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  • Brian
    Banned
    • Oct 2011
    • 1130

    Originally posted by EgejskaMakedonia View Post
    That wasn't my intention at all Brian, honestly.

    Regardless of whether you like rap or not, your views towards the illuminati are somewhat in sync with the former rapper.

    Some believe he was killed by them.
    I know, I was saying it tong-in-cheak.

    He was, and this is a good lead-in to my later intent to expose the illuminati negative influence in both the music and movie industry and their influence on society, but I'll save that for later.

    First we need to know who the illuminati are and what their agenda is.

    The illuminati are not just 1 front. We know the Freemasons but there's also the Golden Dawn (I mean the majical society, I don't know if the Greek one mentioned on MTO is affiliated with them but it wouldn't surprise me with a common name, by the way does anyone know of any symbols they use), ect, but also less 'secret societies' like the New Age Hippies, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses, Jesuits/Catholics and others. They profess Christ but he means something else to them.

    I have NO apologies or sympathies to any member or readers who are of these faiths - there's no time for sympathies - all I'll say is wake up!, they're satanists!, and do some research, here's a start.

    Exposing The New Age Agenda [One World Religion]
    Exposing The New Age Agenda [One World Religion] - YouTube
    Notice in the video these very interesting points

    1.21:23 re Benjamin Creme
    "...has become the priciple source of information about the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher."
    1.21:30
    "In 1982 his Tara Centre organisation took out full page advertisements in major papers world-wide declaring that "The Christ Is Here Now."
    Revitalised Christian Churches as well as masonic lodges will be used for purposesof giving mass planetary initiations."

    This is interesting because in
    Luke 3:23 that Jesus was "about 30 years of age" at the start of his ministry.
    Note 1982 is 30 years from 2012.
    A need for a Koleden all of 1982?
    Prince William was born on 21 June 1982. This has fueld speculation on the Net that he is the one.
    Last edited by Brian; 04-24-2012, 09:43 AM.

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    • Brian
      Banned
      • Oct 2011
      • 1130

      Originally posted by Brian View Post
      First we need to know who the illuminati are and what their agenda is.

      The illuminati are not just 1 front. We know the Freemasons but there's also the Golden Dawn (I mean the majical society, I don't know if the Greek one mentioned on MTO is affiliated with them but it wouldn't surprise me with a common name, by the way does anyone know of any symbols they use), ect, but also less 'secret societies' like the New Age Hippies, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses, Jesuits/Catholics and others. They profess Christ but he means something else to them.
      The first video discredits the above religions and exposes their NWO/satanic agenda.

      This video goes further more specifically into the Roman Catholic Church - note Catholic means universal and does this sound like the NWO one religion agenda?

      If you are Catholic by no means am I saying you are evil (you could be but that's beside the point) only that the Catholic Church is evil and you need to quickly do some of your own research.

      The UN and the Occult Agenda Freemasonry Deceived and Conquered
      The UN and the Occult Agenda Freemasonry Deceived and Conquered - YouTube

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        50 Awful Things About The Illuminati

        By Steve Jackson

        There are many Illuminated groups, with different kinds of secret knowledge. Anything you might say about them (including this) will be false for some of the Illuminati, but true for others, which only adds to the confusion and mystery.
        The Illuminati infiltrate and take over organizations of all kinds, from churches to the post office to the corner grocery store, and turn them to their own ends.
        And, just as a black joke, some of their subject organizations advertise themselves as Secret Societies.
        They have agents and "sleepers" planted everywhere. Many of these people have no idea who they are really reporting to. Others are active members of the conspiracy, working their way ever deeper into the fabric of society.
        They control the schools in order to make sure that young people learn to enjoy strange tuneless music and weird outlandish games, and that they dress oddly.
        They also try to recruit the best and the brightest young people as agents, to insure the next generation of the Conspiracy.
        They constantly feud among themselves and war with other groups and organizations. Each group of Illuminati is constantly striving to increase its power base and undermine the competition.
        Their first means of dealing with opposition is to buy it off. To any group as rich as the Illuminati, a few million dollars are nothing.
        Next they try threats. Danger to possessions, status or loved ones has dissuaded many a would-be foe of Illuminati schemes.
        And, of course, murder is an ancient political weapon. The Illuminati have been responsible for some of the most shocking assassinations of modern times.
        They also replace people with doubles. For many years they recruited look-alikes who would serve their ends. Now they are perfecting cloning technology that will let them replace anybody.
        Those who can't be dealt with any other way are discredited or driven mad.
        The Illuminati conspiracy is hundreds, if not thousands, of years old. Many of the most famous names of history have been Illuminated, or Illuminati agents. Indeed, all of history is nothing more than an outside view of the schemes and struggles of the Illuminati.
        And, of course, the Illuminati are constantly rewriting history to serve their own goals. For instance, modern schoolchildren are taught that there is no historical evidence of Jesus Christ, and they learn nothing about the Russo-German War or the state of Arcadia.
        They control the news media, so you hear what they want you to about today's news. Any event that doesn't fit in with their program will be quickly hushed up.
        In particular, they control television. They don't permit intelligent shows to survive; they encourage mind candy that will keep people from thinking. The only reason good shows are permitted to appear at all is to convince intelligent people that nobody else likes such material, and that there must be something wrong with them.
        The Illuminati manipulate the stock market and control currencies on an international level. Your paycheck is worth just what the Illuminati want it to be.
        Likewise, the entire "energy crisis" is an Illuminati invention. There's no shortage of energy, of a dozen different kinds, but plentiful free energy might threaten the Illuminated power base.
        The Illuminati are doing their best to hold back the space program, for the same reason. If mankind was spread out through the solar system, they'd be much harder to control. [Not all the Illuminati agree on this. Some of them lust after the mineral wealth of space, and some want (literally) new worlds to conquer.
        And some of them are in touch with aliens from outer space. Some of them ARE aliens. Why would "advanced beings" want to meddle with the affairs of Earthlings? Good question.
        Worse, some of them have actual magical powers and are in league with forces from . . . elsewhere. Great huge beings that are madness to look upon, or tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners. They have pins and dolls; they know old names.
        Other Illuminati have embraced technology. Their files of information are much more useful when backed by the power of the computer. They are also conditioning everyone to believe that computers are so complicated and dangerous that only the Experts should play with them. Next time you get an electric bill for $666,666.66, you know who's behind it.
        And some of these technophiles have gone a step farther, creating actual machine intelligences. These sentient computers are now, themselves, a force amoung the ruling Illuminati.
        The Illuminati don't like war; it's expensive and wasteful. War only happens when two groups of Illuminati are very evenly matched and neither is willing to negotiate. But then they whip a few nations into a patriotic fervor and go at it.
        They send secret messages through the newspapers and airwaves – in the classified ads, and even buried in news reports. They have other, even stranger forms of secret communications . . . all around you, all the time.
        They keep everyone – yes, everyone – under constant surveillance. Every time you fill out another questionnaire, you're weaving another strand of the net that binds the world.
        They are working to make the law as confusing as possible, so everything will be illegal or potentially illegal – then they have a hold on everybody and everyone will fear the laws.
        They encourage resistance to authority among young people and political dissidents, to distract government attention from the real enemy within.
        But when they reach a satisfactory level of control, they turn their efforts toward extinguishing independence and encouraging mindless obedience to whatever orders come from the Illuminati or their servants.
        They commit random atrocities – poisoning food at grocery stores, murdering old blind ladies, sniping on the freeway – just to make people vaguely confused, frightened and paranoid.
        They suppress inventions which might change the status quo. The 100-mile-a-gallon carburator, the perfect contraceptive, and the cornucopia plant are all lying in Illuminati vaults, waiting for the day when it will suit the Secret Masters to release them. What happened to the inventors? Bought off, intimidated, or just vanished.
        On the other hand, they also maintain secret laboratories where they develop new weapons and devices of all kind.
        Their arcane investigations cause all sorts of mysteries. Ever wonder about the Loch Ness Monster? The "cattle mutilations?" The Oregon Crud.
        And they require hundreds of human victims every year for their experiments. Ever wonder why there are so many Missing Persons reports, and why so few of those people are found.
        They are constantly experimenting with new types of mind control. They put drugs in drinking water, flash subliminal messages during movies and TV shows, and play instructions that you can't quite hear over supermarket loudspeakers. They experiment with microwaves and ultra-low-frequency devices, too.
        And every wire in your house is a potential pathway for Illuminati messages, attacks or controlling rays. Did you ever stop to think just how many wires lead to your house? And do you have any idea where they really come from?
        Naturally, they discourage investigation of the strange and unusual, because it might lead to them. But they encourage people to joke about the Illuminati.
        They also publish supermarket tabloids, just to make sure that everybody thinks "Hitler's Brain Is Alive!" and "Bigfoot Seen In Hawaii" are just jokes.
        And they encourage the craziest pseudo-science "researchers" they can find, because this tends to discredit legitimate investigators into the unusual.
        A popular belief is that the Illuminati want power for its own sake. This is true of some of them. But other Illuminated groups exist to support an ideology, to achieve a particular goal, or simply to oppose some other group of Illuminati.
        One of their chief preoccupations is life extension by any means possible. Nobody who has held ultimate power for fifty years is eager to let it go. Anything you can think of . . . yoga, cryonics, body-exchange, magic, cloning, goat (or other) glands, transfusions, computerized personality duplication . . . has been tried by the Illuminati at one time or another. And some of them work.
        Furthermore, powerful Illuminati from past centuries lie waiting to be revived when science allows it. Mummies, pickled corpses, frozen bodies, conscious brains in jars . . . you would recognize the names if we could mention them.
        You're not cleared for this one.
        They use disease as a weapon to discipline their own populations or destroy competing ones. Black Death in Europe, smallpox among the American Indians . . . The swine flu, a few years ago, was thwarted by opposing forces, or you probably wouldn't be reading this.
        They have a variety of unhuman and inhuman servants. The dreaded Men in Black are perhaps their best-known agents. No one knows whether the MIBs are androids, golems, or something even worse. Perhaps they were once human . . .
        And they really are breeding a Master Race. The Nazis had no idea how they were being used, or why. And they'd be horrified at the Illuminati's idea of perfection.
        The Illuminati know weird sexual techniques undreamed of in the Kama Sutra. They also know why those techniques are used.
        The next time you spend too much money to buy something you didn't want or need, and it breaks in a week, you can be sure you've just contributed to an Illuminati fund-raising project.
        They start chain letters. They also plant rumors that the Red Cross can buy an iron lung if you send them a million cigarette packages, and that dying children in England want ten million business cards. No one knows why they do this.
        Fnord.
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          senior member of the Illuminati breaks his silence for the first time.
          The Illuminati's secret religion.

