Serbs singing Macedonian Songs

[Coolski]

I've come across quite a few Serb singers that sing old Macedonian folk songs. I'm curious if they're doing so with the mindset of loving and respecting Macedonian history and culture, or viewing it as a subset of Serbian culture. I would love to think that the first of the two options is reality, but I fear the majority of the time it isn't.

Eg. Vasilisa. She had a song "Oblak" which was featured on the famous compilation "Buddha Bar"

I've seen this information on various videos, which i think has been taken from her website
"On that album she performs old folk and ethno Serbian songs from Kosovo and Metohia and Macedonia." Serbian songs from Macedonia? I don't think so!

So maki sum se rodila
Vasilisa - So Maki - YouTube

Zajdi Zajdi
Vasilisa - Zajdi, Zajdi - YouTube

Oj ovcarce
Vasilisa - Oj Ovcarce - YouTube

Ceca- Zajdi Zajdi
CECA - Zajdi zajdi ( u zivo) - YouTube

Jelena Tomasevic- Sudbo Moja
Jelena Tomasevic- Sudbo moja, sudbino - YouTube

I'd be interested to know what these Serbian singer's opinions/statements indicate with regards to the people and culture to which these songs belong.

[Zarni]

Is that why Ohrid and Prilep love Serbian Pop Culture garbage so much

[ProMKD]

Who knows why, probably because they're just great songs. Or it's a business move, a smart one. When ceca sand Zajdi Zajdi live in Struga a few years ago, the crowd went insane. People are too easy

[Big Bad Sven]

Who knows why, probably because they're just great songs. Or it's a business move, a smart one. When ceca sand Zajdi Zajdi live in Struga a few years ago, the crowd went insane. People are too easy

Did tears of joy come rolling down your cheeks that amazing moment?

[Niko777]

If we made a thread called Macedonians singing Serbian songs, this forum would crash from an overload

[Risto the Great]

If we made a thread called Macedonians singing Serbian songs, this forum would crash from an overload

Indeed, please don't.

[Coolski]

There are quite a number of Serbian and other ex-Yu singers that sing Macedonian songs.

I am just curious as to whether or not they're singing them with respect to the Macedonian culture from which the songs stem, or if they're singing them thinking it belongs to Serbian culture. I think it's important to figure this out, because unlike the turbopop that comes out of Serbia and Bosnia, replicated and mimmicked in Macedonia, these old Macedonian folk songs are much more precious and valuable on a national level. I have a feeling that most of the singers have the right intentions, but I am a little suspicious when artists promote themselves as traditional Serbian folk singers sing Macedonian songs and speak of singing Serbian songs from Serbia, Montenegro, Kosovo and Macedonia! I find this important because I think our traditional music is at the core of our culture.

I think it might also be a chance to show all the turbo-zombies that:

1. if our songs are being misrepresented as serbian, it is an offence, triggering a shift against listening to the artists that are committing these offences.

2. if our songs are trully being respected by these singers, it may trigger more pride in the turbo-zombies, because even their turbo-heroes see value in them as Macedonians and not ex-yu zombies.

[ProMKD]

Did tears of joy come rolling down your cheeks that amazing moment?

Huh? Did you read my post properly?

[Daniel the Great]

Here is the Macedonian song Jovano Jovanke sung by a Serbian singer, Zeljko Joksimovic. I think he does it pretty well.

Zeljko Joksimovic- Jovano, Jovanke - YouTube

In my opinion, Serbs do respect that the Macedonian songs they are singing belong to the Macedonian people. It is the Bulgarians that take our songs and tag them as Bulgarian.

[DemirHisarski_Vojvoda]

I think the serbs sing these Macedonian songs presenting them as serbian songs with a 'serbian dialect from southern serbia'. Just like bulgarians sing Macedonian songs presenting them as bulgarian songs. They are just stealing our uniqueness as a people and our rich music culture.
I hear alot of people saying "its only music its ok, we shouldnt mix music with politics" but its not the case, serbs and bulgars do mix music with politics and it is very clear.
Its a shame so many Macedonians (especially in Republic of Macedonia) listen to more serbian and bulgarain music than they do Macedonian, its really disapointing to see a fellow macedonian cheering on, listening and singing music of enemies that have occupied Macedonain lands and discriminate us and clearly have no respect for Macedonia and Macedonians.
Serbs just consider Macedonians as 'southern serbs' who speak a 'serbian dialect' and consider us traitors (although it is not made public and most serbs will say thats not the case) and backstabbers to a serbian cause. They dont even recognise our Macedonian Orthodox Church for christs sake! but have the nerve to say " we are orthodox brothers we should stick together" well Macedonias biggest enemies are orthodox so where is the othodox brotherhood?
But again you get people saying "its ok its only music, dont mix music with politics". yeah alright lets try not to. what is more important music or religion? i would have to say religion and i think most people would agree. So why dont Macedonians just go and pray and have ceremonies in serbian or bulgarian churches ? Its only religion right ??????
But is fine to listen to serbian and bulgarian music because its only music right ??????
So all you Macedonians that have that soft spot and get lured by that serbian bullshit music you might as well just start speaking serbian and start belonging to the serbian orthodox church.
Music influences people so be very carefull. But each to their own.

