United Macedonia Diaspora

[mvb9999]

UMD is often a victim and usually of its own lies. MVB, how many members did you say umd has on maknews the other day? 3,000
Then when that was exposed as a complete lie, the thread was deleted. How amusing it is to watch you come here and complain about lies and deletions. These discussions with people like you are a waste of time, your methods are shameless.

Your friend Mr. V is calling John Bitove a Bulgarian because he donates to UMD, that's shameless.

[mvb9999]

MVB,

Try reading it again - Meto clearly states that UMD is a "precious national resource" and that by attacking UMD, one is destroying "our nations institutions".

If that is the case, then UMD and the Macedonian state must be one and the same, otherwise, how would an attack on UMD equate the destruction of Macedonian state institutions?

Fuzzy math there my friend, your interpretation isn't justified.

[iskra]

Iskra - various members in earlier posts have been taunting MVB9999 to come out and play - he shows up and now you are bored and want the thread closed!

Ha ha, why don't you answer the post below Mr. ignoring real issues? The umd already have thread in which you and mvb can play, there is no need to permit you to bore us all with a second one.

UMD is often a victim and usually of its own lies. MVB, how many members did you say umd has on maknews the other day? 3,000
Then when that was exposed as a complete lie, the thread was deleted. How amusing it is to watch you come here and complain about lies and deletions. These discussions with people like you are a waste of time, your methods are shameless.

[Vangelovski]

Your friend Mr. V is calling John Bitove a Bulgarian because he donates to UMD, that's shameless.

I pointed out their own self-identification as documented.

[Mr Brandy]

UMD is often a victim and usually of its own lies. MVB, how many members did you say umd has on maknews the other day? 3,000
Then when that was exposed as a complete lie, the thread was deleted. How amusing it is to watch you come here and complain about lies and deletions. These discussions with people like you are a waste of time, your methods are shameless.

Iskra - I can assure you that MVB does not have the priveledge of deleting anything - if someone deletes something it out of his control. Also I mentioned that a UMD thread on Maknews was filed in the archives - to my understanding not deleted.

[Vangelovski]

Fuzzy math there my friend, your interpretation isn't justified.

Its not my interpretation - its Meto's actual words.

[iskra]

Iskra - I can assure you that MVB does not have the priveledge of deleting anything - if someone deletes something it out of his control. Also I mentioned that a UMD thread on Maknews was filed in the archives - to my understanding not deleted.

Oh, not deleted, but put in the "archives", very quickly after mvb was exposed as a liar, so no one could see it. You are a waste of time.

[Mr Brandy]

Ha ha, why don't you answer the post below Mr. ignoring real issues? The umd already have thread in which you and mvb can play, there is no need to permit you to bore us all with a second one.

Sorry Iskra - maybe you should check the title of this thread. Is someone forcing you at gunpoint to read this thread - should I call 911 for you!

As I said before I am not a board member of UMD and I won't even begin trying to defend all of the accusations on these pages. Iskra on this forum any defenders of UMD are by far in the minority - sorry if the two guys putting up some form of argument are pissing you off.

[mvb9999]

MVB,

Try reading it again - Meto clearly states that UMD is a "precious national resource" and that by attacking UMD, one is destroying "our nations institutions".

If that is the case, then UMD and the Macedonian state must be one and the same, otherwise, how would an attack on UMD equate the destruction of Macedonian state institutions?

Yep, I read it twice, and it still doesn't say that UMD and the Macedonian state are one and the same.

[Vangelovski]

Yep, I read it twice, and it still doesn't say that UMD and the Macedonian state are one and the same.

Do you understand what a state institution is?

[mvb9999]

Its not my interpretation - its Meto's actual words.

So you say, but his words don't equal your interpretation. UMD is not the Macedonian state, you can say that till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't make it so.

[Vangelovski]

MVB,

Makedonska Kafana identifies Mark Branov (the UMD Board Member) as a member of Maknews. Your initials MVB certainly fit that description. Are you lying about your true identity?

[Mr Brandy]

Oh, not deleted, but put in the "archives", very quickly after mvb was exposed as a liar, so no one could see it. You are a waste of time.

Whatever Iskra - don't be a suck. MVB can't delete anything - it pissed me off when they moved it as well.

[Vangelovski]

So you say, but his words don't equal your interpretation. UMD is not the Macedonian state, you can say that till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't make it so.

I'll post that one more time for everyone to read for themselves:

Those who propagate against Macedonia are well aware of the existence of our precious national resources like the UMD [that keeps our nation strong] and gives voice to our collective cause. As such, UMD is targeted and continuously under attack by those who wish to weaken and divide and destroy our nation’s institutions and in doing so the goals and aspirations they so effectively advance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/UMDiaspo...29/aqkAUc5kkbI
1:35 minutes

[mvb9999]

Oh, not deleted, but put in the "archives", very quickly after mvb was exposed as a liar, so no one could see it. You are a waste of time.

I didn't lie, I told a man what I heard, and I clarified it. Desperate to change the subject, are we, Iskra?