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  • Bratot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2855

    Documents of Macedonian Immigration

    As Macedonian immigrants arrived to U.S. they were living the full freedom od self determination.

    From the beginning of the I World War in 1914, the U.S.A. holded up a neutral position and managed to kept itself away being involved in the "Big War".

    But that position was abandoned in 1917, when 24 millions od American recruits were sent to participate in the war.

    Among those recruits were soldiers of Macedonian origin from Ohio.

    Facing the opportunity to declare themself as "Bulgarians" and to avoid the recruitation, they chosed to remain Macedonians, and gave their lives in the war.

    According to the proclamation of the President of the U.S.A., Woodrow Wilson, all man of German origin, including the allies of Germany, were declared as alienated enemies and were discharged from army service.

    So, Bulgaria as a German ally was included in this proclamation of the U.S. President. All man of Bugarian origin were released from the recruitation.

    These brave Macedonians, chosed to fight in this war along with the American troops, and to die only as MACEDONIANS

    PointOfInterest: 1924 State of MACEDONIA


    Last edited by Bratot; 09-24-2008, 01:05 PM.
    The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot
  • Royal Hellas
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 104

    #2
    What country does it say he was born in?

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    • Bratot
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2855

      #3
      Originally posted by Royal Hellas View Post
      What country does it say he was born in?

      Village of PODMOCANI, MACEDONIA.
      The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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      • Daskalot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 4345

        #4
        Bravo Brate, odlichno!!
        Macedonian Truth Organisation

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15660

          #5
          Excellent post Bratot.
          Welcome.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Dimko-piperkata
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1876

            #6
            Documents of Macedonian Immigration

            These are excerpts of documents from the Russian imperial government in 18th century AD, showing the presence of the Macedonian nation in imperial Russia's territory and military units.
            This is just another reply to all those who claim that the Macedonian nation is not Macedonian and that it has been "invented" within Yugoslavia.
            These documents (their sources are also given, for reference) clearly state that the Macedonian nation was mentioned as existing alongside the Serbian, Bulgarian and Vlach nations (but not as being a part of either of those) two centuries before Yugoslavia existed.

            Credits: http://www.gate.net/~mango/18thC_Russian_Docs.htm is the link where the images of these documents can be found.
            source


            YouTube - Macedonians in Russia in 18th century AD - Russian documents
            1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
            2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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            • Sarafot
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 616

              #7
              Here are some of them:

              Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
              - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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              • Daskalot
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4345

                #8
                here is more:




                please read it all......
                Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                • Sarafot
                  Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 616

                  #9
                  I thoth so.
                  Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
                  - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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                  • Sarafot
                    Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 616

                    #10
                    You can delete my post,sorry,i forgot about they were here also,sory.
                    Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
                    - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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                    • Daskalot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4345

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sarafot View Post
                      I thoth so.


                      The Macedonian regiment in Russia!

                      The author present the data about members of Serbian regiments in New Serbia, that is, Slavonic Serbia, who declared themselves as Macedonians. In Sevic’s regiment 74 persons declared that they came from the “Macedonian nation”. According to the Russian author Kabuzanov, in 1754 in New Serbia there were 2,225 persons, out of which 124 Macedonians.
                      In 1759 the Macedonian hussar regiment was formed. The commander of the regiment was Aleksij Kostjurin, and the supreme commander of all regiments was Jovan Horvat. According to the data from 1765–1769 out of the total of 271 merchants who were registered in the “Nezin Greek Fraternity”, 54 declared that they were from the “Macedonian province”, mostly from Kostur, Thessalonica, Vodena, Skoplje and Strumica.
                      The Macedonian regiment was terminated in 1773. The dislocated population adapted to the new environment and by the time passing they became ethnically assimilated.
                      Taken form “Preseljenitsi iz Makedonije u Rusko Tsarstvo sredinom 18. veka” by Milka Zdraveva, page 145.
                      Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                      • Thorvald
                        Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 145

                        #12
                        The Macedonian Diaspora

                        Significant Macedonian communities can also be found in the traditional immigrant-receiving nations, as well as in Western European countries. It should be noted that census data in many European countries (such as Italy and Germany) does not take into account the ethnicity of émigrés from the Republic of Macedonia:

                        Argentina: Many Macedonians of Argentina are the descendants of the "pečalbari" (seasonal workers) who came to Argentina in the early 20th century. Many decided to stay in Argentina setting up Macedonian colonies in the Pampas and other regions. Most Macedonians can be found in Buenos Aires, the Pampas and Córdoba. An estimated 30,000 Macedonians can be found in Argentina.

                        Australia: The official number of Macedonians in Australia by birthplace or birthplace of parents is 83,893 (2001). The main Macedonian communities are found in Melbourne, Geelong, Sydney, Wollongong, Newcastle, Canberra and Perth. (The 2006 Australian Census included a question of 'ancestry' which, according to Members of the Australian-Macedonian Community, this will result in a 'significant' increase of 'ethnic Macedonians' in Australia. However, the 2006 census recorded 83,983 people of Macedonian (ethnic) ancestry.)

                        Canada: The Canadian census in 2001 records 37,705 individuals claimed wholly or partly Macedonian heritage in Canada , although community spokesmen have claimed that there are actually 100,000-150,000 Macedonians in Canada

                        USA: A significant Macedonian community can be found in the United States of America. The official number of Macedonians in the USA is 49,455 (2004). The Macedonian community is located mainly in Michigan, New York, Ohio, Indiana and New Jersey.

                        Germany: There are an estimated 61,000 citizens of the Republic of Macedonia in Germany (mostly in the Ruhrgebiet) (2001).

                        Italy: There are 74, 162 citizens of the Republic of Macedonia in Italy (Foreign Citizens in Italy).

                        Switzerland: In 2006 the Swiss Government recorded 60,362 Macedonian Citizens living in Switzerland.

                        Romania: Ethnic Macedonians are an officially recognised minority group in Romania. They have a special reserved seat in the nations parliament. In 2002, they numbered 731.

                        Slovenia: Ethnic Macedonians began relocating to Slovenia in the 1950s when the two regions formed a part of a single country, Yugoslavia.

                        Other significant ethnic Macedonian communities can also be found in the other Western European countries such as Austria, France, Switzerland, Netherlands, United Kingdom, etc. Also in Uruguay, with a significant population in Montevideo.

                        Source:

                        https://germanictribes.proboards.com/
                        European preservation

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                        • Soldier of Macedon
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13675

                          #13
                          Welcome to the forum brother and thank you for that information.

                          You have a very interesting username, sounds like some Medieval warrior Thorvald, dobro ni doide, sho znachi toa?
                          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13675

                            #14
                            Germanic warrior?
                            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                            • Dimko-piperkata
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1876

                              #15
                              ne e nash, od holandija poteknuvat, imat makedonski drugari pa zatoa se zachleni ovde kaj nas.

                              prevod/übersetzung
                              habe ihm gerade nur geschrieben, dass du kein makedone bist sondern ein holländer der makeonische kollegen hat und du dich deswegen hier angemeldet hast.
                              1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
                              2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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