          How to Become God
          The Illuminati
          Conspiracy Theories explained
          The Old World Order
          Mass Mind Control
          The Sick Society
          Adam Weishaupt
          The Last Man
          François de Nomé
          Zion
          Nibiru
          The Female Conundrum
          Common questions
          Meritocracy
          Ayn Rand
          Christ the Deceiver
          Illumination
          The Leibniz Riddle
          Double Agent? Madman?
          The Enigma of Existence
          The Strangest Truth?
          Do you have Free Will?
          Alienation
          Master and Slave
          Leviathan
          Did an “Angel” Create Earth?
          God
          The End of History
          The Secret History
          Goldman Sachs
          Robinson and Barruel
          What is it?
          Illuminati Jesuits?
          Hegel and Hermeticism
          Illuminati Degrees
          The Illuminati Network
          The Panopticon
          Supriem Rockefeller
          The Movement
          Encountering God
          The Right Brain God?
          Selling Your Soul
          Sin for Salvation
          The Mind War
          Soul Contact
          The Hero Program
          Etidorhpa and David Lindsay
          Hinduism and Buddhism
          Exodus
          M and M Rising
          Dream Gnosis
          The Day of Rage
          The Mithras Deception
          The Jesus Myth
          The Jesus Plot
          Unenlightenment
          Identity Crisis
          Golgonooza
          The Bloodline Code
          The Satan Plan
          Outsiders
          The Divine Suicide
          9/11 Revisited
          The Genesis Singularity
          The Celestial Human
          Goldman Sucks
          The Quintessence
          The God Within
          Mysterium Tremendum
          Phoenix Resurgam
          Escape Velocity
          The Perfect Game
          Philosophia Teutonica
          Mammon Ascendant
          The Imaginary Dimension
          Zero and Infinity
          The Incompleteness Theorem
          The Taking Of The Liberty Bell
          Beyond Good and Evil
          The Great Chain of Being
          The Great Chain of Being (II)
          Reverse Christmas
          The God Program
          The God Program II
          The New World Order
          Paradigm Shift (I)
          Paradigm Shift (II)
          Sex for Salvation I
          Sex for Salvation II
          Sex for Salvation III
          The Trial of God
          Sheol
          The Triune Brain
          Benjamin Fulford
          Curtain Call
          The Final Curtain
          The Last Post
          Psychopathology of "Anonymous"
          The Meritocracy Party

          Can you tell us what position you hold in the Illuminati?
          I'm part of the 12-man Ruling Council. There are five Americans, five western Europeans, one Russian and one Indian. We have members in every country of the world, but there are fewer than 6,000 of us in total.

          People say that the Illuminati are exceptionally wealthy. Is that true?
          It's true that all twelve members of the Ruling Council are wealthy, but money, for us, simply funds our mission, nothing else. We are not worshippers of Mammon, as our accusers would have you believe. [In fact, most of what could be called the "wealth" of the Illuminati is in the form of priceless treasures, not "liquid" money. Some members of the Illuminati have acquired considerable wealth; most are not wealthy.]

          Are you intent on creating a New World Order?


          The blunt answer is yes, but not in the way our enemies claim. We are liberators.
          Liberators of what?

          Of the human race. That's our mission. To set humanity free from…sorry I must stop there.

          Excuse me, why do you have to stop?

          I was in danger of saying too much. I'm afraid I can't speak freely, given the nature of the secret the Illuminati are protecting, and the power of our enemies.
          Are your enemies people like David Icke? Is he exposing your conspiracy?

          We are conspirators, yes, but our conspiracy is entirely benevolent. David Icke is not an enemy of the Illuminati. He says many things with which we agree. His problem is that he has not correctly identified the true enemy. His enemy is the same as ours, but he does not understand their real nature and purpose. His lizard theory is of course preposterous and discredits all of the many sensible things he says. It's most unfortunate that a clever man has played into the hands of our mutual enemy by presenting incredible theories that no rational person could take seriously.

          What do you mean by "mutual enemy"?

          Icke makes many perceptive observations, but he erroneously calls the enemy the Illuminati and the New World Order and so forth. In fact, the enemy is the Old World Order - the people who have been in charge from the very beginning. They have no need to change anything because the world is already dancing to their tune. Their tyrannical dynasties have stridden the world stage for millennia. The last thing they want is a new world. Icke is correct when he identifies royal families, presidents, prime ministers, bankers, media barons, top business executives and so on as the enemy. He is wrong to call them the Illuminati. We are the very people who are waging the fiercest war against the enemy, trying to stop them choking the human race to death. We are the last and only hope for humanity. Everyone who opposes a New World Order is deluded - having swallowed the deceptions of the enemy - or is actively in the service of the powers that be: the Old World Order.
          Why are you breaking your silence at this time? And why did you choose to speak to me?

          We chose you because you have a reputation for impartiality, fair reporting and protecting your sources. It's true that we are a highly secretive organisation, but people misunderstand our secrecy. There are those who are secretive because they are part of a conspiracy to control, manipulate and oppress others. And there are those who are secretive because they wish to conceal themselves from those who would do them harm. Our enemy wishes to destroy us, and for that reason we must maintain our secrecy. Our enemy is very powerful and always searching for us. Our enemy has promoted the myth that we are somehow running the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are in hiding. We always have been. We are breaking our silence because every now and again, when we judge the time is right, we try to communicate our ideas in coded form to those with ears to listen. We are always looking to recruit those who are still free. The number is shrinking all the time.

          What do you mean by "those who are still free"?

          Sorry, I can't expand on that. Let me just say to you that we tried twice in the past to show a coded glimpse of the nature of our great secret. You have probably heard of the most mysterious manuscript in the world - the Voynich manuscript. No one has ever been able to decode it. The men who wrote it were members of the Illuminati and they were captured and killed before they could release the key to decoding it. The Arthurian legends were our other main attempt to enter popular consciousness and reveal our true purpose. They succeeded to an extent, but our enemies were able to confuse our message by releasing alternative versions of the legends. So, now we are trying again.

          In what way?

          The Arthurian legends were imaginative fictions that alluded to the secret we are protecting…the Holy Grail, if you will. We prefer this fictional approach because it allows us to conceal the truth from our enemies. They are unable to distinguish between the fact and the fiction. But those who have ears for our message - they will learn the truth.

          So, you have created new coded "legends"?

          In a manner of speaking. We hired a successful ghost-writer to create four coded 'novels' for us that would outline our purpose. The chosen writer was handsomely rewarded and sworn to secrecy. But…

          I apologise for pausing for so long. Let me just say that he will not be writing the fourth and final part. I am not permitted to tell you any more than that. We are seeking a new ghost-writer to complete the task.

          Did your enemies find the writer? Did they harm him? Or recruit him, perhaps?


          I cannot comment on any of that.

          The three completed novels are attributed to "Mike Hockney". Is that a pseudonym?


