Recipe - Makalo

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  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    #16
    dp in australia we don't give a shit like you do in strumicawhether it's greek or macedonian we use the style.A lot of people from different races have bought their food over .The tsrtar sauce is used in seafood .We don't put dills or cucumber in it.WE use the tarur tsaziki greek style sauce for
    the souvlaki preparation.Its a promotional (style) we don't call it tartur or whatever.Food is food .People eat chinese food etc etc who cares maybe you do.You take it to heart.Do you eat tulumbi & turkish things or do you still harbor hate to the turks what they did the same as the greeks.What MS is asking is we constantly do it we put garlic in a blender with mayonaise sauce nothing else.ITS NOT a makalo as some have said its a DIP.You dip your chips or you put some on the food roast chicken.Any thing else you guys talk about is TOTALLY CRAP.I have worked for about 30 years in the FAST food industry i should know it.The garlic dip spread is given in a sachet about $1.50 its not a makalo it's a dip.You want a makalo,da makash with bread etc thats different.I have never heard macedonians mixing garlic to a paste in a blender with mayo in it.
    Last edited by George S.; 08-13-2013, 10:09 AM.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • Tomche Makedonche
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1123

      #17
      George,

      I think DedoAleko was simply trying to say that you should use the Macedonian term for Tsaziki, which is Taratur (yogurt, cucumber and garlic spread), just like similarly using the Macedonian term for skewered meat, being Razhnitsi (Ражници) would be preferred over using the Greek term Souvlaki, that’s all, just a bit of a misunderstanding, but regardless still all quite tasty
      “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        #18
        tom we are not talking of tartur.MS is talking about what he has seen in australia .I have never seen a sauce that is made in macedonia resmbling mayo with garlic blended.They don't have any of that in europe even .We have it at the lebo kebab shops ,charcoal chicken shops etc.Our closest is makalo you scoop with a piece of bread.The tzaki sauce is not the same only used on a souvlaki not the same.A dip is different you can dunk chips with your meal or spread it on your chicken.Nothing like this comes close in macedonia or europe.You can buy the dips in sachets for about $2.
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          #19
          Some of you guys don't know much about a makalo.I like to put the left over when you fry meat in a pan.Also when you fry pork or pork liver i like to get a crusty piece of bread & scoop up this tasty leftover in the pan.
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • Macedonian Sun
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 47

            #20
            Originally posted by George S. View Post
            tom we are not talking of tartur.MS is talking about what he has seen in australia .I have never seen a sauce that is made in macedonia resmbling mayo with garlic blended.They don't have any of that in europe even .We have it at the lebo kebab shops ,charcoal chicken shops etc.Our closest is makalo you scoop with a piece of bread.The tzaki sauce is not the same only used on a souvlaki not the same.A dip is different you can dunk chips with your meal or spread it on your chicken.Nothing like this comes close in macedonia or europe.You can buy the dips in sachets for about $2.
            Lol, macedonians love a good debate dont they .

            Actually george i saw it in ohrid not australia . Gocka, you're form ohrid, maybe you know of this white garlic paste I reminisce about?

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            • Niko777
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 1895

              #21
              But isn't Taratur more watery than Tzatziki? In Ag. Macedonia the word taratur no longer exists, everyone knows it by the name tzatziki and it's made with thick yogurt, olive oil, salt, cucumber.

              In my family "makalo" is anything you can dip your bread in.
              Most common makalo is one made with spinach and eggs.
              Another one I know of is similar to a gravy and served over fried sirenje or poached eggs.
              Last edited by Niko777; 08-13-2013, 09:16 PM.

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              • Tomche Makedonche
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1123

                #22
                Zdravo Niko,
                I think what we are going to find here are similar issues we find when encountering different Macedonian dialects. Quite simply, the same name is used to describe different dishes in different areas, for instance, the dish that Risto described earlier which he knows as Makalo, is what I know as Kasha (Каша) from where I’m from (we usually use chicken meat, though I have had it with rabbit meat as well, and my fathers side like to keep it more plain and not add any piper/paprika whilst my mother’s side add piper), however, I also know that in the villages about 10km west from where I’m from, Kasha is the name for an entirely different dish altogether there. I think when we use such a broad name as Makalo, which can basically be used to describe anything that you can Makaj (and from my experience we have heaps of dishes that you can makaj) it wouldn’t be unexpected to come across a number of different dishes which carry the same name. The dish called Makalo that I’m familiar with basically looks like milk with the primary ingredient being Garlic, it is not cooked in anyway, it’s usually served in a shallow bowl with Piperki (whole) laid inside. Its luto and you’re meant to dip your bread in it. I’ve also eaten the Makalo that Macedonian Sun has described when visiting western and north western Macedonian cities, over there it was more of a thick paste and from memory I think they just referred to it as Makal, however when I had it, we didn’t dip our bread in it, but spread it on pecheno meso. Both versions were absolutely delicious, unfortunately though I can’t say I know the recipes, the only thing I do know is that afterwards, a breath mint is essential before going na gosti
                “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15660

