Macedonian Church Dispute in Australia

[julie]

I dont give a toss what church anyone goes to, Mother Teresa has spoken, and now for the RATS response

[Mikail]

had he stayed he would have been defrocked

You have answered your own questions ZAS with this one very important statement!

Makedonche Bravo.

ZAS no church has left the Eparhia. Petar walked into Australia and started threatening priest and sueing comminities. He is Gospodin Gospodins representative here. The churches he couldn't "grab" as part of his now very extensive property portfolio are still loyal to Gospodin Gospodin Stefan.

No matter what you say ZAS, there are holes in your arguement. The TRUTH always comes out. Welcome to Macedonian Truth.

[julie]

Makedonche and Mikail you are champions in truth seeking

[makedonin]

Its amazing how the Dalai Llama does not have material wealth

The first time Dalai Llama fled to India in 1950,his advisors sent several hundred mule-loads of gold and silver bars ahead to secure his comfort in exile. After the second time he fled, in 1959, Peking Review reported that his family left lots of gold and silver behind, plus 20,331 pieces of jewelry and 14,676 pieces of clothing.

Don't get blinded by his "holyness". He is a priest and a politician, no real difference between our priests and him.

[aleksandrov]

ZAS,

You cannot contribute to resolving a dispute if you have the most elementary facts behind it so wrong. I am not sure whether you are really that uninformed or you are deliberately trying to deceive the uninformed, but I certainly don't see a third possibility.

Let's go through your misconceptions about the fundamental relevant considerations in the Church dispute one at a time:

You claim that Petar's Diocese is registered in Australia, right? Where is it registered and as what? Can you provide some sort of certificate of registration? If not, can you at least provide one statement by Bishop Petar himself about whether his Diocese is registered and what it is registered as?

[Bratot]

Here is the video footage, Poglavar Stefan even gets a present from Branko Crevenkovski.

http://sitel.com.mk/video/makedonija...ovski%E2%80%9C

Gifts for gifts

SDSM oligarchs were awarded by the MOC on its "achievments" in 2008.

Among others awarded were banker Hari Kostov , businessmens Shterjo Nakov and Minco Jordanov, and the President of the Chamber of Commerce, Branko Azeski.

http://www.kirilica.com.mk/vest.asp?id=3687

It's all money laundry.

[dedanoe]

when SDSM weights down then VMRO wears up the crown and summarily Macedonia is Blanko Floating DPMNE Chakra. they rule together and believe MPC 4 she is aware enough. nemam namera da vi se dodvoruvam ami sal muslim da e takva politichkata: ednine vladeat od propozicija a drugine od opozicija. ako yinot ne go prifati yangot togash toj gi osudil i dvata na annihilational disperzija.

[indigen]

ZAS,

You cannot contribute to resolving a dispute if you have the most elementary facts behind it so wrong. I am not sure whether you are really that uninformed or you are deliberately trying to deceive the uninformed, but I certainly don't see a third possibility.

Let's go through your misconceptions about the fundamental relevant considerations in the Church dispute one at a time:

You claim that Petar's Diocese is registered in Australia, right? Where is it registered and as what? Can you provide some sort of certificate of registration? If not, can you at least provide one statement by Bishop Petar himself about whether his Diocese is registered and what it is registered as?

Hi Igor,
I am not sure if you are aware that this character is the same FRAUD whom you unmasked over at Maknews that was presenting himself as "Bradley Pappas". If you are not, check the following links and you will easily work it out:

ZAS
Join Date: May 2009

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Hello to fellow Macedonians,
I do not in anyway support the OHRID AGREEMENT, NAME NEGOTIATIONS, SLAV THEORIES, VENTILATOROT NA GLIGOROV, or any other HOG-WASH that get's shoved down our THROATS, all IZDAJNICI must be OSUDENI SO NAJVISOKATA KAZNA.
I want to remain a member here, as i feel i have found true bratoj here.
If anyone has a problem with my veiws, please speak up, or forever hold your peace.

05-19-2009 #7
Daskalot
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Z Apostolovski's Student, why are you a student of Zivko Apostolovski?
What influence has he had upon you that you must go around the world and be his student?

