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  • Makedonska_Kafana
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2642

    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    Not sure I understand the question mate, can you elaborate further? Sam Vaknin isn't worth the time people have wasted on him.
    If, you don't listen what can we expect from other's? Never, let personal feelings rule the day. Please, review the TV Sonce interview and tell me what if anything you disagree with? Thanks
    http://www.makedonskakafana.com

    Macedonia for the Macedonians

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13674

      MK, are you suggesting that we listen to Sam Vaknin? Which interview are you talking about, can you refer me to a link?
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • Makedonska_Kafana
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2642

        Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
        MK, are you suggesting that we listen to Sam Vaknin? Which interview are you talking about, can you refer me to a link?
        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13674

          I can get to the page but the link for the interview doesn't work. Can you just let us know why we should be listening to Sam Vaknin?
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Makedonska_Kafana
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 2642

            Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
            I can get to the page but the link for the interview doesn't work. Can you just let us know why we should be listening to Sam Vaknin?
            Link is fine .. You, should agree with everything he tells Slavko Mangov during this very honest interview. I, contacted Sam to see if he would do a 2nd interview to discus George Soros (wikileaks) and Crvenkovski and at that time he agreed. I, think he's had second thoughts and has since changed his mind?
            Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 09-27-2011, 11:52 PM.
            http://www.makedonskakafana.com

            Macedonia for the Macedonians

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            • Soldier of Macedon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 13674

              I will reserve my opinion until I can actually see the interview. But going from past comments made, Shmuel has said some pretty stupid things.

              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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              • Makedonska_Kafana
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2642

                Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                I will reserve my opinion until I can actually see the interview. But going from past comments made, Shmuel has said some pretty stupid things.

                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=2040
                This, is one thing Sam and I agree on and I would hope everyone watches the entire interview including Greeks.
                http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                • Soldier of Macedon
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13674

                  MK - I can't see the interview (yet). Can you tell me what exactly you agree with Sam about?
                  In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                  • Volk
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 894

                    Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                    Volk, do you only rely on what you already know, or do you at least make an effort to learn something new every know and then?

                    Just in the past 2 decades, and particularly in the past few months, we have had example after example of non-violent resistance and civil disobedience overthrowing dictators who have been entrenched for decades.
                    The change in Egypt was brought about from people not having money to buy bread with. The army sided with the people.

                    How the situation is comparable to Macedonia I would love for you to explain, or just deflect my questions with your own as you always do...
                    Makedonija vo Srce

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                    • Vangelovski
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 8532

                      Originally posted by Volk View Post
                      The change in Egypt was brought about from people not having money to buy bread with. The army sided with the people.

                      How the situation is comparable to Macedonia I would love for you to explain, or just deflect my questions with your own as you always do...
                      You know absolutely nothing about Egypt do you? What an ridiculously superficial analysis - the people didn't have money to buy bread...

                      Can you think of other examples for which you can provide a more sensible analysis? I highly doubt it. Who was it that called you a "physical and intellectual giant" that could "destroy" us...hmmm...what ever happened to him?
                      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        Originally posted by Volk View Post
                        The change in Egypt was brought about from people not having money to buy bread with. The army sided with the people.

                        How the situation is comparable to Macedonia I would love for you to explain, or just deflect my questions with your own as you always do...
                        What you are saying is that Macedonia is not in a dire situation and that the impetus for change does not exist. Macedonia 2.0 is a lovely multiethnic country full of Slavs and a more dominant Albanian minority. Ahhh what dreams are made of ..... Or nightmares.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Volk
                          Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 894

                          Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                          What you are saying is that Macedonia is not in a dire situation and that the impetus for change does not exist. Macedonia 2.0 is a lovely multiethnic country full of Slavs and a more dominant Albanian minority. Ahhh what dreams are made of ..... Or nightmares.
                          Quite right minus the slav tag which is wearing off after the fall of Yugoslavia....

