Can someone please answer the question?

[Risto the Great]

I am trying to keep you people here.
But you are so damn unlikeable.
If your logic is compelling, then you will remain.
If you just whinge, what is your purpose for being here?

[Delodephius]

Ok, I'm awake. And I see the old "hiding" card has been used on me. Oh well.

[Risto the Great]

Not sure what you mean SAT.

[Delodephius]

Well I just woke up after good night sleep and when I got to this forum I see TB saying I'm hiding, presumably because I'm not answering his last post, which I couldn't do because I was sleeping. This trick is used by people who don't really understand the works of forum discussions. I could have been killed for example but he would accuse me of running away from the discussion.

[Risto the Great]

Sleeping is for the weak.

[Delodephius]

Exactly. I guess when you discuss with Greeks you cannot afford that luxury.

[Truth Bearer]

So what do ya say RTG shall we start can u open a thread??That way we can all unlikeables stay in tyhat thread and argue and bitch tioll the cows come home.We can be civil or gutterfull depending which way you want the thread to go.I'm saying that because I know SoM will be the first to lose his head and abuse us.We establish rules that are fair for both sides.

[Risto the Great]

You actually are asking me to be allowed to be "gutterful" in a thread.

You make the assumption that we Macedonians care about your opinions at the best of times.
This is not Oprah.
Greeks respecting and being nice to Macedonians can go a long way. It has rarely been seen.

[Truth Bearer]

I'm not the one using gutter language RTG I'm just giving you a way out if some of yr guys lose their head or maybe some of my lads might also lose their head.I'm waiting for yr answer are we going ahead with an open thread debate?

[Truth Bearer]

It's not what I think or you it's got to do with learning from each other maybe we might find some loose middle ground maybe just maybe we might understand your plight as you might ours.Do you have the stomach for it RTG or will you succumb to yr prejudices and shy away?

[Svoliani]

In some small pockets in the south perhaps.

Grevena - all Greek speakers with a few Vlach villages
Voiou - from Epirus border(Eptahori) all the way to Siatista and Galatini all Greek speakers
Kastoria - the city itself and a few villages south like Vogatsiko and Dispilio were all Greek speakers
Kozani - the city itself all Greek speakers and also the villages south of the town like Krokos, Aiani, Servia, Velventos
Naousa - All Greek speakers
Katerini - All Greek speakers
Emathia plain - Alexandria , Meliki , Kolindros was called Rumlook by the Turks = place of Greeks.
Halkidiki - From Thessaloniki all the way to Ierissos you will find only Greek speakers all Dopious. Galatista, Polygyros, Arnea, Megali Panagia all native Greeks.
Serres - many Greek villages around Serres, Nigrita and Sidirokastro,
Kavala and Thasos - once again only Greeks

Small pockets? i dont think so. Greeks were the majority in what is today Greek Macedonia.

All these places mentioned the people are not Bilingual . Greek was their only language, spoken with an accent different from Greeks to the South.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Why didn't you people call Macedonia, Macedonia when you annexed it. Why did you instead choose the appropriate name The New Territories.

Why did you also have a Governor in this Occupied part of Macedonia, a governor indicates colonisation.

This one is from 1924:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,718771,00.html

"...Out walked Premier Papanastasiou (TIME, July 28) and in trotted Premier Sofoulis, ex-Governor of Macedonia, followed by five staunch supporters..."

Why does a governor indicate colozination?

[Daskalot]

This one is from 1924:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,718771,00.html

"...Out walked Premier Papanastasiou (TIME, July 28) and in trotted Premier Sofoulis, ex-Governor of Macedonia, followed by five staunch supporters..."

Why does a governor indicate colozination?

A governor is a colonial term.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Your Wikipedia talks of a 2% Greek population in Macedonia in 1881 as surveyed by the Turks.

Greeks were the minority. We all know this. But you attempt to cloud that matter.

Link?

We were the minority, and so were you. There was no overall majority in Macedonia back then. You are barely a majority in your own country even today, after you received so many people who got expelled from Greece...

[Petros Houhoulis]

You didn't understand my post. I said: "And the facts that show that Macedonia was mostly populated by Macedonians and not Greeks?" Why are you talking about facts that tell contrary to that? If they can be called facts that is.

Are you sure?

Let's check the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Macedonia#Ottoman_census_of_Hilmi_Pasha_for_the_region_of_Macedonia_.281906.29

[edit] Ottoman census of Hilmi Pasha for the region of Macedonia (1906)
Muslims (Turks and Albanians) 423,000 (41.71%)
Greeks 259,000 (27.30%)
Bulgarians 178,000 (18.81%)
Serbs 13,150 (1.39%)
Others 73,000 (7.72%)

No matter how you read or interpert the facts, the relative majority were the Muslims. The situation changed because of the population exchanges when the Muslims left for Turkey - no doubt about it - but still, this majority that you speak of is imaginary by all means.