Treaty of Nuilly, 1919 - any questions?

[Daskalot]

Who was your friend?

Everyone and no one, the people of the land were left on their own...

[Areianos]

I don't understand, why were they left on their own, and why did 2 million people with a clear ethnic conscience did not do anything?

[Daskalot]

I don't understand, why were they left on their own, and why did 2 million people with a clear ethnic conscience did not do anything?

Propaganda swayed the feeble minded, the Propaganda war that was unleashed in Macedonia was very fierce.

[Areianos]

But propaganda was everywhere, why did it affect your people more than other people?

[Daskalot]

But propaganda was everywhere, why did it affect your people more than other people?

Propaganda was not everywhere, in Macedonia at least 4 nations spread their propaganda thru church and school, this is a well documented fact.

Was there 4 nations spreading their propaganda any time during Greece's creation in the early 19th century?

[Areianos]

Who were the four nations that were spreading their propaganda?

[Daskalot]

Who were the four nations that were spreading their propaganda?

Greece
Serbia
Bulgaria
Romania

[Areianos]

I still don't understand how 2 million people with a clear ethnic conscience did not fight for their liberation.

[Risto the Great]

We had no battle of Navarino. No French, Russian, English, Germans etc.
We had Ilinden.
We had some others as well.
But alas, no friends.

Does that help?

[toothpaste]

We had no battle of Navarino. No French, Russian, English, Germans etc.
We had Ilinden.
We had some others as well.
But alas, no friends.

Does that help?

The eternal fairy tail of nationalism of small states/nations.

"We were always fewer against more"
"We have no friends"
"We serve justice...they are the bad guys"

Nationalists have more commons than odds

[Areianos]

What happened after Illinden ?

[Daniel]

Once again under the Ottomans, until we tried to liberate once more in 1913 with the help our Orthodox 'Brothers' the Greeks, Serbs and Bulgars, which turned out to be even worse that being under the Muslim Ottomans.

[Areianos]

What did the Greeks, Sebs and Bulgars do exactly?

[Daniel]

They lured us with the false hope of liberation, but instead, showed themselves to be captors. They each sent their army's as far as possible and kept what ever land they could lay their hands on. It stayed like this until the second Balkan war when i guess you could say the Bulgarians got too greedy, and lost quite a lot of land, especially to Greece.

After this period, each of the nations used an extensive program of assimilation and denied the right of the Macedonians to call themselves anything other than Greek, Bulgarian or Greek.

[Makedonia]

The First Balkan War had the Balkan League comprising of Bulgaria, Greece, Montenegro and Serbia fighting against the Ottoman Empire which resulted in a Balkan League victory and the Treaty of London.

The Second Balkan War had Bulgaria fighting against Serbia, Greece, Montenegro, Romania and the Ottoman Empire resulting in a Bulgarian defeat and the Treaty of Bucharest.

Greece's position is clear in these wars.

Where was todays Republic of Macedonia during these battles or who were they represented by?