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  • Macedonian_Nationalist
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 407

    Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
    They can be anything their imagination would like them to be.

    By the way, How's the players excuse (from that article), 'he didn't know what that salute meant' lol

    Fucking lying morons.
    Was pointing at a mate in the stands lol

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    • Stojacanec
      Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 809

      Its confusing, the soccer federation doesn't condone the Nazi fascist but they have seats in parlament.

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      • Bill77
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 4545

        Originally posted by Stojacanec View Post
        Its confusing, the soccer federation doesn't condone the Nazi fascist but they have seats in parlament.
        Sure they do, but they must put on a face for the rest of the world.

        As for the seats in parliament.......well they can hide behind this word "democracy" and they will claim they can't do anything about it as these neo nazis were elected and placed there in a democratic proses.

        Yes they pick and choose as it suits, as to when to respect democracy.
        Last edited by Bill77; 03-18-2013, 11:48 PM.
        http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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        • Niko777
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1895

          Greece and the EU are a joke, allowing a neo-Nazi group to target young children like this is despicable.

          Διάπλαση των παίδων - YouTube


          PS. this shouldn't be viewed any differently when looking at how UCK/Macedonian politicians have allowed the radicalization of young Albanian children in Macedonian schools
          Last edited by Niko777; 04-16-2013, 12:41 PM.

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          • SirGeorge8600
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 117

            I've got to admit, it's pretty impressive how they got everyone to standup in a lazy country like Greece. I made that comment on the video and the GD banned me lol

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            • Tomche Makedonche
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1123

              Greece moves to ban far-right Golden Dawn party

              Government to table emergency legislation after murder of anti-fascist rapper Pavlos Fyssas at ultra-nationalist rally


              Government to table emergency legislation after murder of anti-fascist rapper Pavlos Fyssas at ultra-nationalist rally

              The Greek government has hinted that it will seek to ban Golden Dawn after the far-right party was linked to the murder of a leading leftwing musician in Athens.

              As violence erupted on the streets and demonstrators protested after the fatal stabbing of Pavlos Fyssas, a prominent anti-fascist, the public order minister, Nikos Dendias, cancelled a trip abroad saying the government would table emergency legislation that would seek to outlaw the group.

              Amid renewed political tensions between the extreme left and right, the new law would re-evaluate what constituted a criminal gang, he said.

              "Neither the state will tolerate, nor society accept, acts and practices that undermine the legal system," the minister told reporters, adding that the attack showed "in the clearest way the [party's] intentions".

              Earlier in the day, police raided Golden Dawn offices across the country, with media reporting running street battles outside branches in Crete, Thessaloniki and Patras.

              Voted into the Greek parliament for the first time last June, the neo-fascist Golden Dawn has been widely accused of employing violence to further its ratings in the polls.

              The socialist Pasok party, the junior member of Antonis Samaras's two-party coalition, has campaigned openly for it to be banned, saying it should be considered a criminal gang.

              The 34-year-old rapper died within minutes of being stabbed in the chest when he and a group of seven friends were set upon by around 30 black-clad supporters of Golden Dawn in the working-class district of Keratsini.

              Eyewitnesses said the singer was stabbed several times by a man who suddenly appeared in a car after being phoned by members of the mob. The attack bore all the hallmarks of a premeditated assault, they said.

              The alleged perpetrator, a 45-year-old man who was arrested when police rushed to the scene, later confessed to being a member of Golden Dawn. His wife, who was also detained, admitted having attempted to hide incriminating evidence, including party credentials linking her husband to the extremist organisation, when he called her, panic stricken, after the murder. Greek media cited police as saying the man was not only a sympathiser of Golden Dawn but visited its offices in Keratsini "five or six times" a week.

              With parties across Greece's entire political spectrum condemning the killing, the far-right group vehemently denied it had any connection with the crime or the alleged culprit. In a rare intervention, the president, Karolos Papoulias, warned: "It is our duty not to allow any space whatsoever to fascism – not even an inch."

              Fyssas, who performed under the stage name Killah P, would be the first Greek to have died at the hands of Golden Dawn, which until recently reserved its venom exclusively for migrants. Within hours of his death sending shockwaves through Greek society, the killing was being described as an "assassination."

              Greece's third largest party and fastest growing political force, Golden Dawn currently controls 18 seats in the 300-member parliament. It appears to have been emboldened by its soaring popularity on the back of economic desperation.