[ar_makedon armageddon]

I think the serbs sing these Macedonian songs presenting them as serbian songs with a 'serbian dialect from southern serbia'. Just like bulgarians sing Macedonian songs presenting them as bulgarian songs. They are just stealing our uniqueness as a people and our rich music culture.
I hear alot of people saying "its only music its ok, we shouldnt mix music with politics" but its not the case, serbs and bulgars do mix music with politics and it is very clear.
Its a shame so many Macedonians (especially in Republic of Macedonia) listen to more serbian and bulgarain music than they do Macedonian, its really disapointing to see a fellow macedonian cheering on, listening and singing music of enemies that have occupied Macedonain lands and discriminate us and clearly have no respect for Macedonia and Macedonians.
Serbs just consider Macedonians as 'southern serbs' who speak a 'serbian dialect' and consider us traitors (although it is not made public and most serbs will say thats not the case) and backstabbers to a serbian cause. They dont even recognise our Macedonian Orthodox Church for christs sake! but have the nerve to say " we are orthodox brothers we should stick together" well Macedonias biggest enemies are orthodox so where is the othodox brotherhood?
But again you get people saying "its ok its only music, dont mix music with politics". yeah alright lets try not to. what is more important music or religion? i would have to say religion and i think most people would agree. So why dont Macedonians just go and pray and have ceremonies in serbian or bulgarian churches ? Its only religion right ??????
But is fine to listen to serbian and bulgarian music because its only music right ??????
So all you Macedonians that have that soft spot and get lured by that serbian bullshit music you might as well just start speaking serbian and start belonging to the serbian orthodox church.
Music influences people so be very carefull. But each to their own.

By far the best post to date on MTO.

[George S.]

I just laugh when they try to sing stani mome da zaigrash.With their stupid dialest or the bulgarians.The serbs steal arabic tunes & give them the upbeat tempo.A lot of people want to hear serbian songs because of the uptempo faster pace of the music.Plus who knows why the facination of serb pr bulgarian music probably embracing something different.
When i went to macedonia i was shocked people have vast serbian music collections.
I would also like to say it could also be the slave mentality that's driving to serbian music.

[Čento]

Serbian copy.

Bora Spuzic Kvaka - Navali se Sar planina - YouTube

[George S.]

Funnee i reckon some songs are only meant to be sung in macedonian.But the serbs are there trying to capitalise everything.
Jow abou makedonsko devojce kitka sarena.I heard bulgarians trying to sing golema svadba.

[Risto the Great]

I think the serbs sing these Macedonian songs presenting them as serbian songs with a 'serbian dialect from southern serbia'. Just like bulgarians sing Macedonian songs presenting them as bulgarian songs. They are just stealing our uniqueness as a people and our rich music culture.
I hear alot of people saying "its only music its ok, we shouldnt mix music with politics" but its not the case, serbs and bulgars do mix music with politics and it is very clear.
Its a shame so many Macedonians (especially in Republic of Macedonia) listen to more serbian and bulgarain music than they do Macedonian, its really disapointing to see a fellow macedonian cheering on, listening and singing music of enemies that have occupied Macedonain lands and discriminate us and clearly have no respect for Macedonia and Macedonians.
Serbs just consider Macedonians as 'southern serbs' who speak a 'serbian dialect' and consider us traitors (although it is not made public and most serbs will say thats not the case) and backstabbers to a serbian cause. They dont even recognise our Macedonian Orthodox Church for christs sake! but have the nerve to say " we are orthodox brothers we should stick together" well Macedonias biggest enemies are orthodox so where is the othodox brotherhood?
But again you get people saying "its ok its only music, dont mix music with politics". yeah alright lets try not to. what is more important music or religion? i would have to say religion and i think most people would agree. So why dont Macedonians just go and pray and have ceremonies in serbian or bulgarian churches ? Its only religion right ??????
But is fine to listen to serbian and bulgarian music because its only music right ??????
So all you Macedonians that have that soft spot and get lured by that serbian bullshit music you might as well just start speaking serbian and start belonging to the serbian orthodox church.
Music influences people so be very carefull. But each to their own.

I agree. Sometimes you have to take a principled stance. Whilst it seems strange we are talking about music, it extends beyond that for the reasons pointed out above.