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You boyz are on fire today......
OM
A word of warning.....stop taking the bait!
You boyz are on fire today......
OM
A word of warning.....stop taking the bait!
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Is it my fault they have comprehension problems.Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
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Was there really ANYTHING out of place…
Did I really need to explain why Royal Cola is still on the topic…by the way it was introduce into the thread by the other poster anyway.
If one person was being an absolute idiot did the demigods need to try and out do him in stupidity or is this another example of your bash with insults into submission tactics.
Have they heard of the saying put up or shut up. Cite examples and Ill prove they are both logical and sensible like my posts in this thread.
Maybe they can put theirs in and find their brains.C'mon mate, get your head out of your arse...Comment
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It goes to the point…if this...their posts above...is yours and their level of humor then it shows their deficiencies.Originally posted by makedonche View Post
Is this humor on a professional level or for the pub.
YouTube - 'Long, stabby thing'
I know they will say you cant take a joke…that’s what everyone who engages in bully boy tactic says when they are caught out but intelligent people can see what is a joke and what is just insults to create the option that you are stupid and not worth considering at all so as to quash any other views differing to theirs. If that’s not sam bendisan than what is.
Did I take their bait or they mine. Their stupidity is plain for all to see
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Starting with the premise that a site like this can serve to attract Macedonians and inform them of vital issues and through logical debate modify thoughts and help formulate actions to that which would best aid Macedonia in her current struggle for recognition and advancement I decided to join and try to be as I said in my opening post a positive influence.
I saw on this site much valuable information…particularly the history section…but also a disharmony between members when views differed even only slightly. More importantly some arguments were framed with half-truths omissions illogical form and a lack of objective view to consequence…eg Yugoslav times were great and so what if they are remembered and honored or so what if we holiday in Greece ect. I have always tried to acknowledge where points had merit but also offer and alternative view to present the case that although they may be right in some things there maybe more to the story and hence not quite as they imagined it. Some on the site have enjoyed discussing issues while others appear to stake their claim and seek devotees like demigods basking in their own glory.
You guys have your predisposed views on a variety of issues…the flag the name politicians social issues in and out of Macedonia…with an absolute self righteousness that any differing view no matter how large or small the deviation from yours you initially engage in debate but failing to instantly prevail…why shouldn’t you after all you are always absolutely right…you instantly switch from playing the ball to playing the man with absurd unfounded personal critiques to restore balance in your tiny world more often then not in illogical form. You never let logic or truth get in the way to clobber anyone into your way of thinking. I am not the only one to notice this.
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Was there really ANYTHING out of place…
Did I really need to explain why Royal Cola is still on the topic…by the way was introduce into the thread by the other poster anyway.
If one person was being an absolute idiot did the demigods need to try and out do him in stupidity or is this another example of your bash with insults into submission tactics…something you feel you can do with impunity because the brain dead morons without a free though between them who cheer your ever word are so lost they wont even understand why your wrong so no matter how moronic juvenile and unbecoming your action will still prostate themselves to there demigods at the holly alter of the MTO.
Initially I was not surprised to find that others had also notice…after all a number of intelligent people have posted on this site and your tactics are very blatant…but after some time the site got into its rut of the demigods say rar and the minions say yes while any voices of free though started disappearing…I guess they could be bothered trading unimaginative tacky insults anymore every time they had an opinion.
After a while of this rut I was then surprised to see there was some inelegant life left on this site who still dared to have an opinion and true to form they were belittled not only without cause but more so defamed like bitching on street corner.
Serdarot called it UDBAski tactics and correctly noted that it isolates people from them…have you noticed the number of regular posters has diminished to the demigods and their minions and the odd few free thinkers.
Have a read through the thread
Macedonian Truth Forum > На Македонски > Германија речи Македонија
And if you are capable to comprehend it you will understand what I mean.Comment
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OMOriginally posted by OziMak View PostIt goes to the point…if this...their posts above...is yours and their level of humor then it shows their deficiencies.
Is this humor on a professional level or for the pub.
YouTube - 'Long, stabby thing'
I know they will say you cant take a joke…that’s what everyone who engages in bully boy tactic says when they are caught out but intelligent people can see what is a joke and what is just insults to create the option that you are stupid and not worth considering at all so as to quash any other views differing to theirs. If that’s not sam bendisan than what is.
Did I take their bait or they mine. Their stupidity is plain for all to see.
Nemoi taka da se lutish na ednash! I read it and it made me laugh - whether it was professional/pub/gutter humour is irrelevant. Sometimes you take things to heart that you should dimiss without a second thought.
On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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OM,
If it makes you feel better, I haven't even read your post on Royal Cola. I was refering to your analogies in general
But I do apologise, you do not deserve to be mocked. Just don't cry foul when I point out your irrelevant commentaries in a "professional" manner, seeing that is what you have asked for.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John AdamsComment
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OMOriginally posted by OziMak View PostStarting with the premise that a site like this can serve to attract Macedonians and inform them of vital issues and through logical debate modify thoughts and help formulate actions to that which would best aid Macedonia in her current struggle for recognition and advancement I decided to join and try to be as I said in my opening post a positive influence.