          Yes.
          On other pages of this website there are videos featuring the voices of several people. Are they members of the Illuminati?

          No, certainly not. They work for a progressive, unconventional advertising agency that the Illuminati have used on occasion. Their brief was simply to advertise our novels in a non-threatening, almost amusing way. We think they have done a reasonable job. [These videos have been removed: the site is now maintained by three Seventh Degree members of the Illuminati. The sites that were depicted in the videos are of special significance to the Illuminati.]

          Are you claiming that the three novels partially reveal a great secret?

          Yes. Let me be perfectly clear. The three novels are called "The Millionaires' Death Club", "Prohibition A" and "The Armageddon Conspiracy". The fourth novel in the series (to be called "The Soul Camera") will complete the revelation of the entire secret. But only for those with eyes to see, of course.

          I have read all three novels. I saw no real connection between them.

          Then you have not 'seen'. The task is not an easy one. You must be enlightened to perceive our secret.

          "The Armageddon Conspiracy", in particular, seemed to hint at something truly extraordinary.

          The writer went too far in this case. He disobeyed our brief and added elements that we had never intended. But, we must confess, he perhaps performed a great service for us. This book is the one that comes closest to revealing our precise secret.

          Why can't you just tell us your secret? Why all of this cloak and dagger stuff?

          If you knew what the secret was, you would understand perfectly. Let me just say that the secret, if revealed to the whole world at one moment, would lead to an unimaginable cataclysm. The very thing we most seek to protect would be destroyed. Everything we have worked for over many millennia would be lost.

          That sounds like an incredible secret.

          It would be better for me if I knew nothing of this secret. My entire life revolves around it. I have had to live a constrained, fearful life because of it. All of us in the Illuminati have had to live this way. Some secrets are great burdens. This is the greatest burden of all.

          I really don't know what to make of what you have told me. You must realise it sounds odd.

          That can't be helped. I wish the secret weren't true. I wouldn't believe it myself if I hadn't seen the evidence.

          Why don't you reveal the evidence? Then we will all be convinced.

          The evidence automatically reveals the secret. Therefore I cannot reveal the evidence. Only new members of the Illuminati are shown the evidence.

          Is someone like me allowed to join the Illuminati?

          Any suitable person can join. But to prove that you are suitable involves a long and arduous process. We must ensure that the enemy does not infiltrate us. It would be a catastrophe for the human race if the enemy discovered our secret.

          I am intrigued. But I'm not sure I'd want to go through your process.

          I understand.

          Will you be making any further announcements?

          Not in the foreseeable future.

          Thank you for speaking with me.

          Thank you.
          The Mystery
          A few select individuals have been informed of the nature of the elaborate scheme the Illuminati use to protect their central secret. It has been decided to afford others the same glimpse. No one has ever solved the clues without the intervention of Illuminati guides. In most cases, Illuminati guides will contact you only if you have taken a significant step towards the solution. On occasion, other candidates are selected if they have shown patience, resilience and genuine insight into the nature of the problem. It is often several years before candidates are contacted.

          The Threefold Enigma

          The many persecutions throughout history that the Illuminati have endured have, on several occasions, placed their secret in great danger of discovery by their enemies. The ruling council of the Illuminati long ago decided to devise a sophisticated puzzle to conceal their secret - the Holy Grail - but at the same time offer clues and hope to seekers. While most seekers are genuine, some are duplicitous and are sent by the enemy to infiltrate the Illuminati and attempt to steal or destroy the Grail. For this reason, the Illuminati must exercise the greatest caution.

          This is the text of a message that the Illuminati have sanctioned to be sent to a handful of seekers - six last year - who appeared to be of the right calibre to make meaningful headway with the enigma over the next few years.
          The Message
          "I have been instructed to inform you of the following, which you may or may not find useful. Perhaps it will give you an insight into the complexity of the challenge facing you, and indeed all seekers. Many seekers appreciate that they are confronting an immense problem, but most fail to perceive just how deliberately elaborate it is. It is for you to make your choices as you see fit.

          There are three profound mysteries involved in the search for the "Grail", two of which are fake and carefully designed to protect the real mystery. The two fake mysteries were formulated at the same time - by the ruling council - hundreds of years ago. The two fake mysteries are ingenious and each has a unique, convincing and sensational solution. The two fakes have more 'public' clues than the real mystery i.e. the clues are easier to find, though they are by no means easy to solve. Each of the mysteries, including the real one, is allowed to evolve in the sense that additional clues can be provided at any time, particularly by way of stories and paintings. But false clues are also laid.
          There are intersection points between the three mysteries: certain key facts that all three have in common. Even if a seeker has become entrapped in one of the fake mysteries (both of which are as highly compelling as the real mystery), he will still have opportunities to switch to the real mystery if he makes the right choice at an intersection point. He will make the right choice only if he has the strength to abandon all of the work he has performed on either of the fake mysteries. This, in fact, is part of the test. Virtually no one makes the right choice because abandoning years of hard work is simply too difficult for most to contemplate, especially when they believe they have been making good progress. There is another trap: it is possible to move from one fake mystery to the other fake mystery, bypassing the true mystery. Several seekers have encountered this misfortune.

          Anyone who makes significant progress on the real mystery will certainly be contacted, but must then undergo a long vetting process to ensure that they are not working for the enemy. The enemy has on two occasions come within one step of reaching the final stage of the real mystery. Preventing the enemy from accessing the final stage is paramount.
          Your current status is classified as follows: you are making notable headway with one of the fake mysteries. You have encountered material that can direct you to an intersection point, but you have not yet moved in the right direction. You are deemed to have all of the necessary skills and attributes to move forward, but others have possessed such skills and attributes yet remained stuck in fruitless pursuit of fake mysteries. The fake mysteries are highly seductive but nevertheless valueless. No one has yet solved the fake mysteries, and some may even find them more alluring than the real mystery since they have implications that are as mind boggling as that of the real mystery, but they have not one particle of genuine evidence to substantiate them and are entirely speculative. (Imagine a painting that points, in an arcane way, to a manufactured mystery. A seeker might imagine that if he solves the painting's code, he will advance closer to the truth. In fact, he has merely come closer to a false "truth". But how would he know? That is always the dilemma.) The real mystery, on the other hand, is associated with indisputable evidence of its truth. If it did not have this evidence, it would long ago have been deemed unbelievable.
          I hope this information proves useful to you. It is hoped that you will enjoy the greatest of good fortune in your quest, and, if you do, you will be contacted. I'm sorry that nothing more definite can be said at this time. It is true that a more active period has been entered and many clues may become visible within the next few years, from a number of different and often unexpected sources. People like you will be in the best position to find them, but you will also have to sift truth from deception, and it is in the nature of deception that it often comes in the most desirable forms, while the truth can be plain, unadorned and shunned.
          Again, we offer you the greatest of good fortune. You are assuredly correct that he who is not searching for the Grail will never find it."

          The Vatican Ban

          The English edition of the Vatican's newspaper made the following announcement:







          Zeitgeist

          How many people fully understand Zeitgeist?



          Are you one of the seekers? From our Russian division from 1979 - Stalker by Tarkovsky. Can you cope with the setbacks on the path? Can you confront the enigma and remain undaunted? Can you enter the mysterious Zone and find the Grail?

          Hundreds of seekers have contacted us in recent months. Many of these candidates are highly promising, but we must emphasise that few are chosen. Do you have the qualities required? Several clues will appear from a number of apparently separate sources over the next three years in the lead up to 2012. Can you find your way through the maze? Can you put the jigsaw together?

          The Soul Camera will dramatize the procedure that occurs when a seeker is recruited, and it will also reveal the perils that recruits face from the enemies of the Grail.
          Last edited by George S.; 04-22-2012, 04:12 AM. Reason: ed
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • George S.
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 10116

            senior member of the Illuminati breaks his silence for the first time.

