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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    I don't disagree with too much of the above. How recent is the term 'Turk'?

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  • Onur
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    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    but what am I to consider the Slavic-speaking peoples that invaded the Balkans 1,500 years ago and changed the political landscape? Those Slavs were most likely from places like today's Slovakia. Would that mean that I should list part Slovak as a contributing component?
    They changed demographics of central Europe and Balkans too.

    Everything started with Hunnic expansion to the west. The ancestors of most of the current western and eastern slavic speaking people was wandering around the north of Blacksea, from eastern Balkans to today`s Georgia (outside of Roman realm). When Hunnic expansion started, these people either joined them to fight against Romans or escaped from them by migrating in to the central Europe and Balkans. This was same with eastern Germanic tribes too.

    Slovak, Slovene, Czech, Serb, Bosnian... these terms are relatively new in world history. The ancestors of all these people are various Uralic/Altaic people, Germanic people and locals(if there was any, probably not in significant number), the mixture of all these. So, they were so-called barbarians from east, leftovers of Huns according to Romans.


    Btw, some of you might get offended because i said "mixture of Uralic/Altaic, Germanic and locals" but i don't say this to offend someone. I agree with Slovak Tomas, we can only know our ancestors of past ~3-4 generations but earlier times are usually unknown. Everyone is genetically related with their neighboring people to some degree cuz our current borders are result of recent events in world history. Before that, there no border, no ethnicity, no religion, not even marriages. This is something proven with DNA researches. Genetic researchers can estimate someones ancestral location in Europe within 100-200km of distance by analyzing his/her DNA, regardless of his language and nationality because nearly everyone is genetically related with their neighboring people.
    Last edited by Onur; 04-27-2011, 02:55 AM.

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  • George S.
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    I wonder how far back can one look up macedonian records go?? probably birts& deaths & marriages records???
    Last edited by George S.; 04-26-2011, 11:34 PM.

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  • George S.
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    My family tree tells me i can go back abot 300 years.I think to find out genetically who we are would be good.I don't know how much it costs??

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by Slovak/Anomaly/Tomas View Post
    Judging from my origin, I can list the following:
    Slovak (what I'm considered now)
    Hungarian (I'm aware to be 1/8th)
    Vlach
    Czech
    Polish
    Moravian
    Celtic
    Germanic
    Scytho-Sarmatian
    Dacian
    Pannonian
    Roman
    Interesting exercise. I think it requires further clarification though, for example, I would consider my ancestry as overwhelmingly Macedonian (completely Macedonian as far as records and memory go), but what am I to consider the Slavic-speaking peoples that invaded the Balkans 1,500 years ago and changed the political landscape? Those Slavs were most likely from places like today's Slovakia. Would that mean that I should list part Slovak as a contributing component?

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  • George S.
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    You know in the old days the women used to put grapes in the mouth of the king/god & giant feathers waving around making a breeze by beautiful scantilly clad damsels.

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  • Risto the Great
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    George, that is what I keep telling my wife. But she is yet to be convinced.

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  • George S.
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    YOu are a GOD RTG.

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  • Risto the Great
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    My blood is most definitely pure, although I did drink a fair bit of Tsing Tao last week.
    All my ancestors that I know of were Macedonian.
    Further back than that, I believe my family line has a connection to mount Olympus and had a penchant for floating on clouds.

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  • Delodephius
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    Your ancestry

    There are still people out there who believe in the existence of pure-blooded individuals or even entire nations. This is a myth, a delusion if you will, since all of us are a mixture of different bloodlines. We may not even know it. I tried and tried but I cannot find the article I read a year back ago that reported on, I think they were British, scientists who have proven that all humans are related much more closely than we would be lead to think by our traditional, still nationalistically founded, education. To put their discovery in simple terms I'll use their example: if you were to be sent back in time some 5000 years into the past, into any part of the Old World (Europe, Asia, Africa for us Old Worlders) the first person you would meet would most likely be your ancestor. If we were to speak of lets say an ordinary modern Macedonian, and let's say we send him 3000 years back into China, the first person he/she would meet would most likely be his/her ancestor. Sounds incredible? It appears to be true. People didn't marry just into their village, and they didn't just have three or four kids.

    But I digress. My original intent was to ask you what ancestry you have, i.e. what ethnicity your ancestors were? I'm not asking about a definite answer. We don't know who our ancestors were 2000 years ago and with whom they married. So just list who could theoretically be your ancestors.

    Judging from my origin, I can list the following:
    Slovak (what I'm considered now)
    Hungarian (I'm aware to be 1/8th)
    Vlach
    Czech
    Polish
    Moravian
    Celtic
    Germanic
    Scytho-Sarmatian
    Dacian
    Pannonian
    Roman
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