I saw on this site much valuable information…particularly the history section…but also a disharmony between members when views differed even only slightly. More importantly some arguments were framed with half-truths omissions illogical form and a lack of objective view to consequence…eg Yugoslav times were great and so what if they are remembered and honored or so what if we holiday in Greece ect. I have always tried to acknowledge where points had merit but also offer and alternative view to present the case that although they may be right in some things there maybe more to the story and hence not quite as they imagined it. Some on the site have enjoyed discussing issues while others appear to stake their claim and seek devotees like demigods basking in their own glory.
You guys have your predisposed views on a variety of issues…the flag the name politicians social issues in and out of Macedonia…with an absolute self righteousness that any differing view no matter how large or small the deviation from yours you initially engage in debate but failing to instantly prevail…why shouldn’t you after all you are always absolutely right…you instantly switch from playing the ball to playing the man with absurd unfounded personal critiques to restore balance in your tiny world more often then not in illogical form. You never let logic or truth get in the way to clobber anyone into your way of thinking. I am not the only one to notice this.
Post013
Was there really ANYTHING out of place…
Did I really need to explain why Royal Cola is still on the topic…by the way was introduce into the thread by the other poster anyway.
If one person was being an absolute idiot did the demigods need to try and out do him in stupidity or is this another example of your bash with insults into submission tactics…something you feel you can do with impunity because the brain dead morons without a free though between them who cheer your ever word are so lost they wont even understand why your wrong so no matter how moronic juvenile and unbecoming your action will still prostate themselves to there demigods at the holly alter of the MTO.
Initially I was not surprised to find that others had also notice…after all a number of intelligent people have posted on this site and your tactics are very blatant…but after some time the site got into its rut of the demigods say rar and the minions say yes while any voices of free though started disappearing…I guess they could be bothered trading unimaginative tacky insults anymore every time they had an opinion.
After a while of this rut I was then surprised to see there was some inelegant life left on this site who still dared to have an opinion and true to form they were belittled not only without cause but more so defamed like bitching on street corner.
Serdarot called it UDBAski tactics and correctly noted that it isolates people from them…have you noticed the number of regular posters has diminished to the demigods and their minions and the odd few free thinkers.
Have a read through the thread
Macedonian Truth Forum > На Македонски > Германија речи Македонија
And if you are capable to comprehend it you will understand what I mean.
I understand what you are saying, you make many valid points, your analysis is detailed and eloquently written. If I may make a few points here that hopefully shed more light or improve objectivity or at least encourage more active participation.
1. This is a Macedonian website that is constantly being attacked by pretend Macedonians/imposters in various ways - there are certain actions that can be taken to challenge those who would come here to deny our right to exist and actually have an opinion and foster our identity. This is clearly laid out in the "Macedonian Cause", which by the way was compiled by MTO members in a democratic manner, and is still open to improvement/comment/criticism.
2. Whilst the methodology of replies and opinions varies from member to member, we are all subject to the same scrutiny - as you would expect on a democratic forum.
3. Any Macedonian with his heart truly holding the Macedonians culture/language identity etc. as invaluable and untouchable should not be offended when any of his/her ideaology/opinions/behaviour/actions are challenged/mocked/made fun of - it is a mere test of patriotism/loyalty and devotion to the cause. When somebody spits the dummy and doesn't want to post here because they were belittled/abused/challenged, then that says a lot about their character and the strength of their will and ability to cope with the situation - for whatever reason they decide to leave here it speaks volumes of their dedication/motives and ability to accept criticism or critical thinking - there are far greater challenges we will need to face, cope with and overcome, than being poorly treated on a forum.
So Pochit (if I may use Indigen's signature)On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"Comment
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you know there is a solution to this thread if you got trouble just add a bit of coke to your
whisky.I think there is a song on that.And all you problems will be solved."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEVComment
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We are indeed trying to remove all forms of inelegant life on this forum.Originally posted by OziMak View Post
OM, I don't think I read your post on RC Cola. I am sure it was great. We went from amusing little quips to name calling from you. Have you murdered your tormentors from primary school yet? Build a bridge and get over it.
Referring to the German thread, is it safe to assume you support initiatives like "Say NO to FYROM"?
The biggest driver to that slogan was Soros and Co.
We should support anything that "seems" good even though its organisers are flawed or the campaign itself has glaring inconsistencies?
The problem with Macedonians (which stems from a subservient mentality) is that the message of campaigns is often diluted by fear of complete and unadulterated prioritising of Macedonian demands as against anybody else. God forbid we upset anyone whilst demanding to be treated as Macedonians!
The MTO is single-handedly forcing Macedonians in the Diaspora to question every demand a Macedonian makes. Alas, the ones who find the MTO message too extreme have already been infected by the MTO virus. Before they try their next campaigns, they can hear us bemoaning their inconsistencies. Which means they try harder. A win for all Macedonians. We have already made a difference.
Doing anything less will only ensure we perpetuate the same dribble passed of as activism in the past 15 years.
My advice to all MTO naysayers is "shape up or look forward to more of the same rubbish of the last 15 years".Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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