            How to Become God
            The Illuminati
            Conspiracy Theories explained
            The Old World Order
            Mass Mind Control
            The Sick Society
            Adam Weishaupt
            The Last Man
            François de Nomé
            Zion
            Nibiru
            The Female Conundrum
            Common questions
            Meritocracy
            Ayn Rand
            Christ the Deceiver
            Illumination
            The Leibniz Riddle
            Double Agent? Madman?
            The Enigma of Existence
            The Strangest Truth?
            Do you have Free Will?
            Alienation
            Master and Slave
            Leviathan
            Did an “Angel” Create Earth?
            God
            The End of History
            The Secret History
            Goldman Sachs
            Robinson and Barruel
            What is it?
            Illuminati Jesuits?
            Hegel and Hermeticism
            Illuminati Degrees
            The Illuminati Network
            The Panopticon
            Supriem Rockefeller
            The Movement
            Encountering God
            The Right Brain God?
            Selling Your Soul
            Sin for Salvation
            The Mind War
            Soul Contact
            The Hero Program
            Etidorhpa and David Lindsay
            Hinduism and Buddhism
            Exodus
            M and M Rising
            Dream Gnosis
            The Day of Rage
            The Mithras Deception
            The Jesus Myth
            The Jesus Plot
            Unenlightenment
            Identity Crisis
            Golgonooza
            The Bloodline Code
            The Satan Plan
            Outsiders
            The Divine Suicide
            9/11 Revisited
            The Genesis Singularity
            The Celestial Human
            Goldman Sucks
            The Quintessence
            The God Within
            Mysterium Tremendum
            Phoenix Resurgam
            Escape Velocity
            The Perfect Game
            Philosophia Teutonica
            Mammon Ascendant
            The Imaginary Dimension
            Zero and Infinity
            The Incompleteness Theorem
            The Taking Of The Liberty Bell
            Beyond Good and Evil
            The Great Chain of Being
            The Great Chain of Being (II)
            Reverse Christmas
            The God Program
            The God Program II
            The New World Order
            Paradigm Shift (I)
            Paradigm Shift (II)
            Sex for Salvation I
            Sex for Salvation II
            Sex for Salvation III
            The Trial of God
            Sheol
            The Triune Brain
            Benjamin Fulford
            Curtain Call
            The Final Curtain
            The Last Post
            Psychopathology of "Anonymous"
            The Meritocracy Party

            Can you tell us what position you hold in the Illuminati?
            I'm part of the 12-man Ruling Council. There are five Americans, five western Europeans, one Russian and one Indian. We have members in every country of the world, but there are fewer than 6,000 of us in total.

            People say that the Illuminati are exceptionally wealthy. Is that true?
            It's true that all twelve members of the Ruling Council are wealthy, but money, for us, simply funds our mission, nothing else. We are not worshippers of Mammon, as our accusers would have you believe. [In fact, most of what could be called the "wealth" of the Illuminati is in the form of priceless treasures, not "liquid" money. Some members of the Illuminati have acquired considerable wealth; most are not wealthy.]

            Are you intent on creating a New World Order?


            The blunt answer is yes, but not in the way our enemies claim. We are liberators.
            Liberators of what?

            Of the human race. That's our mission. To set humanity free from…sorry I must stop there.

            Excuse me, why do you have to stop?

            I was in danger of saying too much. I'm afraid I can't speak freely, given the nature of the secret the Illuminati are protecting, and the power of our enemies.
            Are your enemies people like David Icke? Is he exposing your conspiracy?

            We are conspirators, yes, but our conspiracy is entirely benevolent. David Icke is not an enemy of the Illuminati. He says many things with which we agree. His problem is that he has not correctly identified the true enemy. His enemy is the same as ours, but he does not understand their real nature and purpose. His lizard theory is of course preposterous and discredits all of the many sensible things he says. It's most unfortunate that a clever man has played into the hands of our mutual enemy by presenting incredible theories that no rational person could take seriously.

            What do you mean by "mutual enemy"?

            Icke makes many perceptive observations, but he erroneously calls the enemy the Illuminati and the New World Order and so forth. In fact, the enemy is the Old World Order - the people who have been in charge from the very beginning. They have no need to change anything because the world is already dancing to their tune. Their tyrannical dynasties have stridden the world stage for millennia. The last thing they want is a new world. Icke is correct when he identifies royal families, presidents, prime ministers, bankers, media barons, top business executives and so on as the enemy. He is wrong to call them the Illuminati. We are the very people who are waging the fiercest war against the enemy, trying to stop them choking the human race to death. We are the last and only hope for humanity. Everyone who opposes a New World Order is deluded - having swallowed the deceptions of the enemy - or is actively in the service of the powers that be: the Old World Order.
            Why are you breaking your silence at this time? And why did you choose to speak to me?

            We chose you because you have a reputation for impartiality, fair reporting and protecting your sources. It's true that we are a highly secretive organisation, but people misunderstand our secrecy. There are those who are secretive because they are part of a conspiracy to control, manipulate and oppress others. And there are those who are secretive because they wish to conceal themselves from those who would do them harm. Our enemy wishes to destroy us, and for that reason we must maintain our secrecy. Our enemy is very powerful and always searching for us. Our enemy has promoted the myth that we are somehow running the world. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are in hiding. We always have been. We are breaking our silence because every now and again, when we judge the time is right, we try to communicate our ideas in coded form to those with ears to listen. We are always looking to recruit those who are still free. The number is shrinking all the time.

            What do you mean by "those who are still free"?

            Sorry, I can't expand on that. Let me just say to you that we tried twice in the past to show a coded glimpse of the nature of our great secret. You have probably heard of the most mysterious manuscript in the world - the Voynich manuscript. No one has ever been able to decode it. The men who wrote it were members of the Illuminati and they were captured and killed before they could release the key to decoding it. The Arthurian legends were our other main attempt to enter popular consciousness and reveal our true purpose. They succeeded to an extent, but our enemies were able to confuse our message by releasing alternative versions of the legends. So, now we are trying again.

            In what way?

            The Arthurian legends were imaginative fictions that alluded to the secret we are protecting…the Holy Grail, if you will. We prefer this fictional approach because it allows us to conceal the truth from our enemies. They are unable to distinguish between the fact and the fiction. But those who have ears for our message - they will learn the truth.

            So, you have created new coded "legends"?

            In a manner of speaking. We hired a successful ghost-writer to create four coded 'novels' for us that would outline our purpose. The chosen writer was handsomely rewarded and sworn to secrecy. But…

            I apologise for pausing for so long. Let me just say that he will not be writing the fourth and final part. I am not permitted to tell you any more than that. We are seeking a new ghost-writer to complete the task.

            Did your enemies find the writer? Did they harm him? Or recruit him, perhaps?


            I cannot comment on any of that.

            The three completed novels are attributed to "Mike Hockney". Is that a pseudonym?


            Yes.
            On other pages of this website there are videos featuring the voices of several people. Are they members of the Illuminati?

            No, certainly not. They work for a progressive, unconventional advertising agency that the Illuminati have used on occasion. Their brief was simply to advertise our novels in a non-threatening, almost amusing way. We think they have done a reasonable job. [These videos have been removed: the site is now maintained by three Seventh Degree members of the Illuminati. The sites that were depicted in the videos are of special significance to the Illuminati.]

            Are you claiming that the three novels partially reveal a great secret?

            Yes. Let me be perfectly clear. The three novels are called "The Millionaires' Death Club", "Prohibition A" and "The Armageddon Conspiracy". The fourth novel in the series (to be called "The Soul Camera") will complete the revelation of the entire secret. But only for those with eyes to see, of course.

            I have read all three novels. I saw no real connection between them.

            Then you have not 'seen'. The task is not an easy one. You must be enlightened to perceive our secret.

            "The Armageddon Conspiracy", in particular, seemed to hint at something truly extraordinary.

            The writer went too far in this case. He disobeyed our brief and added elements that we had never intended. But, we must confess, he perhaps performed a great service for us. This book is the one that comes closest to revealing our precise secret.

            Why can't you just tell us your secret? Why all of this cloak and dagger stuff?

            If you knew what the secret was, you would understand perfectly. Let me just say that the secret, if revealed to the whole world at one moment, would lead to an unimaginable cataclysm. The very thing we most seek to protect would be destroyed. Everything we have worked for over many millennia would be lost.

            That sounds like an incredible secret.

            It would be better for me if I knew nothing of this secret. My entire life revolves around it. I have had to live a constrained, fearful life because of it. All of us in the Illuminati have had to live this way. Some secrets are great burdens. This is the greatest burden of all.

            I really don't know what to make of what you have told me. You must realise it sounds odd.

            That can't be helped. I wish the secret weren't true. I wouldn't believe it myself if I hadn't seen the evidence.

            Why don't you reveal the evidence? Then we will all be convinced.

            The evidence automatically reveals the secret. Therefore I cannot reveal the evidence. Only new members of the Illuminati are shown the evidence.

            Is someone like me allowed to join the Illuminati?

            Any suitable person can join. But to prove that you are suitable involves a long and arduous process. We must ensure that the enemy does not infiltrate us. It would be a catastrophe for the human race if the enemy discovered our secret.

            I am intrigued. But I'm not sure I'd want to go through your process.

            I understand.

            Will you be making any further announcements?

            Not in the foreseeable future.

            Thank you for speaking with me.

            Thank you.
            The Mystery
            A few select individuals have been informed of the nature of the elaborate scheme the Illuminati use to protect their central secret. It has been decided to afford others the same glimpse. No one has ever solved the clues without the intervention of Illuminati guides. In most cases, Illuminati guides will contact you only if you have taken a significant step towards the solution. On occasion, other candidates are selected if they have shown patience, resilience and genuine insight into the nature of the problem. It is often several years before candidates are contacted.

