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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    Originally posted by Valmir View Post
    Maybe we wrote graffitis of the Natural Albania but not of "Alah Akbar"
    What is natural Albania? Is this before you became muslim and took advantage of the right to bear arms or after?
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      Originally posted by Valmir View Post
      Macedonia is not ruled by the Albanians, you think like this for you Politicans just like Albanians think that their Politicans are owned by the Macedonians.
      Ahhh, you don't understand the framework agreement then. Look it up one day and tell your friends about it.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • Valmir
        Banned
        • Sep 2011
        • 112

        It must kill you to live in a country where they are the majority. You should tell them how you feel more often. Oh, that's right ... you do.
        I dont really feel mad if there are more Macedonians in the country live than Albanians.And neve rin my life offended a Macedonian or had any problem.

        I disagree. The Macedonian side has not even come close to the Kosovo fueled madness coming from ethnic Albanians.
        And you will never come, we dont hate Macedonians as we hate Serbs.

        You pretend you come from Macedonia and call it "your nation" ... pull the other one Valmir.
        I dont really said "My nation" with the meaning that i am Macedonian but just wanted to tell that we dont feel foreigners in the territory we are living.

        It would be your nation as well and you might be less inclined to destroy it if that was the case.
        You should have assimilated Albanians and other minorities when you had the chance but now its too late and they will not feel anything for Macedonia.


        Did you ever explain your understanding of the framework agreement and why you feel the rights of ethnic Albanians in Macedonia are non existent?
        Even if we had more rights than the Macedonians, we dont really care about Macedonia, we are working on the Greater Albania Project bro or you forgot it?

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        • Niko777
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1895

          Originally posted by Valmir View Post
          Every week? OH COMMON
          On average 3 or 4 per month in the last 3 months.

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          • George S.
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 10116

            Valmir what your kind did in 2001 was to illegally bear arms & try to destabilize the country so that you could take over.Lucky for you the nato intervened & gave your terrorists safe passage.Look how untrustworthy they are handing in only old pre 1st world war arms.They kept the new ones for another day.See there was no need to do that under the constitution that's if you are a macedonian citizen all rights of a democracy you are afforded those rights.You had nothing to gain unless you were after the ultimate prize secession from macedonia.So you have to chose whether you are a macedonian citizen first or albanian second .All rights would be afforded to you. you can learn albanian until you can't learn.Isn't it ridiculous of taking up of arms against the
            state is completely illegal the whole western world condemn it.
            Also had there been no interference from the west you would have lost that war.Our armed services were far more superior than your forces.Today there would be no
            albanian problem.I think the real problem is wanting a greater albania & connecting with kosovo.If this sort of thing happens again.The macedonian state will muster all it's strengh & destroy your kind once & for all.You can prevent all this from happening by learning to be like a macedonian first & living peacefully within the confines of rom.Failure to do this you will be thrown out to kosovo ,you woouldn't want that would you.??I nearly forgot to say that you respect us we will respect you if you don't be prepared for another fucking war.We don't want your kind in our country if you don't cooperate.If you cooperate all will be well it's really your own doing.
            Last edited by George S.; 03-07-2012, 05:21 PM.
            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
            GOTSE DELCEV

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            • Valmir
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 112

              Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
              On average 3 or 4 per month in the last 3 months.
              We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.

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              • Mygdon
                Junior Member
                • May 2009
                • 90

                Originally posted by Valmir View Post
                We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.
                as if those "carnival jokes" were explicitly directed at Albanians.
                Last edited by Mygdon; 03-07-2012, 05:49 PM.

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                • Vangelovski
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 8532

                  Originally posted by Valmir View Post
                  We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.
                  Valmir, has your village ever heard of free speach? What about the term 'get over it'? They're important concepts, you should look into them and then tell your friends about them.
                  If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                  The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15658

                    Originally posted by Valmir View Post
                    We never touched a church till you made those jokes in your Carnivals.
                    Actually, you "touched" them a whole lot before that.
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      Originally posted by Valmir View Post
                      Even if we had more rights than the Macedonians, we dont really care about Macedonia, we are working on the Greater Albania Project bro or you forgot it?
                      I hope you're joking. Because this is why there should be a war in Macedonia.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • chentovist
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 130

                        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                        I hope you're joking. Because this is why there should be a war in Macedonia.
                        Whether he's joking or not, this is the reality of the situation. All Macedonians and Macedonian politicians need to keep this in the back of their minds. We need to be prepared for the coming war.

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                        • Niko777
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1895

                          Even if we had more rights than the Macedonians, we dont really care about Macedonia, we are working on the Greater Albania Project bro or you forgot it?
                          Valmir please explain your statement, are you saying that you are working to destabilize Macedonia to create a greater Albania?

