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  • Makedonska_Kafana
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2642

    Originally posted by mango View Post
    Thanks guys! Excellent job. Great move to combine MHRMI and AMHRC resources.
    Za, mnogu godini Mango .. pozdrav od Toronto, Kanada

    „НИКОЈ НЕМА ПРАВО ДА ПРЕГОВАРА ЗА МОЕТО ИМЕ„ - ПРЕС КОНФЕРЕНЦИЈА
    http://www.makedonskakafana.com

    Macedonia for the Macedonians

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    • AMHRC
      De-registered
      • Sep 2009
      • 919

      Un expert recommends bulgaria recognise its macedonian minority

      UN EXPERT RECOMMENDS BULGARIA RECOGNISE ITS MACEDONIAN MINORITY

      15 February 2012

      Blagoevgrad/Gorna Dzumaja (Bulgaria), Melbourne (Australia) and Toronto (Canada)

      OMO “Ilinden” PIRIN, the political party of the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria, together with the Australian Macedonian Human Rights Committee (AMHRC) and Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) welcome the recent release of the report of the United Nations Independent Expert on Minority Issues on the situation in Bulgaria.

      The report was made public on 3 January 2012 by the newly appointed UN Independent Expert, Ms. Rita Izsák and follows the visit to Bulgaria in July 2011 of her predecessor, Ms Gay McDougall. During the visit to Bulgaria, the Independent Expert met with representatives of the Macedonian minority in the country. The delegation comprised of: Stojko Stojkov, Co-President of OMO "Ilinden" PIRIN and Stahil Tupalski, Central Council Member of OMO "Ilinden" PIRIN; Stojan Gerasimov from the Society of Repressed Macedonians; and Georgi Hristov, the Chief Editor of the pro-Macedonian newspaper, Narodna Volja. The meeting gave the Macedonian organisations the opportunity to provide the Independent Expert with a first hand, documented account of the problems facing the Macedonian population in Bulgaria.

      The post-visit report made a number of observations in relation to the situation of minorities in Bulgaria. In paragraphs 66-67, devoted to the Macedonian minority, the Independent Expert noted that:

      “66. Article 54 of the Bulgarian Constitution states that “everyone shall have the right to avail himself of the national and universal human cultural values and to develop his own culture in accordance with his ethnic self-identification, which shall be recognized and guaranteed by the law.” However, the Government denies the existence of an ethnic Macedonian minority, and does not recognize the Pomaks (considered as Bulgarian-speaking Muslims by the Government) as a distinct minority – claiming that both groups are in fact ethnic Bulgarians. Representatives of those who self-identify as ethnic Macedonians and as Pomaks claim that their minority rights are consequently violated.

      67. Ethnic Macedonians consider it of crucial importance that their ethnic identity and distinctiveness be officially recognized. Community representatives strongly dispute census findings reflecting very low and declining numbers of Macedonians,and claim that the true population is many times higher. The Macedonian language is not recognized or taught in schools and Macedonians are not represented on the National Council for Cooperation on Ethnic and Integration Issues.

      Most significantly though, the Independent Expert made a number of significant recommendations in relation to the recognition of the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria.

      In relation to respect for self-identification the Independent Expert recommended that:

      “93. In accordance with its Constitutional provisions to respect the right to ethnic self-identification, the Government should ensure and protect this right, as well as the rights to freedom of expression and freedom of association of members of the Macedonian and Pomak minorities.

      94. Policies relating to the recognition and rights of minority groups must be assessed in relation to the State’s obligations under international human rights law. Article 27 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights states that “in those States in which ethnic, religious or linguistic minorities exist, persons belonging to such minorities shall not be denied the right, in community with the other members of their group, to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise their own religion, or to use their own language.” The question of the existence of minorities is addressed by the Human Rights Committee in its general comment No. 23 (1994) on the rights of minorities. Article 5.2 states that “the existence of an ethnic, religious or linguistic minority in a given State party does not depend upon a decision by that State party but requires to be established by objective criteria.”

      95. With regard to identification with a particular racial or ethnic group, the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination has established in its general recommendation No. 8 (1990) on article 1 of the Convention that “such identification shall, if no justification exists to the contrary, be based upon self-identification by the individual concerned.” The right of individuals to freely identify as belonging to an ethnic, religious or linguistic group is therefore established in international law. Domestic law should recognize such rights and ensure that no individual or group suffers from any disadvantage or discriminatory treatment on the basis of their freely chosen identity as belonging (or not) to an ethnic, religious, linguistic or any other group.

      On Bulgaria’s refusal to abide by judgements of the European Court of Human Rights, the views of the Independent Expert were quite explicit:

      96. Bulgaria should comply fully with the judgements of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) relating to persons belonging to such communities and implement its rulings without further delay. Associations should be allowed to register and function without impediment, use their chosen names and express their ethnic identities freely. Associations that have been denied in the past should promptly be given official registration.

      The Independent Expert also recommended the introduction of the Macedonian language to the Bulgarian education system:

      “97. The Government’s position not to allow the use of mother tongue languages as the language of instruction in schools, particularly in regions where minorities are a majority or constitute a large percentage of the population, is a concern for minorities, including the Roma, Turkish Muslims and Macedonians. Bilingual education commencing in the early years of schooling would enable children to become proficient in their mother tongue as well as in Bulgarian. Furthermore, it would enable them to maintain their ethnic and linguistic identity and help minority pupils to achieve positive educational outcomes. The Government is urged to consider introducing bilingual education and to ratify the European Charter for Regional and Minority Languages”

      OMO “Ilinden” PIRIN, the political party of the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria, together with the Australian Macedonian Human Rights Committee (AMHRC) and Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) demand that the Bulgarian Government takes note of the report of the UN Independent Expert on Minority Issues and implements, in full and without delay, each of the recommendations contained in the report.