            The Threefold Enigma

            The many persecutions throughout history that the Illuminati have endured have, on several occasions, placed their secret in great danger of discovery by their enemies. The ruling council of the Illuminati long ago decided to devise a sophisticated puzzle to conceal their secret - the Holy Grail - but at the same time offer clues and hope to seekers. While most seekers are genuine, some are duplicitous and are sent by the enemy to infiltrate the Illuminati and attempt to steal or destroy the Grail. For this reason, the Illuminati must exercise the greatest caution.

            This is the text of a message that the Illuminati have sanctioned to be sent to a handful of seekers - six last year - who appeared to be of the right calibre to make meaningful headway with the enigma over the next few years.
            The Message
            "I have been instructed to inform you of the following, which you may or may not find useful. Perhaps it will give you an insight into the complexity of the challenge facing you, and indeed all seekers. Many seekers appreciate that they are confronting an immense problem, but most fail to perceive just how deliberately elaborate it is. It is for you to make your choices as you see fit.

            There are three profound mysteries involved in the search for the "Grail", two of which are fake and carefully designed to protect the real mystery. The two fake mysteries were formulated at the same time - by the ruling council - hundreds of years ago. The two fake mysteries are ingenious and each has a unique, convincing and sensational solution. The two fakes have more 'public' clues than the real mystery i.e. the clues are easier to find, though they are by no means easy to solve. Each of the mysteries, including the real one, is allowed to evolve in the sense that additional clues can be provided at any time, particularly by way of stories and paintings. But false clues are also laid.
            There are intersection points between the three mysteries: certain key facts that all three have in common. Even if a seeker has become entrapped in one of the fake mysteries (both of which are as highly compelling as the real mystery), he will still have opportunities to switch to the real mystery if he makes the right choice at an intersection point. He will make the right choice only if he has the strength to abandon all of the work he has performed on either of the fake mysteries. This, in fact, is part of the test. Virtually no one makes the right choice because abandoning years of hard work is simply too difficult for most to contemplate, especially when they believe they have been making good progress. There is another trap: it is possible to move from one fake mystery to the other fake mystery, bypassing the true mystery. Several seekers have encountered this misfortune.

            Anyone who makes significant progress on the real mystery will certainly be contacted, but must then undergo a long vetting process to ensure that they are not working for the enemy. The enemy has on two occasions come within one step of reaching the final stage of the real mystery. Preventing the enemy from accessing the final stage is paramount.
            Your current status is classified as follows: you are making notable headway with one of the fake mysteries. You have encountered material that can direct you to an intersection point, but you have not yet moved in the right direction. You are deemed to have all of the necessary skills and attributes to move forward, but others have possessed such skills and attributes yet remained stuck in fruitless pursuit of fake mysteries. The fake mysteries are highly seductive but nevertheless valueless. No one has yet solved the fake mysteries, and some may even find them more alluring than the real mystery since they have implications that are as mind boggling as that of the real mystery, but they have not one particle of genuine evidence to substantiate them and are entirely speculative. (Imagine a painting that points, in an arcane way, to a manufactured mystery. A seeker might imagine that if he solves the painting's code, he will advance closer to the truth. In fact, he has merely come closer to a false "truth". But how would he know? That is always the dilemma.) The real mystery, on the other hand, is associated with indisputable evidence of its truth. If it did not have this evidence, it would long ago have been deemed unbelievable.
            I hope this information proves useful to you. It is hoped that you will enjoy the greatest of good fortune in your quest, and, if you do, you will be contacted. I'm sorry that nothing more definite can be said at this time. It is true that a more active period has been entered and many clues may become visible within the next few years, from a number of different and often unexpected sources. People like you will be in the best position to find them, but you will also have to sift truth from deception, and it is in the nature of deception that it often comes in the most desirable forms, while the truth can be plain, unadorned and shunned.
            Again, we offer you the greatest of good fortune. You are assuredly correct that he who is not searching for the Grail will never find it."

            The Vatican Ban

            The English edition of the Vatican's newspaper made the following announcement:







            Zeitgeist

            How many people fully understand Zeitgeist?



            Are you one of the seekers? From our Russian division from 1979 - Stalker by Tarkovsky. Can you cope with the setbacks on the path? Can you confront the enigma and remain undaunted? Can you enter the mysterious Zone and find the Grail?

            Hundreds of seekers have contacted us in recent months. Many of these candidates are highly promising, but we must emphasise that few are chosen. Do you have the qualities required? Several clues will appear from a number of apparently separate sources over the next three years in the lead up to 2012. Can you find your way through the maze? Can you put the jigsaw together?

            The Soul Camera will dramatize the procedure that occurs when a seeker is recruited, and it will also reveal the perils that recruits face from the enemies of the Grail.
            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
            GOTSE DELCEV

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            • George S.
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10116

              Deceptions Used to Form a One World Government
              A Detailed Summary of the Big Picture

              This is a summary of the full report, so you can read about a lot of facts in a small amount of time. It contains many totally different points, so it is important to read it all. It leads to other pages which have more detail which are also well worth reading as they will make things more clear and convincing. References are given to the sources of these conspiracies on the web site where you will find more information.

              An evil group of men has always wanted to rule the entire world. In the past conquest has failed to achieve this, due to the resulting outrage and awareness of the enemy. In our present time an evil group are trying a subtle but effective way to rule. This is to gradually infiltrate and delude the masses into accepting their ideas. Such subtle gradualism, along with distraction (such as unnecessary work, study, entertainment and sport) is being used effectively. Few people will therefore be aware of what is going on.


              The evil people who
              contol society have
              introduced satanic
              symbols and systems
              all around us.
              These photographs
              of the USA. $1 note
              are one of many examples.
              The powerful conspirators are made up largely of the international bankers, and the Illuminati, which is a super-rich organization, which controls the mainstream media, workforce, education system, companies, banks, energy supplies and governments. They are controlled by the richest people in the world such as the super-rich Rothschild and Rockefeller families. They also hide behind many organizations such as the United Nations, the WTO and the Council on Foreign relations.
              There is also a Jesuit-Vatican connection, planning the merging of many faiths into the apostate one world church which will serve Satan. The New Age movements are also part of the plan.
              To gain full control of the world's money would mean full control over everyone, especially those in debt. This is exactly what the international bankers conspiracy is doing. Every government is in debt to them. This debt is increasing. Personal debt is very widespread and increasing. Hence almost everyone is in debt. Wasteful spending, borrowing and debt are encouraged. Therefore people and governments are becoming increasingly in the bankers control, as they have to pay interest, which the bankers can manipulate to their will.

              Governments are forced to sell assets, lose sovereignty, and place citizens in poverty to repay their debt.

              The conspirators are privatising, buying and controlling government assets.

              The conspirators bribe governments with political donations.

              They gain ownership of land through world heritage, which is then miss-managed and restricted.

              Things that prove a trend towards a one world government include; a rising amount of globalization, free trade, privatization, foreign investment, mergers, international organizations, debt, international problems that need an international solution and peace agreements that give false security.

              Perhaps the greatest conspiracy is to distract us from the truth, so that we will lose money and property to the powerful conspirators, who corruptly monopolize wealth and power, and gain more power as a result.
              Instead of using most of our time or money to fight the powerful by learning and sharing the truth, we are deceived into trying to keep and make more money than we really need, so that we will lose it to the powerful.
              A common control measure is to deceive the majority that the purpose of life is to spend most of your time to make money, and spend it on unnecessary things. The conspirators deceive people that making excessive money is easy and profitable, despite the fact that the majority of small businesses go bankrupt. Suitable paid work is very hard to find. Searching and applying for it costs money and time. Therefore the conspirators profit from peoples waste and bankruptcies. Instead of encouraging volunteer work and encouraging people to freely help and serve each other, their motto is either make excess money for yourself or spend all your time trying to find something that will make excessive money for yourself.
              The term "make money" is deceptive. Unless you are a bank or a mint it is illegal to create money. For you to gain money, it has to come from somewhere to the disadvantage of someone else. This could be:
              1. from the Government, (if you are a public servant)
              2. as wages from a poor small business manager, or charges to a poor person or
              3. taken from a company, which causes that company to charge higher costs to poor people.
              But if you use your money and time for God's will you are not guilty of disadvantaging others.
              The conspirators have highly infiltrated the corrupt mainstream workforce, including the public service, which often forces people to teach and use bad practices when better methods are available.
              People are doing unnecessary work. Many jobs, products and services are unnecessary and corrupt, and hence corrupt the people who are involved with them.

              The conspirators have shares in and therefore control of many companies and organizations whose staff would be fired if they did not obey the terms of the corrupt system.