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                          • Niko777
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1895

                            Skopje Mulls Call For Albanian Street Names


                            Written by: Balkan Insight

                            March 6, 2012


                            By Sinisa Jakov Marusic

                            If ethnic Albanian parties in Macedonia get their way, the capital may soon get its first batch of streets renamed after Albanian heroes.

                            Authorities in Skopje have started evaluating proposals from Macedonia’s two largest Albanian parties to rename about 50 streets in the capital after ethnic Albanian heroes.

                            The proposals come from the Democratic Union for Integration, DUI, which is part of the centre-right government, and the opposition Democratic Party of Albanians, DPA.

                            Albanians make up about a quarter of country’s population and about the same proportion of the population of Skopje.

                            Streets named after the 15th-century Albanian warrior George Kastrioti Skanderbeg, the writer Ismail Kadare, former Albanian Prime Minister Hasan Prishtina and the 19th-century Albanian revolutionary Dervish Cara are likely to be approved by the city council, sources in the DUI told Balkan Insight.

                            There have also been proposals to name streets after the Albanian capital, Tirana, and the Kosovo capital, Prishtina.

                            “It is high time that street names started to reflect reality in the capital,” a DUI member of the city council said.

                            Macedonia’s main ruling party, VMRO DPMNE, remains cagey about whether it will back the changes. This party holds a majority on the city council.

                            “I’m only hearing for the first time that we have agreed to change street names,” the coordinator of the VMRO DPMNE caucus on the council, Dafinka Sazdova, said.

                            Unofficially, the renaming of Skopje streets for the first time in two decades is part of a wider bid to refresh Skopje’s old odonyms that mainly date from the Socialist era. VMRO DPMNE and DUI officials say a list of about 1,000 new street names is in the pipeline.

                            Violeta Ackovska, history professor at Skopje state university, says changing the names is a natural process. “History in the Balkans is turbulent and each change in the political system brings its own heroes,” she noted.

                            But she urges caution, saying a consensus needs to be reached that the person chosen for the honour has played a positive role in the country’s history.

                            In 2001 Macedonia saw an armed conflict between Albanian insurgents and Macedonian security forces. The conflict ended the same year with a peace accord that guaranteed greater tights to Albanians.

                            As part of the deal, Skopje altered its street signs to include names written in Albanian. But the actual street names have remained unchanged from the Yugoslav era.

                            The last attempt to rename some 40 streets in Skopje happened in 1993, shortly after Macedonia became independent. However, the Constitutional Court annulled this move.

                            As a result, Skopje’s central square which then was renamed “Macedonia”, is still formally named after former Yugoslav leader Marshal Tito.

                            By Sinisa Jakov Marusic If ethnic Albanian parties in Macedonia get their way, the capital may soon get its first batch of streets renamed after Albanian heroes. Authorities in Skopje have started evaluating proposals from Macedonia's two largest Albanian parties to rename about 50 streets in the capital after ethnic Albanian heroes. The proposals come...

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                            • Brian
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1130

                              NO Albanians were being hurt or prevented to speak their language or practice their religion.
                              Originally posted by Valmir View Post
                              This takes too much discussion boy
                              LOL.
                              Are you seriously saying prior to 2001 Albanians were prevented from practising their religion or speaking their language??? Where?

                              Did you not have Albanian as a language in state schools?

                              It doesn't sound very oppressive to me.LOL

                              IF you mean could you speak Albanian in parliament or council offices or shops to anyone, then you are right. But WHY should you???

                              In Australia or just about any country there is 1 language used by everyone for official uses and in Macedonia that language is Macedonian. Ahhh, but Albanians are supposed to be 25% of the population (disputed anyway, more like 16-17%). And so what? That means 75% do not speak Albanian, so why should 3 out of every 4 people have to learn Albanian just for you. Now maybe if you were 50%?

                              If it is a minority language and your are supported by the state to learn it in state schools why does it need to be used in Maths, Geography, History, ect classes?

                              So why did we need a war? Could not greater use of the language be something that could be negotiated particularly for school which have a heavy majority of Albanians?

                              Does Albanian have to be used in parliament?

                              Do we need a law that specifically says the Albanians have to approve any new law or it doesn't pass - do you realise that by this you value 1 Albanian vote equal to 3 none Albanian votes thus devaluing everyone else's vote by 2/3. Why should you have this special right? Why shouldn't other peoples vote be equal to 1 vote like the Albanians? You don't want equality rights you want superiority rights and that is discrimination in itself! Show me another country where this happens.

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                              • Brian
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1130

                                Originally posted by Valmir View Post
                                Every World MAFIA does these things, but the bad thing is that western medias are exposing the Albanian mafia more than others.
                                If you didn't know before: The Russian mafia even works with Nuclear weapons
                                Valmir other mafias do this stuff but you get a special mention for doing more by the EU not the Western media.

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