Perceptions of God, Creationism and Evolution

[makedonin]

Jankovska/Makedonin,


This will be your only warning.

I am trembling brrr.

You are now Admin, and have a big mouth. What, are you gonna ban me for stating the obvious? First show what is unrelated than talk. And follow your advice about providing evidence for your exaggerated empty claims.

I don't have interest in wasting my time again with zealots like you. Enjoy your petty comfort and don't address me any more.

Than you should be alright and save your dream.

[Zarni]

If you think the flood never existed then you are blind to the fact. Science already proved that there was a huge flood

A great flood populating the entire Earth no that never happended a much smaller isolated pocket of water well yes the difference between the two is big.

The other elements of the Noah story true and myth at the same time there this plenty of modern thought on this topic today to read and watch

[Bill77]

What about the Dinos? Can anyone explain that? Did God not create them?

Yes he did infact, there are still prehistoric creatures around today. But isn't it strange how the only ones that are around today, all live in water?

[Zarni]

The thing is if people are going to go out there claiming they have scientific evidence which disproves God etc then what is there to back Science? How do we know that carbon dating actually works? The answer is we don't even scientist themselves doubt carbon dating.

Science cant actually measure or disprove God there are no measurable variables for that but what is a fact is really smart people make really dumb statements in defence of Religion not to mention do really bad stuff in the name of it also atleast Science holds itself accountable

[Zarni]

Most people still ignorantly believe Primates and us Humans are from the same tree i.e we descend from the primates when in fact Science for 200 hundred years never has declared that.

The first person the refuses this above mentioned fact needs to be sent back in time with the Dino's.

[Zarni]

The world being created only 8000 years ago goes contra to the theory of evolution.

Christian evangels beleive our mesure of time is merley a different reality to that of Gods timing.

[Zarni]

I'm yet to see archaeological evidence that conclusively disproves the Bible.

The myth of King David is just one were Science has cast serious doubts very strongly
and then there are examples of archaeological proofs that vindecate Bibilcial stores too

[makedonin]

Yes he did infact, there are still prehistoric creatures around today. But isn't it strange how the only ones that are around today, all live in water?

Bill by all do respect that is not true.

http://www.geol.umd.edu/~jmerck/honr219d/notes/20.html

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/images/theropod_ancestry_of_birds.htm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16865395/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/big-birds-serve-stand-ins-dinosaurs/

http://digiguide.tv/pick-of-the-day/15+June+2008/documentary-dinosaurs-retro-engineering-a-species/

There Is a NatioGeographic that documents how inactive genes in birds are being activated an woala you get chicken with Sauria teeth.

[Onur]

Most of the biblical and Koran stories are from ancient Persian, Egyptian and Hindu religions. Even the names are quite same like Krishna-Christ, Brahma-Abraham. The names of the Angels in bibles and Koran like Gabriel, Michael are from ancient Persian religion. The most important christian and islamic main concepts has been copied, stolen from zoroastrianism, theistic ancient Persian religion. So, Jews didn't invent it all but they just wrote what they heard. It`s just a compilation of fairytales collected within 1000s of years. If anyone who doesn't believe this, should buy a book about zoroastrianism of 500+ BC and see from where early christians in Anatolia and then muslims in middle-east has been copied their ideas of God, afterlife, heaven&hell, Satan etc. Since Persians was literate and highly progressed people, so we know the concepts in their ancient religion and their holy book written in 500-600 BC.

If you believe the Jewish biblical calendar which says that humans are 5500 year old, then you are either ignorant or blinded by religious dogmas.

The humans wasn't cavemen at all b4 that time either. There is a 11.500 year old religious temple in Turkey and it`s pretty sophisticated. Yes, maybe people were cavemen in all other parts of the world but they definitely weren't in the old world of mesopotamia;

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showpost.php?p=66741&postcount=7

[Zarni]

At least we agree that Science has nothing more to offer than some theories based on assumptions. The only thing that science has done is consistently change its theories, so what it may accept to today may be disproven tomorrow.

Science throws theories and even assumptions then goes to amylase what can be drawn from with calculated thought
whilst religion is quit fixed it holds to a same unchanging script only to at times piggybank of Science when neede i.e the Big Bang creationists will insist only God created and complex life couldn’t evolve spontaneously because a Intelligent creator must have been behind the process when complexity in life is based on the most fundamental simplicity too

[Zarni]

There is a 11.500 year old religious temple in Turkey and it`s pretty sophisticated

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Before the established religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, Mediterranean religions flourished for millennia and the story of Jesus as so many similarities to the Persians deity

immaculate inception, rising from the dead, stuff like that

Most Christians no nothing of it

[Zarni]

Yes he did infact, there are still prehistoric creatures around today. But isn't it strange how the only ones that are around today, all live in water?

The moment I read this I thought of chicken as TM noted birds are the most direct lineage to the prehistoric

[Bill77]

Bill by all do respect that is not true.

http://www.geol.umd.edu/~jmerck/honr219d/notes/20.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16865395/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/big-birds-serve-stand-ins-dinosaurs/

http://digiguide.tv/pick-of-the-day/15+June+2008/documentary-dinosaurs-retro-engineering-a-species/

There Is a NatioGeographic that documents how inactive genes in birds are being activated an woala you get chicken with Sauria teeth.

Hi makedonin. I am not sure which bit you disagree with. If its the part when i say that only creatures that can live under water have survived?

Well apart from prehistoric creatures that can live under water, lets add creatures that can fly as well. But what do they both have in common?

They both don't depend on land to survive a flood.......oh neither did an old couple with a large boat.

Seriously though, this now poses a question on science theories about a meteor wiping out the dinosaurs. Surely bird life wouldn't have survived aswell.

The moment I read this I thought of chicken as TM noted birds are the most direct lineage to the prehistoric

Yes those chickens that survived till today,where the ones supplying breakfast for Noah's family on the boat. lol

[makedonin]

Hi makedonin.
Well apart from prehistoric creatures that can live under water, lets add creatures that can fly as well. But what do they both have in common?

They both don't depend on land to survive a flood.......oh neither did an old couple with a large boat.

Seriously though, this now poses a question on science theories about a meteor wiping out the dinosaurs. Surely bird life wouldn't have survived aswell.

Bill if you show me a birds ,like emu who are one of the closest to Sauria ,that can survive such flood for frothy days with out food and air than I might consider your hypothesis.

But seriously, that is not the only difficulty creationists face when battling for the flood story.

But Bill, I respect your belief therefore want to avoid discussion which will end in senseless arguing.

Have nice day mate.

[Vangelovski]

The myth of King David is just one were Science has cast serious doubts very strongly
and then there are examples of archaeological proofs that vindecate Bibilcial stores too

Zarni,

The same goes for you as for anyone else. You've made a whole bunch of vague statements without actually backing anything up.

Above you claim that 'science' has "cast serious doubts" about King David. Provide specific information.