              Charging money for something suppresses the material or service by restricting or deterring people from using it. A very small percentage will buy something as opposed to using it for free, because it is unaffordable for most of the world's population, requires carrying money or having credit cards and wastes time for bookwork and transactions. Also it discriminates against the needy. Instead people who can afford it should offer to donate, even if they are not asked for money. Would you be reading this information if you initially had to pay for it?

              The powerful aim to destroy small businesses and disadvantage citizens by sending them bankrupt. They then claim their property and money.

              The banks and multinationals may eventually merge together and then merge with the one world government, who will make sure almost no small businesses are left to bypass their system. Probably almost the only ones selling will be multinationals, controlled by the one world government. Therefore everyone will be forced to rely on a monopoly, which will have complete control over everyone.

              In countries with above average costs and wages it is better to reduce costs because wage rises increase costs, inflation, interest rates, small business bankruptcies and unemployment. Exports are reduced. Wage rises take money away from small businesses, pensioners, unpaid volunteers and carers who often work hard for no pay. Although trade unions are correct in some ways, they still support destructive and selfish policies that cause unemployment, destroy the poor and destroy the economy.

              Instead of enabling small businesses to produce products much cheaper, the government imports identical products to those produced locally. The importing of foreign imports from multinationals is destroying local producers and giving more power to the conspirators. This is also spreading disease.
              Competition and free trade is an advantage for the wealthy and powerful. There is a deception that we need serious competition to have fun, keep prices down have a large variety of goods and services. However, the opposite is happening and powerful corrupt companies with redundant products are taking advantage of and destroying honest innovators and small businesses with good products and services. As a result good products are becoming suppressed. This is resulting in a smaller variety of and poorer quality goods and services.
              Deregulation enables multinationals to get products much cheaper than small businesses, at the poor primary producers expense.
              Multinationals raise prices higher than the small businesses did before they were annihilated.
              God's way is a rightfully regulated fair go for everyone where everyone is well off.
              Competition encourages many outlets to sell the same things, which causes confusion to shoppers.
              If one succeeds in a career or enterprise to make money, they prevent someone else from succeeding under such a competitive environment of limited opportunities.
              Serious competition means over training, lust for worldly success, money or medals. There can be pride if you win and distraction from doing God's will. Anger, disappointment, envy, regret and resentment may result when you lose.

              Many of the conspirators' products are deliberately made not to last so that customers will be distracted with problems and buy more products or parts. Multinationals suppress inventions and discoveries so that the world is forced to rely on their redundant, wasteful, costly and addictive products that bring them great profit.
              Only approximately 0.1% of inventors make a living from their inventions. Patents cost money and expire. Little support for inventors means almost all revolutionary inventions including free energy devices and natural medical cures have been suppressed.
              The conspirators control the price of energy and essential products and services despite the fact that there are much more efficient but suppressed methods available.

              Such a plan means it is logical that the system does not support people without power or money who have good ideas and the potential to make the world a better place. Doing so would mean a transfer of wealth and power away from the conspirators and into the hands of those who wish to do Good.

              Increasing numbers of people are controlled by the government, as they are forced to rely on welfare.

              Consumption taxes will only hurt the poor, increase costs and destroy small businesses. There are too many taxes. The cost of complying with and enforcing taxation is therefore a major problem which is draining the economy.

              International laws appear good, but are deceptively introduced to give the powerful more power.
              If countries don't accept a condition, they are given sanctions or their leaders are brought down.
              Peace agreements and common ties between countries have some benefit, but give the world a false sense of security and tie countries together ready for a one world government.
              Disarmament gives more power to the powerful and less arms for citizens to resist them.
              The goal of the world government is to remove the weapons of honest citizens, so that they can more easily persecute and exterminate anyone who resists their control.

              Foreign aid is mostly only transferred into the hands of the rich and powerful to gain more power and exploit the poor.

              The stock market is overvalued and rigged. People are deceived into investing in banks and multinationals. A crash will give the citizens' property to the powerful.
              Boom and bust cycles, market fluctuations and stock market crashes are deliberately caused so that people lose money to the conspirators.

              Christmas and Easter have lost their true meaning. Unnecessary spending helps the powerful.

              UFO's are probably man made craft which may be used to fool the world into accepting the One World Government. They are secretly hidden and tested at military bases.

              Banks create money from nothing and demand it back, together with unnecessarily high interest.
              They encourage waste of money so that they can profit from the interest.
              The conspirators deliberately create problems such as wars, market depressions and other crises. This is so that they can control, confuse and distract people, and also benefit from the interest on the money that they lend to fund and then stop these crises. Also it is so that the world will accept their solutions, which are really only steps towards their plan and more of their control.
              Sources give strong proof that the conspirators have funded both sides of most of the wars in the last 200 years, including the world wars.

              Their members are in our governments and often form presidents of various countries. Therefore the conspirators control the world's governments.

              The conspirators can control the weather for biological warfare. They are deliberately ruining the environment to gain more control.

              The conspirators mix truth with evil to slowly seduce the masses into their hands. Like pawns in a game many people are helping and working for the conspirators without knowing this. People even unintentionally deceive their family members.

              To achieve their plans they aim to destroy existing governments, private property, religion and sovereignty so that they control everything.

              Many diseases, foods and medicines are deliberately made to weaken and control people. Starvation, death and poverty, deliberately caused to billions of people will also give the powerful, greater control.

              Genetic engineering gives multinationals more power over food, crops, seed collecting and farmers.

              Corrupting and weakening the population will make it easier for the conspirators to get the people to accept their conditions. Ways this is done include; media propaganda, promotion of violence and sex, bad education, and drugs.

              Unnecessary paper work, duplication, and excessive questions in documents cause time and money to be wasted.

              Inconsistency causes confusion. Standards vary so much in different places.

              Government policies are advised by unelected bureaucrats, linked to and influenced by the powerful.

              Newly elected members of parliament are lectured that they must vote as the party dictates.

              To protect their interests, the media often give no publicity or bad publicity to good ideas or good parties. The reason why so many people are not aware of these things is that the conspirators control all the main media and education systems.

              Bible prophecies are known to be 100% accurate. The Bible predicts that the Beast or Antichrist will fool the elect of many religions that he is God by doing miracles and promising peace. He will break his peace agreement, totally rule the world and bring widespread persecution. He will force everyone to worship him and accept a satanic mark on their right hand or forehead in order to buy or sell (Rev 13). This will probably be an embedded computer chip. It will be better to die and be with Christ instead of taking the mark and worshipping the satanic beast, which will cause you to be eternally separated from Christ.
              There is strong evidence that the conspirators have well planned this system of a satanic one-world government.

              Government statistics deceive people into thinking that things are going better than they are.
              Something must be wrong when approximately: 90% of the world's population are worse off financially than the average pensioner, 95% of small businesses make a loss and 1/3 of the worlds population go to bed hungry. In wealthy countries real unemployment is about 20% with sometimes 16 unemployed people for every job vacancy. Wealth distribution is totally corrupt, because the hardest working, most honest, hard working, ambitious, intelligent and innovative Christian people may be poor while lazy and corrupt people may be rich. Please see the evidence at advantagein.com/statistics.htm

              History books controlled by the conspiracy do not tell the full truth on why many events happen. Many facts are suppressed.

              The justice system is corrupt, with unfair or delayed trials. High costs, duplication and retrials advantage the rich. Conflicts of interest and defamation laws suppress corruption.



              The Solution
              The solution is the Biblical principle practiced by the Apostles, which is very rarely seen today. They did not desire money, or work for the corrupt mainstream system, but worked hard doing God's will. They shared and did not spend money or time on unnecessary things. The solution is that we could form a highly efficient group. People could work from their own homes in their own time, which would be more efficient and less stressful. We could search for and communicate with people who have suppressed technologies, which are better than those publicly available. We could benefit from their technologies, and they may even join our group.

              A group that shares and is free of corruption would mean that other people would want to give back and help in return. This would be far better than the current mainstream system of charging dollars for almost everything, which suppresses products, causes greed and poverty and is inefficient as explained earlier.

              Avoid buying from or investing in multinationals or banks. Instead invest in a better system, which will help you and others. You could help honest small innovators. Lending money to True Christian charities or ministries is a good idea, as you could reclaim your savings in the future for another Godly purpose. Also your money will be used for Godly purposes. A genuine Christian group will want to help you if you are in need. This is better than hording unused money in a corrupt bank or company where it is likely that you will lose your life savings. "1 Tim 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

              We need people to reveal the truth to those who are uninformed and to search for those with similar interests. Quality goods and services are needed, but they take time to find among the counterfeits, although the Internet does help. This will only be achieved if people like you change from working for the corrupt mainstream system to a much more efficient, enjoyable system.

              Many people who work for the corrupt system are honest, intelligent people who work hard. They would change the world if they worked for a better system.

