Hellenism NEVER exists, its all greek falsifications !!!

[TerraNova]

This is very clear.The Greek speakers were found in the 19th century but were pushed out in the 7th century.

Pushed SOUTH.

[Bratot]

Macedonian type of lamps

The Macedonian type of lamps in Republic of Macedonia are found at Stobi, Negotino (almost as a unique type from the 2nd century BC), Demir Kapija (likewise as a unique type from the 2nd century BC), Kavadarci, Prilep, Bitola, Ohrid, IsarMarvinci – where this particular type from the total of excavated lamps from the Macedonian period is present by (59%) and is the most common type during this period.



The case is identical on the territory of Ancient Macedonia that presently is in frames of Greece.
Namely, these types of lamps are found at Pella 37%, also in a large group in Veroia, Thessaloniki, Amphipolis and far south as Dion.

In Thessaly this type of lamps is not present. Strong testimony that this is a local type of a lamps is the locations of the findings, the percentage of the presence of these finds, as well as the absence of this type out side the boundaries of Ancient Macedonia.


The lamp type most probably was inspired by the lamps which were characteristic for the last quarter of the 3rd century and throughout the 2nd century BC, and are especially common on the sites in Asia Minor and Attica, but are also present on our sites as well. It can be assessed that the place of origin, production and development of the variations of this type of lamps was the territory of Ancient Macedonia from which the appellation "Macedonian type" was coined. These lamps date from the late 3rd century BC, the whole 2nd century BC, and are present as late as the first quarter of the 1st century BC.

Determined as earliest specimens according to the form, the material in which they were made and the glaze are the lamps in a more elegant manufacture and fine glaze. Classified as variation A, these are distinct by the black color, and a metallic shine and date from the end of the 3rd century BC, and early and first half of 2nd century BC.The variation B which is the most common type has a body equivalent in size of the nozzle. These lamps are executed with a fine glaze are usually red or brown in color, and date around about the middle of the 2nd century BC.The variation C is distinct by the reduction of the nozzle in relation to the body.

These types of lamps lose the handle on the right side, and generally were not colored, but were left in the baking color. They are characteristic for the second half of the 2nd century BC.The variation D is like the previous variation, however with a handle on the right side of the body. On these lamps the pouring hole for the oil is enlarged and the discus is nearly lost. Like in the previous variation the lamps are not colored and retain the baking color. This variation can be dated to the second half and the late 2nd century BC. The variation E is distinct for the last phase, the fabrication has a rough finish and is an indication for the termination of the type. This variation is characterized by enlargement of the wick section in relation to the body, as well as and the profile of the wick section, which has become wider in the middle and touches the surface on which the lamp sits.

Antonio Jakimovski

[Bratot]

Greece - the street DOG of Madame EUROPE

[Risto the Great]

Greece - the street DOG of Madame EUROPE

My how times have (not) changed.

Is that dog wearing a foustanella?

[TerraNova]

The Macedonian type of lamps in Republic of Macedonia are found at Stobi, Negotino (almost as a unique type from the 2nd century BC), Demir Kapija (likewise as a unique type from the 2nd century BC), Kavadarci, Prilep, Bitola, Ohrid, IsarMarvinci – where this particular type from the total of excavated lamps from the Macedonian period is present by (59%) and is the most common type during this period.



The case is identical on the territory of Ancient Macedonia that presently is in frames of Greece.
Namely, these types of lamps are found at Pella 37%, also in a large group in Veroia, Thessaloniki, Amphipolis and far south as Dion.

In Thessaly this type of lamps is not present. Strong testimony that this is a local type of a lamps is the locations of the findings, the percentage of the presence of these finds, as well as the absence of this type out side the boundaries of Ancient Macedonia.


The lamp type most probably was inspired by the lamps which were characteristic for the last quarter of the 3rd century and throughout the 2nd century BC, and are especially common on the sites in Asia Minor and Attica, but are also present on our sites as well. It can be assessed that the place of origin, production and development of the variations of this type of lamps was the territory of Ancient Macedonia from which the appellation "Macedonian type" was coined. These lamps date from the late 3rd century BC, the whole 2nd century BC, and are present as late as the first quarter of the 1st century BC.

Determined as earliest specimens according to the form, the material in which they were made and the glaze are the lamps in a more elegant manufacture and fine glaze. Classified as variation A, these are distinct by the black color, and a metallic shine and date from the end of the 3rd century BC, and early and first half of 2nd century BC.The variation B which is the most common type has a body equivalent in size of the nozzle. These lamps are executed with a fine glaze are usually red or brown in color, and date around about the middle of the 2nd century BC.The variation C is distinct by the reduction of the nozzle in relation to the body.

These types of lamps lose the handle on the right side, and generally were not colored, but were left in the baking color. They are characteristic for the second half of the 2nd century BC.The variation D is like the previous variation, however with a handle on the right side of the body. On these lamps the pouring hole for the oil is enlarged and the discus is nearly lost. Like in the previous variation the lamps are not colored and retain the baking color. This variation can be dated to the second half and the late 2nd century BC. The variation E is distinct for the last phase, the fabrication has a rough finish and is an indication for the termination of the type. This variation is characterized by enlargement of the wick section in relation to the body, as well as and the profile of the wick section, which has become wider in the middle and touches the surface on which the lamp sits.

Antonio Jakimovski

Hm....and these super lamps are supposed to prove that Hellenism never existed?
...Ambitious!

[1946-1949]

Antonio Jakimovski forgets to "shine the light" on the fact that the current Slavic race of peoples in Macedonia did not arrive until 600 AD.
This only highlights that the earlier indigenous Hellenic natives of this land would have had input into the design of these lamps.
If anything his article supports the Hellenistic culture of the area.

[Dejan]

Actually, all of us Macedonians have been trying to shine the light about the supposed fact of slavic migrations, but there doesn't seem to be enough light bulbs to shed any light on any evidence of such a migration. Maybe you yourself have one of those hard hats with a torch on it, and can point us to a single shred of evidence of a slavic migration. By the way, what's a 'slavic race'? And where do they originate from???

Мајмун...

[1946-1949]

By the way, what's a 'slavic race'?

A race of people that use the Proto Slavic language.

[Dejan]

So...a language on it's own determines a race of people?

[1946-1949]

I would not say that a language on its own determines a race.

[Dejan]

What about evidence of a slavic migration? Can you please point me in the right direction to find this stuff? Just a yes or no answer will do...

[1946-1949]

How about the Slavic migration and language that Alexander carried with him on his eastern travels.

[Dejan]

I don't get it? I just asked whether you can point me in the direction of the evidence to support your claim of a slavic migration? Can you?

[1946-1949]

Its obvious. How else could they have ended up in the European continent?

[Risto the Great]

Its obvious. How else could they have ended up in the European continent?

The first Slavs came from Mars to be precise.
And ... are you really that mental?