The sound of ancient languages

[Delodephius]

You know who really wrote the Iliad and Odyssey? It was not Homer, but some guy with the same name.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Funny about that name 'Homer', is it related to the name used often by Islamic peoples, 'Omar'? Is it an Anatolian name?

[Delodephius]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_(name)

[Spartan]

From wiki-

Homeric Greek is the form of Ancient Greek that was used by Homer in the Iliad and Odyssey. It is an archaic version of Ionic Greek, with admixtures from certain other dialects, such as Aeolic Greek. It later served as the basis of Epic Greek, the language of epic poetry, typically in dactylic hexameter, of poets such as Hesiod. Unlike later forms of the language, Homeric Greek did not have available in most circumstances a true definite article. [1] Compositions in Epic Greek may date from as late as the 3rd century AD, though its decline was inevitable with the rise of Koine Greek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeric_Greek

If you scroll down the page it has a passage from the illiad translated to english by different people.
Its interesting

[Soldier of Macedon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_(name)

Nothing there bro.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Spartan, can we get a pargraph or two from Homeric Greek? From what you have seen, how does it measure up when reading it compared to modern Greek?

[Spartan]

Like night and day
I would need to take a course to understand the AG
It is obvious at first glance that it is Greek, and many of the words are the same, names as well obviously. I can read and pronounce every word(by MG standards) , but cant understand, apart from a sentence or word here and there.
I would have to think a course would be required to fully understand AG, even for the most fluent Greek speaker


Heres a link to the iliad in ancient Greek

http://www.ancientgreekonline.com/Iliad/Iliad.htm

and some original text-

[Demos]

I understand a fair amount of ancient Hellenic even though I am not an expert, nor a student of ancient Hellenic. I understand Byzantine Greek as well as it is the language of the liturgy in the Hellenic Orthodox Church.

The person speaking ancient Hellenic is not a Greek person, but a foreigner attempting to speak ancient Hellenic. He is doing a horrible job at the accent. He cannot even pronounce correctly most vowels.

This is Byzantine Greek which is totally understandable to me

YouTube - Greek Orthodox Christian Byzantine Music in AgSofia Kabarnos βυζαντινή μουσική

[Soldier of Macedon]

You can understand next to jack in ancient Greek, spoken is different from written, and the Greek of East Rome which your language is based on today after being butchered from all angles was not the same as the Greek of Homer.

[Dimko-piperkata]

Dimko, there is no such thing as a fake language. Shocking? Wake up, asshole!

first, when there are fake states, there are fake languages! get it once.

second, i do not insult u, why do u insult me ?

something to hide?
ill?
nervous?
shocked?
whats werong with u ?

[Delodephius]

There is no such thing as a fake state. It exists or it doesn't.

Just for curiosity, define "fake"?


And get over with the insults, little girl. I'll insult you no matter what, because in my opinion you deserved it.

[Dimko-piperkata]

last warning to u, @slovak...if u r going ahead to insulting me, then U start a war with me.

[Delodephius]

Whatever... Your on my ignore list.

[Risto the Great]

Dimko, you will be starting a war with a kid. Think about that.

SAT, your responses in this regard are beneath you and I am very confident you will not respond like that as you mature.

[Risto the Great]

For what its worth, I do not feel that it is a fake language. It WAS real 2000 years ago.
But it did not represent a natural development path due to being imposed on the various races of modern Greece 180 years ago. Dimko's meaning of "fake" refers to this imposition and the fact that it was a historical language that nobody spoke. Fair call IMO.