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  • UMDiaspora.org
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 525

    Lobbying

    Originally posted by Piperka View Post
    Did they mean to say, "UMD does not lobby anymore." When did they stop lobbying? According to their 2008 tax returns, they engaged in lobbying that year. Their lobbying efforts were the bare minimum allowed to maintain 501(c)(3) status, but still considered to be lobbying.

    http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocument...052268ec-Z.pdf
    Thanks Piperka. This is true. We hired a government affairs specialist in Washington, D.C. in 2008 to educate Congress on issues concerning Macedonian-Americans.

    Vangelovski - UMD is honest, transparent, and accountable.
    For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

    United Macedonian Diaspora
    http://www.umdiaspora.org

    1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
    Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

    PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
    Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

    3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
    Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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    • Vangelovski
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 8532

      Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
      Vangelovski - UMD is honest, transparent, and accountable.
      Just simply stating that it is doesn't make it true. UMD has consistently misled the Macedonian people, it ignores legitimate questions and openly defies the wishes of the people it claims to represent.
      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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      • UMDiaspora.org
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 525

        Misled

        Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
        Just simply stating that it is doesn't make it true. UMD has consistently misled the Macedonian people, it ignores legitimate questions and openly defies the wishes of the people it claims to represent.
        UMD has had a successful membership month during September. Seems like Macedonian people like what we are doing.

        We can argue all you like, but it won't accomplish anything. You'll push what you want to push, and we'll push what we want to do.
        For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

        United Macedonian Diaspora
        http://www.umdiaspora.org

        1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
        Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

        PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
        Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

        3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
        Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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        • Mikail
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1338

          Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
          UMD is honest, transparent, and accountable.
          From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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          • Piperka
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 33

            Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
            Thanks Piperka. This is true. We hired a government affairs specialist in Washington, D.C. in 2008 to educate Congress on issues concerning Macedonian-Americans.
            Is the UMD no longer educating congress on issues concerning Macedonian-Americans?

            I'm truly not nitpicking, but why was Washington DC chosen for UMD headquarters, if not to lobby for the Macedonian-American community through the education of Congress, the Senate, and other important politicians in DC?

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            • Makedonska_Kafana
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 2642

              Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post

              we'll push what we want to do.
              who is we?
              http://www.makedonskakafana.com

              Macedonia for the Macedonians

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              • Pelister
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2742

                Originally posted by Rogi
                If it matters so much to you that the interim name is used properly, please complain to the UN for listing Macedonia as 'The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia' on its' website (http://www.un.org/en/members/#t).
                Better still why won't UMD begin lobbying the Macedonian government to take the U.N decision to admit Macedonia under the acronym FYROM to the U.N court?

                Who hear recalls Meto's statements, "WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR NAME". This spin of his that UMD are "honest and transparent" can only be intended to deceive Macedonians.

                Who hear recalls Meto's statement that called for a 'suspension' to the negotiations on the basis that "Greece was not serious about finding a solution"?

                UMD are deadly serious about Macedonia "finding a solution", i.e., compromising. What better way can there be of putting more and more pressure on the Macedonian government by one - keeping the 'negotiation process' alive, and two - entering the E.U and NATO under the acronym FYROM. This is tantamount to the Macedonians agreeing to the TERM that any admission to NATO and the E.U must be contingent on 'finding a solution', i.e., a compromise.

                I've said it before. The Macedonians are being railroaded toward political extinction. This farcial and irrational "negotiation process" and their attitude that our survival depends on joining these CLUBS is what is driving all of this. This is just another step. The Macedonians government WANTS the name to change.
                Last edited by Pelister; 10-07-2010, 08:20 PM.

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                • Bratot
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2855

                  It's more than obvious that UMD voice of the Government, or more specifically for the interest of some political individuals who are sponsoring the UMD.

                  The conclusion is: UMD is not Diaspora organisation.
                  The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    Another pathetic attempt by Meto to dodge the truth in defence of his blatant lies, the UMD are TRAITORS to the Macedonian Cause.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
                      ...and we'll push what we want to do.
                      You're pushing shit uphill...

                      stick to organizing cocktail parties, bah mitzvahs, tours to Turkish bath-houses and everything else that relegates the interests of the Macedonian people...

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                      • Makedonska_Kafana
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2642

                        Originally posted by Bratot View Post

                        The conclusion is: UMD is not Diaspora organisation.
                        i seen this from day one - usa and macedonian governments including crvenkovski (see macedonia 2025)


                        Originally posted by Pelister View Post

                        Who hear recalls Meto's statement that called for a 'suspension' to the negotiations on the basis that "Greece was not serious about finding a solution"?
                        suspension - temp
                        solution - an existing problem
                        Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 10-10-2010, 11:13 AM.
                        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                        • Pelister
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2742

                          Originally posted by UMD
                          we'll push what we want to do.
                          A small group of political whores pushing defacto for our political extinction. As long as you continue to fk with the Macedonian identity (in the same way that Gruevski is fking with all Macedonians right now); eventually, good natured and kind hearted Macedonians are going to sus you out.
                          Last edited by Pelister; 10-10-2010, 09:01 PM.

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                          • UMDiaspora.org
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 525

                            October 15 - Columbia University Conference on Macedonia

                            Just the messenger:

                            Full program: http://www.harrimaninstitute.org/MEDIA/01864.pdf

                            Link to conference details: http://www.harrimaninstitute.org/eve...nferences.html
                            For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                            United Macedonian Diaspora
                            http://www.umdiaspora.org

                            1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                            Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                            PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                            Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                            3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                            Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                            • UMDiaspora.org
                              Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 525

                              Push for Macedonia’s Accession to NATO at the Lisbon Summit

                              An excellent article!!

                              On November 19, NATO leaders will meet in Lisbon for a formal heads-of-state summit. The dominant issue for the United States will be the adoption of NATO’s new Strategic Concept, the first of the new millennium. However, the Obama Administration should also throw its weight behind further expansion of the alliance, especially Macedonia’s accession.
                              For comments, questions, concerns, please contact us at:

                              United Macedonian Diaspora
                              http://www.umdiaspora.org

                              1101 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, 6th Floor, Washington, D.C. 20004, United States
                              Phone: (202) 756-2244, Fax: (202) 756-7323, E-mail: [email protected]

                              PO Box 2153, Hawthorn, Vic. 3122, Australia
                              Phone: 0438 385 466, E-mail: [email protected]

                              3555 St. Clair Avenue East, Toronto, ON, M1K 1L6, Canada
                              Phone: 416-209-0448, E-mail: [email protected]

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                              • Vangelovski
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 8532

                                Originally posted by UMDiaspora.org View Post
                                Excellent? Really?

                                The U.N.-mediated talks between Greece and Macedonia will continue even if Macedonia accedes to the alliance. In a 1995 interim accord between the two nations, Greece pledged not to abuse its dominant position and block Macedonia’s entry into international institutions.

                                If it called on NATO to accept Macedonia under its state name and called for an end to negotiations, maybe. However, we are all aware that Macedonia's application for NATO membership is under the FYROM terminology. Further, the authors of this article expect Macedonia to continue negotiations and eventually compromise.
                                If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                                The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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