Nikola Gruevski

[Pelister]

That would be a great name for a new political party in Macedonia.

The Macedonians need a new political party, desperately. One that ends the 'negotiations' and intends to put the question of our admission to the U.N back where it belongs - in the U>N and pursue it there. What I don't understand fully is why Gruevski continues to meddle with our identity? The legal experts have told him to move the whole issue back inside the U.N. He neglects even the most basic, and fundamental tasks of the protection of our identity. He is putting excessive pressure on the Macedonian people, and this side show has had the unintended effect (or maybe it has been intended) of alarming foreign powers that the Macedonians are willing to concede - this effect actually prolongs our 'suspect' status. If foriegn powers can be convinced the Macedonians want a compromise (and Gruevski has done a damn good job of it), then it is more likely they will not recognise us. For those of us who know something of international diplomacy and the history of foreign politics, Gruevski's (and UMD's for that matter) slavish worship of the E.U institution is about as traitorous as Macedonians are ever likely to get, when we come to objectively regard the E.U as a foriegn body hostile to our existence, and interfering in our internal affairs on the side of our enemies. The E.U is forcing commissions on the Macedonians, forcing reforms, telling them what their army should look like (downsizing it while Greece spends billions upsizing), inserting so called 'foriegn experts' - all of this is considered 'normal' except in the case of the Macedonian Republic where it is a method of liquiting Macedonian soveriegnty, erasing our name and identity. It is directly assisting through this kind of political manipulation what started in 1912 and 1913, the final conquest of Macedonian territory. I just wish the Macedonians would wake up about it.

[Bill77]

I think I am starting to gather that the process is normal and a necessary part of becoming a Prime Minister etc.

So much for hoping for something better.

Sorry to get your hopes up mate

[vojnik]

I just recieved information that this is a normal and necassary process in which that to become the Prime Minister one must resign from being a member of parliament I just wish the Macedonian English news sources could describe some news from Macedonian politics in more detail instead of getting people from the diasporas hopes up

[lavce pelagonski]

well who would have replacedd his spot?
who do we have?

[Daniel the Great]

If the reason of Gruevski's resignation is what a few of yous have suspected, and that is to basically lay low wile they change Macedonia's name, then what will the aftermath be? I suppose chaos and massive protests/demonstrations by Macedonian people world wide. What do yous all think will happen if the unwanted name change does happen?

[Rogi]

I'm surprised most didn't know it was part of the general practice for all MP's who take up executive/Ministerial positions in Government, to resign their MP positions.

There was also quite a sensationalist element in the way the headlines presented this, particularly when it generally goes unreported. I can't help but think that certain media was 'testing the waters' for a reaction to a resignation by Gruevski. A 'proben balon' if you like.

[vojnik]

We should be seeing official announcments of the replacments in the next couple of days this includes replacments of ministers and members of parliment everything until now has been speculation

[George S.]

it's either the name,entering nato/eu by november.Also maybe he is avoiding a deal with the shptari?
OR it's like a shaking of the cabinet to say look after an election.They can have new members for this or that.I only noticed the mina newspaper as the only one reporting it.

[vojnik]

it's either the name,entering nato/eu by november.Also maybe he is avoiding a deal with the shptari?
OR it's like a shaking of the cabinet to say look after an election.They can have new members for this or that.I only noticed the mina newspaper as the only one reporting it.

It is a natural process once a new government is formed that the prime minister has to resign from being a member of parliment this means that the primeminister only enters the chambers when questions are asked by the opposition to him otherwise he doesn't attend

[Bill77]

It is a natural process once a new government is formed that the prime minister has to resign from being a member of parliment this means that the primeminister only enters the chambers when questions are asked by the opposition to him otherwise he doesn't attend

I will high light your post again vojnik and i hope this is the last post on this thread and it dies. Its getting boring. Why.....because it has been answered many times now. As vojnik and others before said, Its a Natural process what Gruevski is doing and he is still going to be Prime Minister

No more conspiracy theories please.

[Zarni]

Bill you will have a hard time convincing some members here

[Soldier of Macedon]

Really Zarni, which members would those be?

[Bill77]

Bill you will have a hard time convincing some members here

I don't think so mate. Its not that they wont accept it, if thats what you are referring to. Its because they have missed the posts that the likes of Rogi and Indigen have posted an explanation of.

As Rogi said, There was quite a sensationalist element in the way the headlines presented this, so its no surprise that initially people jumped to conclusions.

[julie]

Am guilty My immediate perception initiated my conclusion

[George S.]

There was hardly anything in the papers how we supposed to know.I had a feeling that it's just a formality & it must be normal doing what they did.