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  • George S.
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    the future of Macedonia;
    Albanians in Macedonia keen to be part of a bigger country
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    Last edited by George S.; 06-19-2014, 12:53 PM.

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  • Risto the Great
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    The music kills me.

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  • Niko777
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    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/25536/46/



    The last sentence absolutely floored me.
    If that is happening in Albania, I have no hesitation in saying the lawlessness in Western Macedonia would easily promote and duplicate this kind of activity.


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  • George S.
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    replicate is right t.There is already a black market and drug market flourishing in macedonia.I think authorities are just drawing a blind eye.All that extends into Kosovo right through the eu nations.Thats why the americans want a free Kosovo to get the drug trade.

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  • Risto the Great
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    Albanian police beaten back by Drug Traffickers



    Police raided a cannabis plantation in a lawless Albanian municipality on Monday, exchanging fire with locals who responded with anti-tank grenades and heavy machineguns.

    There were no casualties in the gun battle in Lazarat, a village some 150 km (100 miles) south of the capital Tirana that has long been a no-go area for police who risk being shot by drugs gangs.

    The raid was launched after police came under fire on Saturday as they started the first serious security operation against the marijuana growers who have made the area their fiefdom in the more than two decades since the end of communist rule.

    The security crackdown began just days before the European Union's 28 member states decide whether to confirm Albania as a candidate to eventually join the bloc - something that would require convincing undertakings about the rule of law.

    After hours of gunfire since dawn, police appeared to have taken control of the building from which they were fired upon on Saturday, but no arrests were made in the sprawling village that sits on the main road to the Greek border.
    "We are determined to walk the path of justice and rule of law," Interior Minister Saimir Tahiri told reporters in Tirana.
    "I call upon those in Lazarat who have taken up arms against the police ... to drop their weapons and let the police do their job. Otherwise, the force of law will act like never before."

    Television footage showed a car belonging to a television station on fire and smoke billowing from what reports said were cannabis plants.
    The village, where thousands of laborers are employed in the drug cultivation, has been beyond government control since the late 1990s.

    Dasho Aliko, the village chief, appealed for calm, told villagers to stay indoors and blamed the trouble on a small number of "bad apples" in the local population.
    "It is unforgivable that a part of the community stains the whole community," he told local television.
    The Lazarat municipality exports some 4.5 billion euros worth of marijuana each year, which is 45% of the entire Albanian GDP.
    The last sentence absolutely floored me.
    If that is happening in Albania, I have no hesitation in saying the lawlessness in Western Macedonia would easily promote and duplicate this kind of activity.

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  • Alex_MK
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    Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
    I don't know what to say. One can argue that unlike Greece, the Macedonian government hasn't invested a denar in the villages (example no roads, electricity, water, infrastructure, etc) and that could be a reason why Macedonian villages are emptying. But why isn't this an obstacle for Albanians? Why are Albanians continuing to invest in their villages instead of abandoning them for the city or western Europe?

    Are Macedonians too reliant on the government for work? Albanians seem to find no trouble finding work abroad and then building new houses. Macedonians seem to rely on getting a state job, give them an old communist apartment to rent in the city, and there happy.
    This is partly true. During the old Yugoslavia Albanians were treated as the lowest class by the ruling Yugoslav government and as a result many of them left abroad like you mentioned. The bad part is that some came back or have reinvested their money in land, buildings, homes, etc. And alot of Albanians migrated..

    Problem with us is that many of us leave for Australia making it near impossible to come back. Albanians leave for Switzerland or Italy which are a bus ride, car ride or short flight away. There was an article I read where the 2nd and even 3rd generation Albanian diaspora kids are still strong about their roots and still visit their families back at home. Don't know if this is Islam or Albanian mentality of refusing to integrate into their new host nations.

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  • George S.
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    I''m speechless Niko its a complacent govt and a do nothing approach.We have people Albanians who don't RESPECT us Macedonians also they know what they want is more of our land.Do people know they don't like being called Macedonian citizens ,they get Macedonian citizenship for benefits and voting.They get privele ges by hook or crook as they say but our Politicians are not doing anything about it .It speaks volumes and we have another Kosovo ,we can kiss our homeland good bye.We have been let down big time.
    Lastly look at the mansion and notice their flag is prominently displayed.It serves as a mockery for us that we don't appreciate nationalism as to who we are.We don't care enough to want to say enough is enough.We have been insulted long enough.The Albanians are doing it because they CAN but we CANT do anything due to our complacency.
    Last time I checked is democracy operates by the MAJORITY RULE principle.NOBODY BUT NOBODY gives rights called priveleges to their minorities and lose their soveregnity in the WAY Macedonia has.THe so called extra rights are NOT rights Macedonia exceeds the rights of its citizens & gives Albanians priveleges and Virtual secession rights of land .The Albanians control a lot of territory even the police are scared TO VENTURE into Albanian territory.Hare heroow abot letting Albanian language as second language .The Albanians don't need to learn our language what an insult they don't teach our history in their schools.They say that their fighters in 2001 are heroes.What an insult to us Macedonians.These people will not learn & respect us.
    Last edited by George S.; 06-17-2014, 05:30 PM.