              People could continue in a similar occupation. For example, a teacher could leave the mainstream system to work for a Christian school. A scientist could research the best methods available, instead of something that will bring the satanic conspirators profit. A health worker could start researching and using suppressed cures, instead of using the mainstream's system of dangerous drugs or methods. A member of parliament could change from being part of a mainstream political party to become an independent. A meteorologist could start an Internet network of home-based weather stations, sky cameras and forecasters that would give much more information, efficiency and reliability than the weather bureau. I am trying to do this. People could leave mainstream education. Instead they could study something that they will use and want to learn.

              Imagine how much less stress, bad company, overwork, workplace bullying, and unhappiness there would be.

              We need to do God's will, which clearly says not to yoke with evil or be part of the corrupt world system. Maybe then will we see great joy and healings in people who are coming to God.

              Some members of our group could work to find and research groups or individuals that practice True Christianity. There may be true Christians or true Christian groups out there as committed as the Apostles with instant, permanent, consistent, supernatural healings and totally true prophecies. Many counterfeit groups claim this. The challenge is to find and prove who are the genuine believers and expose corruption, counterfeit groups and false doctrines so that people can be warned.

              The reasons why we should seek first the kingdom of God by trying to form or find a group like the Apostles are endless. Imagine the benefits if we could move in the spirit like the Apostles. People would be guided by God instead of stumbling around blind folded making the wrong decisions. We may not have to spend eons of our lives looking for things and making decisions. There may be little or no need for traditional medical therapy, as people could be supernaturally healed. There would be certainty, direction and less frustration. There would be more love, a great relationship with God and little worry. There would be a revival with maybe even sceptics coming to the Lord when they see things happening.

              The main focus should not be on this world, which is perishing. Making a significant change to the mainstream system is almost impossible. Time would be much better spent on forming an independent system. There is much hope as we can choose not to follow the god of this world, but worship God so that we can enjoy a much better life to come. Please see much more information on true Christianity at truechristianity.com
              Last edited by George S.; 04-22-2012, 04:19 AM. Reason: ed
              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
              GOTSE DELCEV

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              • Brian
                Banned
                • Oct 2011
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                Originally posted by George S. View Post
                Can you find your way through the maze? Can you put the jigsaw together?
                George S. I read your posts but unfortunately could not make much sense of it, maybe you could offer an explanation for it's meaning.

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                • George S.
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                  //"Can you find your way through the maze? Can you put the jigsaw together?"
                  This was about the zeitegeist movie of how people are puting different interpretations taken from the bible to show the end of the world supposed to be in 2012.So much so that the English edition of the Vatican's newspaper made the following announcemen who ever is lucky to be selcted may be lucky enough to find the holy grail.But there are so many.So supposedly someone is going to come up with some kind of interpretation that willlead to the nd of the world in 2012.So this is like a maze or a puzzle that the article says.
                  Last edited by George S.; 04-23-2012, 07:53 AM. Reason: ed
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • Brian
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                    Deception is the act of the beast.

                    When we talk of the NWO we say they want
                    - 1 world government
                    - 1 world currency
                    - 1 world religion.

                    Although all three points appear strange and impossible to attain (who ever thought the USA and Russia would be friends?) we can sort of understand how this could happen for the first 2 points because we already have the UN and federations formed (ie the EU) or forming (ie NAFTA) and NATO acting as the 'world policeman' and with most world currencies under pressure directly or consequentially if other (major) currencies should fall then the hope and stability 1 world government, 1 world 'police force' to keep peace and order, and 1 stable currency can be outwardly appealing, but the 3rd point seams impossible since all faiths - Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist, Catholic, Orthodox, Jehovah Witness, Mormon (and all the other splinters), Jew and Muslim, ect (in case I left anyone out) - are different, how can they be 'melted' into one religion? Surly people would object - many would rather die than convert! Do we just pick one and wipe-out anyone who doesn't want to convert?, or is there a hidden similarity to all (or at least almost all) of these religions which if, with a bit of 'tweaking', could be used as a binding 'glue' to morph these religions into one?

                    The following video discusses the old pagan religions and how their symbols and customs have found their way into today's religions. It also discusses how the pagan deities were known by different names by different people or places or names changed over time but through their symbology, method and custom/practice betray/announce their roots as being the same deity.

                    The video looks at the common traits and postulates that it could be the basis of a common religion, but does not speculate on the catalyst event that would drive humanity to this conclusion other than possibly war and strife and the desperate need for peace and hence people would be forced to look at the multitudes of things in common rather than fixating on the few things that are different.

                    It is a very interesting video. It 'sets the scene' in the first hour (necessary I suppose) and gets into much more detail and how thing gel and blend together after that.

                    I was discussing with someone the up-coming movie Prometheus and how this sort of thing (yes!!! one for you EgejskaMakedonia and Giorgio "the answer is aliens" and Phoenix the 'who knows where he has disappeared to, maybe aliens got him or the NWO disposed of him for botching up his assignment at the MTO') as a false flag in the midst of economic and political strife could be used to forge the 1 world order and religion. He pointed out that the old "X-Files" series has at least once been used (by the NWO?) to show a prophetic scene which later turned out very close to reality ie re the episode where there is a conspiracy to crash a jumbo-jet into the the Twin Towers.

                    He also pointed out another episode where an alien craft crashes and on the outside are inscription from the Bible, Qu'ran and other ancient languages, the suggestion being that our different religions have been influence by aliens and are really just slightly different versions of the same story about God and life on earth. I'm only putting this out because there is a lot of this being said on the Net - some say it's real while others say it will be a false flag to push people into this way of thinking. The catalyst event to bring in the NWO and their 1 religion could just be war and strife as the video suggests. Nonetheless the video is insightful to how pagan religions and deities have found their way into just about all of today's religions.

                    Walter Veith - (19) The Wine of Babylon / Total Onslaught
                    Walter Veith - (19) The Wine of Babylon / Total Onslaught - YouTube


                    If you remember my posts in the "Easter" thread the video discusses this at 1.40:00 onwards and at 1.50:08 goes into basically my personal view on hot-cross-buns which I love.

                    From 1.50:40 to the end is 'the bottom line' - "you cannot serve 2 masters" and a choice has to be made.
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                    • Brian
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                      • Oct 2011
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                      Originally posted by George S. View Post
                      //"Can you find your way through the maze? Can you put the jigsaw together?"
                      This was about the zeitegeist movie of how people are puting different interpretations taken from the bible to show the end of the world supposed to be in 2012.So much so that the English edition of the Vatican's newspaper made the following announcemen who ever is lucky to be selcted may be lucky enough to find the holy grail.But there are so many.So supposedly someone is going to come up with some kind of interpretation that willlead to the nd of the world in 2012.So this is like a maze or a puzzle that the article says.
                      George S. I would be very careful with ANYTHING you may want to take away from the "Zeitegeist" movie - it's underlying theme is communism in disguise, a kind of counter-balance to the 'greed is good/big banks' ills of the world.

                      Communism, Socialism, Capitalism and Fascism are presented as the political spectrum to choose from but on closer inspection are shown to be the same thing masquerading in different form (see Post522 video by G. Edward Griffin) and for this reason I would steer clear of their philosophies.
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                      • Brian
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                        • Oct 2011
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                        By now it must be apparent why I detest the NWO - they are satanists using his 1 true power, deception, to drag as many people away from the true God.

                        If you are a member of any of the religions portrayed in the videos I think you should not see my posts as a personal attach on you, the individual, but at the system of that organised religion which is deceiving you. I can understand the resistance that immediately builds in a person when they find their particular brand of religion attacked - you may be a deeply religious person firmly believing in God but the evidence portrayed in these videos says your passion for the true God is being purposely misdirected by the people in power in those religions.

                        The previous videos mainly focused on the Catholic, Jehovah Witness and Mormon church. It also looked at how the Protestant churches are being infiltrated and touched on the other large religion, Islam. The following video goes into more detail on Islam.

                        On a side note it is interesting that there are videos on YouTube produced by Muslims who reasonably well expose the many parts of the NWO (illuminat, Masons, Catholic church ect) for what they are - satanists - but miss the NWO's connection to their own faith. I'm not saying they did it deliberately to hide something, only that sometimes it's hard to see the 'bigger picture' and where you happen to fit in.

                        I think Christianity's connections are deliberately made more obvious by the NWO to decimate the Christian population firstly through disillusionment (think of how many Christians have become Buddhists, Muslims or into the New Age Movement (basically pagans) and other religions) and later to give Muslims the (false) moral justification to attack the Christian world who is seen to be run by satanists. In fact those videos produced by Muslims exposing the NWO make a plea to true Christians as children of God to join them in what they see as the coming great struggle/war for God against the satanist NWO.

