to promote their own regional political interests? I guess that massive US base in Macedonia was a coincidence as well...nothing to do with an obvious attempt to stamp their authority in the region.

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                    • Vangelovski
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 8532

                      Originally posted by EgejskaMakedonia View Post
                      I was thinking exactly the same thing lol.



                      Tom, you say that this US Government funded organisation promotes the full implementation of the FA in Macedonia, which is obviously detrimental to Macedonia's sovereignty. Now what business does a US Government backed organisation have in Macedonian affairs, other than to promote their own regional political interests? I guess that massive US base in Macedonia was a coincidence as well...nothing to do with an obvious attempt to stamp their authority in the region.
                      What massive US base in Macedonia?

                      EM, seeing as you know so much, maybe you can explain to us what America's regional political interests are in the Balkans?
                      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                      • Phoenix
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4671

                        Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                        What massive US base in Macedonia?
                        The new Balkans CIA base, or as the imperialists would prefer, the new US Embassy in Skopje.

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                        • Vangelovski
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 8532

                          Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                          The new Balkans CIA base, or as the imperialists would prefer, the new US Embassy in Skopje.
                          How do you know its an actual CIA base as opposed to just an Embassy hosting CIA agents (like any other Embassy in the world, which all host intelligence officers)?

                          The Macedonian Embassy in Canberra has a resident UDBash - does that mean Macedonia is wielding its imperialist power in Australia?
                          If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                          The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                          • Phoenix
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4671

                            Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                            How do you know its an actual CIA base as opposed to just an Embassy hosting CIA agents (like any other Embassy in the world, which all host intelligence officers)?
                            How about an Embassy hosting shitloads of CIA goons...?

                            Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                            The Macedonian Embassy in Canberra has a resident UDBash - does that mean Macedonia is wielding its imperialist power in Australia?
                            No it doesn't.
                            Macedonia couldn't afford or organize a BYO BBQ in the embassy grounds, let alone project or weild anything of influence.

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                            • George S.
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10116

                              thought the title was about julia.
                              Macedonians so readily give gruevski their tick of approval.They are so easily deceived & led by the noose.Has Macedonia got any self respect or sovereignity left to be really an imperialist.What has macedonia learned to be even considered as an imperialist.??If macedonia knew how to lobby properly more intensely like their greek or bulgarian counterparts??A bbq will achieve a fat stomach,yes virginia we are still stuck with the fyrom name.Thhanks to the likes of gruevski & the others who are of the same ilk.
                              Fyrom was mean't to be a temporary name more like a long dream?
                              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                              GOTSE DELCEV

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