      The full report can be downloaded here:


      __________

      OMO "Ilinden" PIRIN is a political party supporting the rights of the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria. It has been banned since 2000, despite a 2005 European Court of Human Rights Judgement ruling that the decision was a violation of the European Convention on Human Rights. For more information please visit www.omoilindenpirin.org.


      Established in 1984 the Australian Macedonian Human Rights Committee (AMHRC) is a non governmental organisation that advocates before governments, international institutions and broader communities about combating discrimination and promoting basic human rights. Our aspiration is to ensure that Macedonian communities and other excluded groups throughout the world are recognised, respected and afforded equitable treatment. For more information please visit www.macedonianhr.org.au , or contact AMHRC by email [email protected] or on +61 3 93298960.


      Macedonian Human Rights Movement International (MHRMI) has been active on human and national rights issues for Macedonians and other oppressed peoples since 1986. For more information: www.mhrmi.org, twitter.com/mhrmi, facebook.com/mhrmi, [email protected],+1 416-850-7125.
      Last edited by AMHRC; 02-14-2012, 09:41 PM.

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      • makedonche
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 3242

        AMHRC
        Excellent work again, great outcome ........ now let's see if the Tartars play ball.....and also if UN enforces the decisions/recommendations!
        On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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        • chentovist
          Banned
          • Feb 2012
          • 130

          Whilst this is a great result, nobody pays attention to these reports. The Tartars will do the same with Radkovci in Macedonia. All those Macedonians with BG citizenship are already being used by Bulgar propagandists for their great-bulgar dreams...

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            Originally posted by chentovist View Post
            All those Macedonians with BG citizenship are already being used by Bulgar propagandists for their great-bulgar dreams...
            The BG turncoats are of no use to Macedonians.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Bill77
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 4545

              "UN EXPERT RECOMMENDS BULGARIA RECOGNISE ITS MACEDONIAN MINORITY"
              Its only a recommendation which means sweet FA.
              Unless the UN enter and make it happen, it would be status quo for eternity.
              http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                Originally posted by chentovist View Post
                Whilst this is a great result, nobody pays attention to these reports. The Tartars will do the same with Radkovci in Macedonia. All those Macedonians with BG citizenship are already being used by Bulgar propagandists for their great-bulgar dreams...
                In my opinion, OMO Ilinden Pirin can't properly be compared with the Radko association, because the first is connected to a genuine minority whereas the second is mainly a crew of bulgarophile Macedonians.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • Volk
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 894

                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  The BG turncoats are of no use to Macedonians.
                  I beg to differ, they can be a trojan horse..
                  Makedonija vo Srce

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    Originally posted by Volk View Post
                    I beg to differ, they can be a trojan horse..
                    How are they going to be Trojan horses? Are you suggesting that these people, most of whom have opportunistically declared as Bulgars, will be pro-Macedonian in Bulgaria (when they can't even be pro-Macedonian in Macedonia)? I would love for it to be this way, but it's a little optimistic. For me, it isn't even the fact that Macedonians are opting for foreign passports to find work, it is the criteria which they accept for obtaining such passports that is the issue.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      I suspect he means the reverse. That they can become a problem for Macedonians. That can only be the case if they actually believe they have a Bulgarian ethnicity. Which simply does not happen except for a handful of nutjobs.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Vangelovski
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 8532

                        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                        I suspect he means the reverse. That they can become a problem for Macedonians. That can only be the case if they actually believe they have a Bulgarian ethnicity. Which simply does not happen except for a handful of nutjobs.
                        They will become a problem for Macedonians, because in years to come, statistics will show them up as Bulgarians. Macedonia today, which has no Bulgarians (or at least such a tiny number not worth mentioning) will in future statistical analysis show up as having quite a sizable Bulgarian minority because these people have declared themselves as ethnic Bulgarians.
                        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          What statistics?
                          "People with dual citizenship"?
                          As I said, if they actually call themselves Bulgarian by ethnicity, then it would be a problem.
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • makedonche
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3242

                            Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                            How are they going to be Trojan horses? Are you suggesting that these people, most of whom have opportunistically declared as Bulgars, will be pro-Macedonian in Bulgaria (when they can't even be pro-Macedonian in Macedonia)? I would love for it to be this way, but it's a little optimistic. For me, it isn't even the fact that Macedonians are opting for foreign passports to find work, it is the criteria which they accept for obtaining such passports that is the issue.
                            SoM
                            ..."the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence syndrome"
                            rather than address the problems where they live they choose to run from them to the comfort of a racist EU state for the sake of being able to work in the EU instead of rolling up their sleeves and working at home!.....go figure?

                            PS...it didn't cost them very much...only their identity.
                            On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                              What statistics?
                              "People with dual citizenship"?
                              As I said, if they actually call themselves Bulgarian by ethnicity, then it would be a problem.
                              RtG, as far as I am aware, Macedonians need to officially declare a Bulgarian 'ethnicity' or 'heritage' to obtain Bulgarian passports, and they sign documents to that effect.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • Vangelovski
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 8532

                                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                                What statistics?
                                "People with dual citizenship"?
                                As I said, if they actually call themselves Bulgarian by ethnicity, then it would be a problem.
                                The only way a Macedonian can gain Bulgarian citizenship is if they declare their Bulgarian ethnicity on the application form. So yes, every single Macedonian that has taken out Bulgarian citizenship has FREELY signed a legal document stating that they are ethnic Bulgarians. This is a formidable collection of evidence for a historian in 100 years time looking back. If I were a historian looking at this documentation, I would be much more likely to accept that they considered themselves as Bulgarians than as Macedonians, for which there are only online rants from the likes of us.
                                If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                                The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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