                          You know absolutely nothing about Egypt do you? What an ridiculously superficial analysis - the people didn't have money to buy bread...

                          Can you think of other examples for which you can provide a more sensible analysis? I highly doubt it. Who was it that called you a "physical and intellectual giant" that could "destroy" us...hmmm...what ever happened to him?
                          My answers which are several words are as much as someone like you deserves. You have no answers for anyone only questions, and attempts to discredit warp and outright lie about peoples view. Me and obviously other people on the forum have close to zero time for you and this is my final attempt to even try to have any form of a conversation with the likes of yourself.
                          Makedonija vo Srce

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                          • Vangelovski
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 8532

                            Originally posted by Volk View Post
                            The change in Egypt was brought about from people not having money to buy bread with. The army sided with the people.
                            I heard that Mao led the Chinese revolution because Chinese peasants didn't have money to buy tea. Same as Castro's revolution in Cuba, but for Cigars.
                            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                            • Volk
                              Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 894

                              Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
                              I heard that Mao led the Chinese revolution because Chinese peasants didn't have money to buy tea. Same as Castro's revolution in Cuba, but for Cigars.
                              your a joke...

                              Are high food prices fueling revolution in Egypt?



                              How food prices can fuel revolutions like Egypt’s
                              The current unrest in Egypt is too complex to blame on spiking global food prices alone, but food insecurity does lead to political insecurity.


                              The Bread of Revolution: Food Prices and Uprisings in the Middle East
                              Although I am as interested as anyone in the Egyptian uprisings as a social movement and a form of cultural production, I keep emphasizing to my students that there are crucial economic issues unde…


                              Twitter didn’t cause the Egyptian revolution—bread did


                              The food price crisis and the Egyptian revolution

                              Since 2008, rising food prices have resulted in 40 mass riots throughout the globe and the United Nations reports that 37 countries currently face a food crisis.By Billy WhartonFebruary 14, 2011 -- Socialist Webzine -- Hidden beneath the spectacular street battles that forced the Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak out of office was a trigger that exists in dozens of countries throughout the world – food. Or, more specifically, the lack of it. While commentators focus on the corruption of the dictatorship, or the viral effects of the Tunisian moment or the something akin to an Arab political awakening, the inability of the Egyptian regime to ensure a steady flow of food staples should be viewed as a critical factor driving this seemingly spontaneous movement for freedom.


                              Bread Is Life: Food and Protest in Egypt
                              Makedonija vo Srce

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                              • Vangelovski
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 8532

                                Originally posted by Volk View Post
                                your a joke...

                                Are high food prices fueling revolution in Egypt?
                                http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...tion-in-egypt/


                                How food prices can fuel revolutions like Egypt’s
                                http://www.grist.org/article/2011-01...ns-like-egypts

                                The Bread of Revolution: Food Prices and Uprisings in the Middle East
                                http://connectedincairo.com/2011/07/...e-middle-east/

                                Twitter didn’t cause the Egyptian revolution—bread did
                                http://this.org/blog/2011/02/25/egypt-bread-revolution/

                                The food price crisis and the Egyptian revolution

                                http://links.org.au/node/2170

                                Bread Is Life: Food and Protest in Egypt
                                http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/201...rss-topstories
                                Really!?!?! It was all bread!?!?!?! What else do you get from blogs?

                                Have you ever tried reading a semi-academic journal...who am I kidding, you don't even know what that is!

                                Here's some Egypt specialists who didn't even pick up on that! But wtf would they know right? Volk, you have to call the UN...I mean, right now!



                                Even Wikipedia doesn't didn't go for price of bread angle. In fact, they rate "food price inflation" all the way down the bottom after police brutality, state of emergency laws, electoral fraud, political censorship, corruption and unemployment.



                                Whether bread comes before tomatoes and onions is unclear, but I'm sure they had something to do with it as well.

                                P.S. Castro was fond of his cigars, I have no doubt that is the reason he formed a rebel army and went on a virtual suicide mission...
                                If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                                The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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