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  • Niko777
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    I don't know what to say. One can argue that unlike Greece, the Macedonian government hasn't invested a denar in the villages (example no roads, electricity, water, infrastructure, etc) and that could be a reason why Macedonian villages are emptying. But why isn't this an obstacle for Albanians? Why are Albanians continuing to invest in their villages instead of abandoning them for the city or western Europe?

    Are Macedonians too reliant on the government for work? Albanians seem to find no trouble finding work abroad and then building new houses. Macedonians seem to rely on getting a state job, give them an old communist apartment to rent in the city, and there happy.

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  • George S.
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    i would say a civil war is on the cards.THe shiptars will want skopje to be seceded to them its plainly simple.Its our own fault we are too tolerant and liberal.Or should I say the finger really points to our dumb and stupid politicians who can't see more from one election to the next and to win power at any cost.But they have well and truly forgotten what is to be Macedonian.WEll see when we got nothing left.We become outcasts of our own land ,our own country.I'm really upset at the way Macedonia is going down the gurgler.

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  • Alex_MK
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    Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post
    I remember in the late 80's and early 90's when Kicevo was mainly macedonian.

    Now it literally looks like a town in albania. Same as Struga and Gostivar
    Soon Skopje will suffer the same fate

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  • Alex_MK
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    Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post
    I remember in the late 80's and early 90's when Kicevo was mainly macedonian.

    Now it literally looks like a town in albania. Same as Struga and Gostivar
    To be fair and If I'm not mistaken the Albanian language was forbidden at the time and Albanian nationalism was kept under a lid meaning no flags, no language, etc.

    Also Albanians then(and still today) still live in rural areas. Albanian villages are thriving with a healthy population and with family members sending money back home to build mansions and I'm not joking about the mansion parts.. Drive by Albanian villages and you'll see mansions and lavished mosques.. Alot of the time no one even lives there but they just build them up for summer homes.

    For example houses like these




    Macedonian villages? I'm afraid to say it but they've all left! For Skopje or to Australia, only the old remain. The houses are run down and were built nearly 2 centuries ago.. Literally ghost towns and the whole country will be depopulated albeit for a few cities..

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  • George S.
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    If the albs play their victim cards right and there are do gooders who are complacent and capitulate they will get their way.All that bs about minority rights and stiching up deals with their Motenigin parliamentary buddies.You would call it priveleges for they want secession rights of territory.They probably got every right under the sun.Pretty soon the montinegros will have the same problems as Macedonia.There is no end to it.The us ,the eu etc these doogooders want other countries to share their homeland.Give away their homeland is more apt.They themselves wouldn't budge given the same circumstances.
    One should say to them you behave or get expelled for inciting trouble afterall existing countries have to keep theeir inviolability of borders intact.Basically the Albanians are trying to achieve their status of a homeland within the borders of either Macedonia etc & then they will link up with Kosovo.I think I read a magazine article is their aim is to achieve the goal of complete secession of Macedonia by 2025.According to the albs they think they will be more than the Macedonians & their ultimate goal is to link up with Kosovo.

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  • Volokin
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    Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post
    I would love to see the shiptars start a little conflict in Crna Gora. It would possibly be a good wake up call to the rest of the balkan dummies on the dangers of shiptar expansion.

    But it wont happen. The shiptars make up only less than 5% of the total population. Looks like crna gora are safe from greater albania
    No one is safe, is only a matter of time. They will migrate to Montenegro with a purpose. They've taken Kosovo, currently taking Macedonia and Preshevo and then Montenegro is next.

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  • George S.
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    BBs dare I say a greater Albania and the albanisation of macedonnia is in full swing and nobody can stop it.The govt could have taken steps like other countries.Some countries preserve their fatherland we don't we would like to share our country for the common good of the Albanians.In other words we should only blame ourselves & the stupid govt

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  • Big Bad Sven
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    I remember in the late 80's and early 90's when Kicevo was mainly macedonian.

    Now it literally looks like a town in albania. Same as Struga and Gostivar

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