05-20-2009 #15
ZAS

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Originally Posted by Risto the Great View Post
Call me ignorant.
I don't know Zhivko Apostolovski.
But I still feel like a good Macedonian if that helps.

Perhaps Daskalot might enlighten you, about Zivko, I am here to help the Macedonian nation rise to GREATNESS, not to GLORIFY academics.

05-20-2009 #20
osiris
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zas are you also bradley pappas from maknews.

05-20-2009 #21
Rogi

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I was going to ask the same...

12-11-2009 #24
indigen

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This guy using Zhivko's REAL name is a FRAUD and aims to denigrate him! And, YES, he IS THE SAME GUY - 100%!

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1315

Also check the whole of the following thread and you will see more of the FRAUD this character is:

Church Dispute Settled in Perth,WA

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2262

[indigen]

when SDSM weights down then VMRO wears up the crown and summarily Macedonia is Blanko Floating DPMNE Chakra. they rule together and believe MPC 4 she is aware enough. nemam namera da vi se dodvoruvam ami sal muslim da e takva politichkata: ednine vladeat od propozicija a drugine od opozicija. ako yinot ne go prifati yangot togash toj gi osudil i dvata na annihilational disperzija.

D.,
I think most of your postings are off topic and inappropriate in the forums you post. Secondly, IME, you do have a purpose but it is not in line with what MTO was setup for. Your aim (and you are not the only practitioner of this art on MTO) appears to be to submerge any meaningful political discussions that occurs here with various "weird and wonderful topics" and/or off-topic posts. Perhaps there is a need for a few more new sub-forums on MTO, e.g. "Chit Chat", "Muabetenje", "Flirting", etc.....Food for thought for the MTO Admins.

With repect,
I.

[osiris]

D.,
I think most of your postings are off topic and inappropriate in the forums you post. Secondly, IME, you do have a purpose but it is not in line with what MTO was setup for. Your aim (and you are not the only practitioner of this art on MTO) appears to be to submerge any meaningful political discussions that occurs here with various "weird and wonderful topics" and/or off-topic posts. Perhaps there is a need for a few more new sub-forums on MTO, e.g. "Chit Chat", "Muabetenje", "Flirting", etc.....Food for thought for the MTO Admins.

With repect,
I.

ditto ditto ditto

[aleksandrov]

Indigen, What happens if you get excommunicated by the church like what happened to Ico Najdoski?? I sure wouldnt like to stand in the way of the bishop, toj znaj da kolni do sedmo koleno.

Which makes him as credible and scary as a witch or a 'bayachka'.

[aleksandrov]

...Does anybody here know Apostolovski, and what he is about?

Zivko Apostolovski is a veteran Macedonian patriot from Wollongong, who is very unhappy about this fraudster, Bradley/Papas/Zivko Apostolovski's Student/ZAS, using his name on internet forums.

[Soldier of Macedon]

ZAS,

Explain yourself. In the past I am sure you claimed something like that you were able to obtain Zivko's consent for using his real name should it be required, it appears that you were lying, again.

What do you think the most appropriate reaction to a liar is, ZAS?

[Prolet]

Gifts for gifts

SDSM oligarchs were awarded by the MOC on its "achievments" in 2008.

Among others awarded were banker Hari Kostov , businessmens Shterjo Nakov and Minco Jordanov, and the President of the Chamber of Commerce, Branko Azeski.

http://www.kirilica.com.mk/vest.asp?id=3687

It's all money laundry.

Bratot, MPC arnt doing themselves any good if they are taking sides, what possible good can they do with SDSM when they only have 14 prateniks? I can understand that they are trying to be neutral but if thats the case then they should be visiting DUI too.

[Vangelovski]

Indigen, What happens if you get excommunicated by the church like what happened to Ico Najdoski?? I sure wouldnt like to stand in the way of the bishop, toj znaj da kolni do sedmo koleno.

Prolet,

Do you understand what excommunication is? Do you understand that Petar is merely a man and ultimately can neither curse or bless? Why are you using these scare tactics? Are you trying to encourage obedience to Petar and discourage those who want to speak out against his unbiblical leadership?