The Macedonian Cause

[TrueMacedonian]

RTG what if I took your words "it facilitates personal development and the pursuit of happiness." and added it to the following section;

Ensuring the Republic of Macedonia is a safe, stable, economically prosperous and abundant state, which cares and provides for the health and well-being of all its citizens; and provides all its citizens with opportunities for finding love, establishing a family, higher education, economic prosperity and overall positivity to facilitate personal development and the pursuit of happiness.

[Rogi]

Let's get this back into high gear.

[Prolet]

Too right Rogi

Its extremely important

I want to know where UMD stand with this and see their view on some of the suggestions given on this thread.

[Risto the Great]

Guys, I have had a go at distilling the cause into a few words. The reason will become clear very shortly.

Македонски Причина
име
народ
јазик
култура
симболи
историја
гордост

МАКЕДОНИЈА

I used Причина instead of Кауза. I am trying to avoid Englishisms. I would also like to replace симболи for the same reason if possible (Знак ???). Suggestions in relations to word choices, phrasing and any additional points are crucial and valued?

[Mikail]

How about:

dedication to Macedonia and Macedonia alone. No borders, no divisions, no oppressors dictating to us about what we should do. Macedonians and the Macedonian Nation foremost in our thoughts.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Znakoi or Znakovi is better than Simboli.

Instead of prichina how about delo?

[Risto the Great]

Македонскo Дело
име
народ
јазик
култура
знакови
историја
гордост

МАКЕДОНИЈА

Done.
Mikail, there is time for the words to flow. But I am after the key words that are dear to us. In English for the benefit of some:

Macedonian Cause
Name
People
Language
Culture
Symbols
History
Pride

MACEDONIA

[Prolet]

I must say this is probably one of my favorite topics on this forum, lets get it going again.

Risto, Can we add patriotism too? When you say History how far back are you willing to go?? From the Nikola Karev era, Kiril I Metodij era or from Filip II/Aleksandar Makedonski??

[Risto the Great]

Prolet, I would like to go back to the beginning of mankind.
I think patriotism is reflected in pride about all of the words that come before it i.e. Name People Language Culture Symbols History.
But want to hear more from everyone about this. C'mon guys, the core words please.

[indigen]

Guys, I have had a go at distilling the cause into a few words. The reason will become clear very shortly.


I used Причина instead of Кауза. I am trying to avoid Englishisms. I would also like to replace симболи for the same reason if possible (Знак ???). Suggestions in relations to word choices, phrasing and any additional points are crucial and valued?

Македонски Причина

This does not make grammatical sense (even to my limited competency in the field of Mak grammar).

Suggestion: The Macedonian Struggle = „Македонската борба“

Question: Why do we need to reinvent the wheel when it already exists? Why not use, adapt and/or help to update the 1993 WMC-SMK "Macedonian National Program"? As I remember, the 1993 WMC was well attended and had a wide representative base (quite a number of Macedonians from Australia were delegates and active participants at this historic assembly).

Македонска национална програма (СМК - 1993)

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2348

[Bill77]

Here's a few words,

Unity
Faithful
Respectful

[Prolet]

Prolet, I would like to go back to the beginning of mankind.
I think patriotism is reflected in pride about all of the words that come before it i.e. Name People Language Culture Symbols History.
But want to hear more from everyone about this. C'mon guys, the core words please.

Risto, You know how the old saying goes, only the SUN is older then Macedonia.

[Risto the Great]

Thanks indi.
борба sounds great to me. To be honest I just wanted to remove the English word. I thought the grammar was ok (not that I really know) but the word Причина was foreign to me anyway.

You are right. Nobody wants to reinvent the wheel. Your link has an excellent time-line of events. But give me 5-10 key words that spell out the cause in your mind. Your link does not really define it, merely provides a justification for having one.

[Risto the Great]

Here's a few words,

Unity
Faithful
Respectful

Unity works for me.

Македонска Борба
име
народ
јазик
култура
знакови
историја
единство
гордост

МАКЕДОНИЈА

[Prolet]

Bill, I like Unity its a very important word.

What about tollerance? Forgiveness is also another.