Lesser of 2 evils

[Redsun]

I thought he was already celebrating his position within option three.

Where is option four?

Is this democracy?

[Redsun]

Poll at the moment shows,

4 DPMNE
1 SDSM
10 Alcoholics

1 third of the amount would support the existing parties and DPMNE will regain power as they had recieved 4 times the amount of votes that SDSM received.

[Bill77]

Poll at the moment shows,

4 DPMNE
1 SDSM
10 Alcoholics

1 third of the amount would support the existing parties and DPMNE will regain power as they had recieved 4 times the amount of votes that SDSM received.

And majority don't give a flying f..k lol
If the MTO isn't a true representation of the Rep of Macedonia..... I don't know what is.

[Risto the Great]

The DPmNE fans should read this:

http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8751

[Pelagonija]

I voted for Zaev in order to back gockas theory regarding giving Zaev a go, though that's after I had two bottles of rakija.. lol

[Redsun]

option 4 was some Macedonian guy dancing on Facebook. But feel free to provide an alternative option.

Its too late to add another option now, the election is over.

I am curious about the "faith" that people put in the people that they elect, the comforting familiarity they feel with the existing parties.

You said it was a trick poll, we should of had an option that tested "faith".

What if a movement turned party became an actual option. How could they gain voter confidence?

Is it even possible for some young party to take on the reigns of a sleigh sliding down the wrong direction and turn the whole situation around when they don't have the experience? We will doubt them. How will they take over government, the length of the transition period.

I don't think the doubt on a new parties credentials and capability could ever be overseen, without questioning the faith people put into VMRO and DPMNE.

I'm sick of hearing things like when we reach the very very last straw then something will happen, no nothing will ever happen with this attitude in the end nothing will happen. This attitude conditions the person into becoming inactive. After constantly repeating this to oneself over a period of time, a point will be reached when the expectation of action will outweigh the thought of action. In the end you will have a an inactive zombie.

When are you running another poll? I'm curious, what would of happened if forum members entered this thread and were presented with a fourth option "New Macedonian party - very promising".

[Risto the Great]

It's a reasonable thought process Redsun. This was really a one or the other inquiry. Worthy of a separate discussion. Why not create a thread?

[Skolovranec]

RtG

I think the idea that Macedonians will learn something is too optimistic. I think they're too brain damaged to learn anything. They've had 25 years. That's the equivalent of going to school, uni and then doing a post-graduate course.

It'll be more of the same.

https://www.facebook.com/MKAUSPRIDE/videos/1499155693489088/

Couldn't resist posting this again

It took the Americans 300 years to get their shit together. As flawed as we think of them today, they were worse centuries ago. 25 years on the global scale of rise and fall of nations is practically infancy-length.

So it seems many Macedonians are devastated the SDSm and their band of gypsies have found a way to form a government. Personally, I felt a sense of sadness.

After some deep self reflection, I wondered if the disappointment I felt meant I must have preferred DPmNE and their band of fat thieving pigs running the country. So I am still processing this dilemma in a way.

I resent both parties for their demonstrated anti-Macedonism. If I have to be honest, I will say I felt the Macedonian identity was under less threat under DPmNE.

BUT .....

Given the hatred both SDSm AND DPmNE have for Macedonia, I have concluded that SDSm should be allowed to show Macedonians the full extent of its anti-Macedonian stance. The slow death under DPmNE will now accelerate under under these pigs.

Perhaps trying to kill a frog by bringing water to boil slowly under DPmNE might work out better for Macedonians when SDSm attempts to kill the frog by throwing it in molten lava. The frog might get a few burns, but it will try to escape in no uncertain fashion.

Maybe Macedonians will wake up and fully appreciate the severity of their oppression. It might be cause for, dare I say it, revolution.

What are your thoughts?

I'm answering this without having read all the other posts in the topic (I may do so afterwards), but the best thing that can happen to a sharpening political polarity that in practice seems like opposite sides of one coin is the introduction of a third (political) pole. A disruptive factor, for both sides.

I don't understand the specifics of what it takes to register a political party here in RoM, and even less what is the process of building that party up afterwards, and gaining influence and support from the people. Somebody more knowledgeable of this that understands the electoral law of RoM can perhaps chime in with some tech-xpertise.

What I have heard is, that in their own time as the ruling party, SDSM made it more difficult for new parties to register and build themselves up, including the division of electoral units etc., and DPMNE since assuming power in 2006 and onwards has only made it more difficult. Which speaks volumes about both of them IMO.

They are both afraid of honest, honorable and quality competition by somebody else entering the game and forcing one or both of them to change tactics in how they play the game onwards. They are not interested in fixing problems, especially long lingering issues, nor are they interested in an honest fight for political power by engaging in the marketplace of ideas and showing their face in the hall of fame or shame on past deeds/misdeeds. They just want to keep their fat paychecks and golden chairs, and steal from the people for as long as they can.