                  #23
                  I always understood Каша to be the name for Marijuana. It used to be boiled in water and fed to annoying (or sick) babies!
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • Bill77
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 4545

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Macedonian Sun View Post
                    No no, this stuff wasnt taratur or shitziki, it was just garlic flavoured, no meat, no veggies etc. I thought it might be something from the ohrid area
                    I know exactly what you mean. It is called Makalo which consists of Garlic, Yogurt, a bit of oil and a couple of whole hot chilies left floating inside the bowl to give the dip a hint of spice. Some restaurants even add crushed wall nuts (imo its pointless which does nothing to the flavour). I first tried it in Bitola and all I could say was wow after every piece of bread I dipped from the bowl and then shoved in my mouth. I recommend everyone to try it if they ever get an opportunity its amazing. For all Melbournians, the only restaurant that makes it is Sun And Moon in Reservoir.

                    The one RTG is talking about (flour and water) is also commonly known (mainly people from Egejskiot del) Makalo due to the actions performed when its eaten, but originally it was known as Kasha.

                    Taratur is something different all together. Unlike Makalo which if watery, Taratur is thicker. It's also nothing like Tzaziki in taste (well not the one I tried) its more like Tartar sauce (hence the name Taratur which must be something recently adopted by Macedonians) not very pleasant as a dip but alright on certain meats like fish.

                    My book will be coming out shortly. Lol

                    Called "GOL KUVAR"

                    It's tipped to out sell anyone of Jamie Oliver's books
                    Last edited by Bill77; 08-14-2013, 06:28 AM.
                    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                    • Phoenix
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4671

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                      ...My book will be coming out shortly. Lol

                      Called "GOL KUVAR"

                      It's tipped to out sell anyone of Jamie Oliver's books
                      That's gold Billy...some things just sound better in Macedonian...lol

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                      • George S.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10116

                        #26
                        I heard some people like the sauce so much they just buy the sauce.
                        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                        GOTSE DELCEV

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          #27
                          All i know in oz itz sold as a diiping sauce at takeaways.It's different to traditional sauce ketchupp,chillisauce dips.It's not a makalo as traditional macedonian makajne.One is dunking the other is scooping on a bread.Fried chillies hot cold with cheese tomato & eggs.
                          When is bill releasing his best seller book MS you could be the best promoter for it.Its finger dipping good i hear.Finger licking after you finish.I usually get the last bit of sauce out of the container & even lick the container
                          as well.So its tounge licking great mate.MS i'm not sure how it is in ohrid but in syd ney it's taken like a wild fire everybody wants it a far cry from chilli or other dips.I know for a fact at the takeaways people are asking for it.I can tell you when i was in the fast food business people ask you for the sauce you put in their burger in a small container to dip their chips etc you don't know what to charge them on the spur of the moment now we charge $1 to $2 per sachet.They got it from the americans and their ketchupp with that.People never asked for sauces in the early days now they all do.if you wanted to turn the makalo into a dipping sauce you would have to grind it into a sauce extraction using a blender but thats going froma makalo to a dipping sauce.MS happy dipping!
                          remember you asked for it!
                          Last edited by George S.; 08-14-2013, 05:07 PM.
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • Bill77
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4545

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                            some things just sound better in Macedonian...lol
                            Thats so true

                            Its fun translating word for word English to Macedonian.
                            Here is one which is a name of a person. Who am I talking about?

                            Nastrana gas? first name Zelezo? Lol
                            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                            • Phoenix
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4671

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                              Thats so true

                              Its fun translating word for word English to Macedonian.
                              Here is one which is a name of a person. Who am I talking about?

                              Nastrana gas? first name Zelezo? Lol
                              ...lol...with a name like that you could only play football for one side.

                              Imagine the shit Mr S.S. copped at school, what was going through the minds of his parents when they named him?

                              I was having this discussion with the missus one day while watching the footy, I asked her if 'Brass' Sidebottom, or perhaps 'Silver' or maybe even 'Tin' would have been better first name options if you really wanted that metallic vibe in the name or to ultimately humiliate your kid in his formative years...the nicknames could have been so much better, rolling off the tongue like 'Brass Arse', 'Silver Bum' or my favourite...and in keeping with most Collingwood players...'Tin Arse'
                              Last edited by Phoenix; 08-15-2013, 03:51 AM.

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                              • Bill77
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 4545

                                #30
                                Phoenix

                                This is a true story and I still piss my self every time I think of it.

                                A little while ago, I paid visit to a great aunt of mine who was in hospital at the time.
                                Her grandson became a father not long before that. Her grandsons partner was an Aussie so by the looks of things, she had the only say in naming the baby as they named their new son a Anglo name "Clay"

                                My baba's reaction when she was explaining it to me was priceless.

                                QUOTE: Shto e ova decata shto prat. Za grevota go vikat deteto Klaj.
                                Klaj e ko kje mu Kazish na nekoj...... "Klaj go chashata na masa" ili "Klaj si pantolonite"

                                Another funny story was at a wedding. A old lady sitting next to us telling us about her grandson naming his son "Karl"

                                QUOTE: lele go vikat fnukmi "kal" sinkir valkan daje
                                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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