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And Moses would have been an ass (lucky) to predict this tsunami to happen at that moment. The Egyptians should have known that when you see the tide going out, run like fuck because its a sure sign of a tsunami. Those silly Egyptians.
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Feel free to provide scientific evidence for your beliefs or refute the scientific evidence I have already provided.Originally posted by makedonin View PostNo need for that, it is your jurisdiction and realm!
Have fun while it lasts
I really wonder what is going on in your lala land when you say something like this:
and than complain about science and throw bs around. Science has more conclusive evidence than your Bible and creationist camp will ever dream to have, and yet you stick to the foolishnes.
You really are Model example of Pauls ideology:
"we [are] fools because of Christ" 1 Corinthians 4:10If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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One should give the Bible the credit, sometimes it is pro animal rights:
Talking ass wow.28And Jehovah openeth the mouth of the ass, and she saith to Balaam, `What have I done to thee that thou hast smitten me these three times?'
Numbers 22:28
This days, just like with the miracles thing, God forgot to fight the animals abuse, exactly when it is most needed.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.Comment
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Even if we ignore the many difficulties facing Darwinian theory and the lack of convincing evidence for macro-evolution, one compelling reason exists for dismissing it completely: the accidental emergence of complex life-forms does not become more probable by being divided up into many little steps.
Since the evolutionary process is ‘blind’ because it has no conscious purpose or ‘target’ at which it is aiming, there is no reason why all the little steps required for the development of the human eye, for instance, should occur at the right time and in the right order.
To quote one agnostic scientific critic of Darwinism, Richard Milton, writing in his book, The Facts of Life (Corgi Books, 1992, p.180): “The improbability of step number 2 correctly following step number 1, correctly followed by step number 3 and so on for 100 mutations, is as great as leaping to the 100th step in one go…It does not become any easier for an eye to come into being just because the first of the 100 or 1,000 accidents needed has taken place, even if that first step is a very important general innovation such as light-sensitive tissue.”
The next random mutation may be a wrong step, “such as providing eyelids before providing the muscles to move them, thus blinding their possessor.” Even if favourable mutations did accumulate within one species, their survival value could be counterbalanced by favourable mutations within some hostile predator, or else nullified by some harmful change in climate or physical environment.
Since, in addition, most mutations are harmful, why should it be likely that enough favourable mutations would accumulate by accident to produce a progressive upward trend in organic evolution?
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Can 'irreducible complexity' really be classified as as a powerful objection? It appears to be widely dismissed as psuedoscience based on ignorance by most scientists, bioligists and peer-reviewed journals, and finds its main support in the theory of 'intelligent design' and creationists.Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
A more plausible scenario would be that the tide occurred just as the Israelites approached the waters with the falling sea level lasting long enough for them to cross to the other side, after which the level rose while the Egyptians were still on their way. Tides occur everyday, the divine intervention is in the timing.Originally posted by VojnikIn the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.Comment
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I'm not sure where you got that from, but regardless, can you explain then, or provide an explanation of, how biological organisms that consist of multiple co-ordinated parts (which must all co-exist in order for it to function) evolved? If it is so readily dismissed, this should be easy.Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
P.S. I gave you the view of a Darwinian scientist as well.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Here is a list of about 800 (last count) scientists who consider darwinism to be, frankly, BS:
They come from all over the world, Christian and atheist. This is the statement that they have signed up to:
"We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."
They signed this declaration because:
During recent decades, new scientific evidence from many scientific disciplines such as cosmology, physics, biology, "artificial intelligence" research, and others have caused scientists to begin questioning Darwinism's central tenet of natural selection and studying the evidence supporting it in greater detail.
Yet public TV programs, educational policy statements, and science textbooks have asserted that Darwin's theory of evolution fully explains the complexity of living things. The public has been assured that all known evidence supports Darwinism and that virtually every scientist in the world believes the theory to be true.
The scientists on this list dispute the first claim and stand as living testimony in contradiction to the second. Since Discovery Institute launched this list in 2001, hundreds of scientists have courageously stepped forward to sign their names.
The list is growing and includes scientists from the US National Academy of Sciences, Russian, Hungarian and Czech National Academies, as well as from universities such as Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, UC Berkeley, UCLA, and others.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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I don't know the geography of the Red Sea area in order to reject the idea that a low tide causes a land bridge across from one side to the other but I am doubting it I will try find something and will return with an answerOriginally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostComment
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ON the theory of evolution it says that animals are evolving.How come there is no visible evolvement today & how come for "millions of years you have got crocodiles are the same,the shark is the same.To say that man has evolved from the monkey makes a mockery of the whole thing.Isn't man more intelligent than a monkey.Mankind is a special species.Each animal has it's own species.Each animal was made from it's own kind.
Also biodiversity means that whilst some things appear similar they are not in way related.
If evolution is true how come man is not evolving into something else.A lot of these so called skull discoveries have been proven to be just hoaxes.Out of all the "animals" on the earth man is the most intelligent,man can reason & plan,design & other qualities compassion etc.Where as the animals are guided by instinct & brute force.
If we look at the complexities of man & animals man is far more complex.It is said that man was made in the image of god.Man can have communion with his maker also mans destiny or potential is to become god in gods kingdom.To partake & be god in the next life.The animals do not have that potential.They are there to serve mankind.That's another reason why human life is so precious that god giveth & god taketh away.
The bible makes it clear that in man god is reproducing themselves,man is on a higher plane than the other animals.When got made animals he made them complete not to evolve into something else.God has a definite plan for whatever he does.That is evidence in his creation handiwork.Jesus said forgive them father for they do not understand what they do.Jesus said it's so simple a little child can understand it,Flesh & blood cannot inherit the kingdom of god only that that is of the spirit can enter the knigdom of god."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEVComment
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Hm, I have not looked at humans other than as talking apes, "monkeys that learned to build machines", for a long time.अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.Comment
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At the cosmological level, it has become increasingly apparent that the physical laws and parameters governing our universe (e.g. the force of gravity, the energy density of empty space, the difference in mass between neutrons and protons, etc.) are so exquisitely fine-tuned to permit the emergence of life, that even the tiniest alteration in any of these laws and parameters would have catastrophic consequences.
Astrophysicist, Dr Hugh Ross, for instance, has identified 148 astrophysical parameters that must be ‘just so’ for a planet to exist that can support human life, yet the odds against this happening by chance are, he calculates, many times greater than the total number of stars in the entire universe!
Given such facts, even so great an astronomer and former atheist as Fred Hoyle, has written: “I do not believe that any scientists who examined the evidence would fail to draw the inference that the laws of nuclear physics have been deliberately designed with regard to the consequences they produce inside stars.”
That and other such observations from Hoyle have prompted Harvard astronomy professor, Owen Gingerich, to comment: “Fred Hoyle and I differ on lots of questions, but on this we agree: a common sense and satisfying interpretation of our world suggests the designing hand of a super-intelligence.”
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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TV, where does the 'Intelligent Design' movement fit into your belief system?Comment
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Vangelovski you now are becoming slightly annoying I have never seen heard or breathed the scientific Community doubting the integrity of Evolution so completely everComment
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That's probably because you are completely ignorant of the issues at hand. If you want to remain in your bubble, don't continue reading this thread and especially do not look at that list of 800 scientists who have signed up to the anti-Darwinism declaration.Originally posted by Zarni View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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Phoenix, how about you provide us with at least ONE of your views before I continue boring everyone with the multitude of mine?Originally posted by Phoenix View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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