              In an atmosphere brittle with anger, uncertainty and fear, politically motivated violence has escalated, with the ultra-nationalists being blamed for attacks on communist activists last week and on a rightwing mayor in the south over the weekend.

              Speculation is rife that the leadership of Golden Dawn may have lost control over a party whose grassroots supporters view themselves as soldiers in an armed struggle aimed at overthrowing a political establishment they blame for the country's woes.

              "It is up to the government now to deal with Golden Dawn once and for all," said Giorgos Kyrtsos, a prominent political commentator. "We know very little about the inner workings of Golden Dawn, and whether its leadership has lost control [over its members]. But what we do know is that, for the first time, the government has them in a corner."
              Theres a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you cant take part, you cant even passively take part, and youve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and youve got to make it stop, and youve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless youre free, the machine will be prevented from working at all - Mario Savio

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              • Bill77
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 4545

                And while they are at it, ban the other black clothed fascist mongrels, starting with the antichrist idiot from Solun.
                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                • Gocka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2306

                  Do they just expect eh extremists to quietly leave the fold if they ban them? It will most likely embolden them and their supporters, and give them an even bigger reason to be violent. They cant just ban the golden racists because a fairly large portion of Greek citizens think and agree with their ideology. You can ban the formation of the official party but that will not just erase the thinking of all their followers, which from what he have seen is quite a few. I smell the potential for a mini civil war.

                  Maybe if the greek government stopped spreading propaganda, its citizens wouldn't be such big racists and wouldn't have so much hate for everyone non "greek", and a party like the golden homos wouldn't have a single followers expect for the occasional lunatic. Of course its not like they dont know this already, but they will never admit that the only reason any of them have been able to hold power is because of the constant brainwashing garbage that they spew.

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    it's only a matter of time when these lunatics will take over the running of greece & prove that the nazis are still in existence & alive & practicising their trade in greece to the full.It all depends how seriously they are taken & then when they get into power bang they will take the country into the dark ages.Macedonia is not really getting ready for the inevitable.
                    Last edited by George S.; 09-19-2013, 08:42 AM.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Stojacanec
                      Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 809

                      To me its sad to here the common folk saying their lives are in danger due to the existence of these legalised thugs. I am sure these people felt like this even before the murder. However the government allows them to gain seats in parliament and terrorise neighbourhoods.

                      More evidence pointing towards greece being dysfunctional unit.

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                      • George S.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10116

                        a junta previously ,now an undemocratic country with totalarian tendencies.
                        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                        GOTSE DELCEV

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          if these nazis come into power they will terrorize the minorities even more & make it inhospitable to live in greece.These nazis aren't afraid of doing what they want.Apparently according to news on macedonian radio the Golden dawn hold 18 seats in the greek government.So allready they are entrenching themselves in the seats of power.
                          Last edited by George S.; 09-21-2013, 04:17 AM.
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13674

                            Golden Dawn are merely the most prominent and outspoken fascists in a country where fascism is considered 'normal' by many people. The (lack of) human rights of the Macedonians and other ethno-linguistic minorities is clear evidence of this. So, when people like Papoulias say that it is their "duty not to allow any space whatsoever to fascism", it is downright hypocritical.
                            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                            • Gocka
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2306

                              Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                              Golden Dawn are merely the most prominent and outspoken fascists in a country where fascism is considered 'normal' by many people. The (lack of) human rights of the Macedonians and other ethno-linguistic minorities is clear evidence of this. So, when people like Papoulias say that it is their "duty not to allow any space whatsoever to fascism", it is downright hypocritical.
                              Thank you, well said. Golden dawn wouldn't be so popular if fascism wasn't popular. Fact is the Greek government, no matter who was in power, has always used the inherent racism of its population to its advantage, and has helped spread it. Its absolutely no shock, if it wasn't golden dawn it would be someone else. That's what decades of brainwashing and hate get you. A morally bankrupt and racist group of people.

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                              • George S.
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10116

                                GOCKA THE Greek people are to blame for allowing the greek govt free rein to do as they want.Sounds too familiar to therom govt & the macedonian people.They are doing exactly the same thing & taking advantage of the apathy & ignorance that exits & the indifference as well.THe govt is perpetuated by its people.Don't give me any crap or shit that it'sd the govt of the day.Look at what they have allowed them to do & to become fascists & nazis.
                                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                                GOTSE DELCEV

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