                        The Islamic Connection to Rome
                        The Islamic Connection to Rome - YouTube

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                        • Brian
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                          • Oct 2011
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                          Reposted here for reference.
                          Brian Post025 "Republican Presidential Candidates" thread.
                          Can we get a discussion on this important event? Personally, I've always been a Ron Paul supporter, I would love to see him win the GOP nomination and see him debate against Obama. Paul's views really appeal to me, and how he has always stood strong with his views and has never changed them even though he has endured a


                          A good detailed explanation of the (false) political spectrum.

                          G. Edward Griffin: The Collectivist Conspiracy - YouTube



                          Charlotte Iserbyt: The Miseducation of America - YouTube

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                          • Brian
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                            This video is a bit fast but it catches a lot more movies with their hidden messages.

                            By the way I heard from someone that they thought the driver of Kennedy car was the one to do the final shot. I bring this up because the video uses Kennedy's speech on secret societies as evidence that they exist and then shows what happened to him presumably for being against them. I can't be sure if it's true or not but watch the head of the driver - Kennedy has been shot once and is shaky, the driver turns to look at him then drives off. What looks weird is the extended length of time the driver spends looking over his shoulder and how much his is turned as oppose to someone just taking a glance back. His job is to drive the President away in any situation and not be a 'rubber-neck'. If it's true then the pistol had to be in his left hand. I can't really tell if his left hand is on the wheel or is it his right.

                            Hollywood's Subliminal Visual Warning Premeditated 911 And Other Cult Symbolism
                            Hollywood's Subliminal Visual Warning Premeditated 911 And Other Cult Symbolism - YouTube

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                            • Brian
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                              Important News.

                              Another conspiracy solved.

                              Ground braking news on the location of the "Simpsons" town of Springfield. Now fans can settle those bets on where the town is located - how right/close were you?

                              I have to say I got suckered by the references to "Cpital City", the fictitious capital city of the State were the Simpsons live.

                              The "Capital City Song" is a parody of "New York, New York" and street names like "4th Street and D" and a population of 6 million something also lends itself to the idea it New York hence "Springfield" must be in the East although the "Golden Gate" type bridge didn't fit.

                              Well now we know it's Springfield, Oregon.

                              Salem is the capital city of Oregon.





                              The bridge reminds me of the bridge in 'Springfield' ("the only way out of town" in the Bart's commit episode).

                              Where as Portland looks a bit more like "Capital City".




                              And does this guy look like a grown-up Bart or what?


                              Police officer Jason Molony and Edgar Aguilar at Springfield high school in the Oregon town that became a model for The Simpsons. Photograph: Rory Carroll for the Guardian

                              Although...the "Oregon Home Town Locator" website has an unusual symbol...



                              "Simpsons" creator reveals the real Springfield



                              11 April 2012
                              The tales of Homer Simpson and his family have become embedded in television lore, but ever wonder where Springfield, the illustrious hometown of "The Simpsons," is really based?

                              The town of Springfield has become a character of its own on the popular animated TV show, serving as the backdrop to the adventures of the Simpson family. But in 23 years on air, the show's creator has kept the real location of the town veiled, saying he didn't want to "ruin it for people" -- until now.

                              In an interview with Smithsonian Magazine's May issue, Matt Groening revealed that the animated town is based on Springfield, Oregon, near his childhood hometown of Portland.

                              He also was inspired to use the town's name after it was featured on the 1950s television show "Father Knows Best."

                              "I also figured out that Springfield was one of the most common names for a city in the U.S. In anticipation of the success of the show, I thought, 'This will be cool; everyone will think it's their Springfield.' And they do," said the show's creator.

                              The tales of donut-loving father Homer J. Simpson and his dysfunctional family, wife Marge and kids Bart, Lisa and Maggie, have become a staple of American culture, winning 27 Emmy awards, earning a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame, and even coining a new word as Homer's expression "D'Oh" entered the Oxford English Dictionary in 2011.

                              The Simpson family are named after Groening's family -- father Homer (named after the Greek poet Homer), mother Margaret and sisters Lisa and Maggie.

                              Bart is based on the creator himself, although Groening changed the name from 'Matt' to 'Bart' because he "had this idea of an angry father yelling 'Bart,' and Bart sounds kind of like bark—like a barking dog," and he thought it would sound funny.

                              The inspirations drawn from Oregon didn't just stop at the town name. Groening also said he named some of the characters after streets in Portland, including Reverend Lovejoy, the school bully Kearney and the Simpsons' annoyingly loveable neighbor Ned Flanders.

                              Even the address that America's favorite animated family live at, 632 Evergreen Terrace, is named after Groening's own childhood home address.

                              "The Simpsons" was created by Groening for Fox television and first aired in 1989. It is the longest-running American sitcom in history, broadcast in more than 100 countries and 50 languages, and it still attracts an average 7.7 million U.S. viewers weekly.
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                              • Brian
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                                Following on the previous theme that the Khasar Jews are not the real Jews of the Bible but are usurpers who seek to use this high possition (ie how many times have you heard they are the 'Chosen People'?) to
                                stand at a safe distance while continuing their Babalonian faith in secret and form the core of the illuminati satanic cult to enslave humanity (ie God's People) there are some more videos I'd like you to consider.

                                By the way, it has been said that Israel targets the West with nuclear missiles as a blackmail for aid - if Israel is left to go down by their enemies then their taking everyone down with them and hence one of the reasons for the West's undying support for Israel no matter what.

                                What can be seen slowly immerging is a class of haves and have nots - nothing new you say - until you look at who's in each group.

                                The New Jewish Class Wars
                                The New Jewish Class Wars - YouTube

                                Well their 'smart', so what if they make money, right?

                                They litterally make money - the Federal Reserve Act was passed on Christmass Eve 1913 when noone was looking.

                                The Federal Reserve Bank is NOT a government agency, but in fact a private run for profit bank and the lynch-pin of Jews 'theft' of the USA and the world. I think you would agree that most people don't mind
                                someone making money from their labour - they earned it - but when that laboure is deciet, be it the Federal Reserve or the shonky used car salesman, most people think it's wrong and outright theft.

                                For those who don't know, when the Government wants to spend money they raise a Money Bill instructing the Reserve Bank to print X amount of dollars which then the Federal Reserve LOANS BACK to the Government at interest. This is kind of like you taking a cash advance on your credit card - you owe the bank the amout you took plus interest until you pay it all back. Now think about this, if you had the power to create your own money (as the Government does) to put in circulation why would you litterally GIVE the bank YOUR money only to then immediately withrraw it as a loan to which you now have to pay interest on - it's not like the Federal Reserve has/had the money to loan you in the first place. Why would the Government 'CHOOSE' to borrow their own money and pay interest on it when it could just print it themselves - is it THAT hard to print money? - and NOT pay ANY interest on that money??? What is the Government paying interest on???, their OWN money, WTF??? Can you see how this is a scam??? Do you know what the interest on Trillions (yes with a T) of dollars is? If the Government did NOT pay Billions of dollars in interest alone wouldn't it mean those Billion could go to more schools, hospitals, roads, ect??? Next time you hear there's not enough money for this or that ask yourself why is the Government litteraly GIVING Billions of dollars to a sellect few PRIVATE indeviduals via the Reserve Bank?

                                The Reserve Bank has many share holders amongst whom are the six mega-banks the public had to recently (2008) bailout and a long list of indeviduals and companies ie the eleit who are mostly Jews. If this isn't a scam and outright theft what is??? If your not pissed then why not?

                                Do NOT think it is just money, so what? Money buys power and can and does change the course of history and cost the lives of hundreds millions of people and the misury of thousands of times that. A case in point is the murder of Czar Nicholas II and his familly and the millions of Russians who died under Communism and fighting against it.

                                Communism is a Jewish invention.

                                The Jews Who Murdered Tsar Nicholas II
                                The Jews Who Murdered Tsar Nicholas II - YouTube

                                Jews Killed Millions part1



                                Jews killed Million part2
                                Jews killed Million part2 - YouTube

                                NOTE that at least 75% of the Commissars (ie 'Gods' with litterally the power of life and death of millions) in Russia were Jews. Why did they have/deserve such power over ordinary Orthodox Russians and other Eastern Block countries??? Remember from the Czar Nicholas II video where did Trotsky and the Gold Bullion to finance the Communist (read Jewish) revolution come from - the Jewish Bankers in the USA? Do you still think there isn't a conspiracy going on??? Who do you think ran Communism when your families land and assets were forcibly taken plundging your familly into poverty??? Who do you think ENGINEERED the 1930's world depression and all the misery and death that came with it???

                                It didn't just cost the lives of a few Ruskys and others. Think of the millions of USA, British and other Wester lives lost in WW1 and every war thereafter.


                                World War 1: What Happened?
                                World War 1: What Happened? - YouTube


                                Jim Marrs - The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy
                                Jim Marrs - The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy - YouTube
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