Greeks Terrorize Macedonian Tourists in Halkidiki

[thessalo-niki]

National Bank of Greece

The National Bank of Greece bought another 20 % of the shares in Comercijalna Banka.
According to the value of capital and network of branches Comercijalna Banka AD Skopje is the largest bank in the country.
It was taken from the largest banking group in Southeast Europe, National Bank of Greece in early 2000.
Amazing isn't

Actually the most impressive recent move of the National Bank of Greece, was buying Finansbank, the 5th largest bank of Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bank_of_Greece

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Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Prolet]

You should stay in an average hotel in New York...

And we are talking about a CONCRETE JUNGLE for God's sake...

Give me the LAKE anytime...

I really don't know what you guys expect to pay or what you consider fair...

Phoenix, What exactly do you mean by Concrete Jungle? New York is not exactly a place where you'd go on a holiday (Letovanje) unless you want to go sight seeing or have some business there its more tourism then anything else.

Here is an oglas in Ohrid.

http://www.pazar3.mk/ViewItem.aspx?itemId=785570

[fyrOM]

Vardarec like I have said to many of the older generations when they share their stories of disappointment amongst themselves with their relatives back in RoM and how they were treated by them did they really expect any better. We could trade stories but I am not interested in doing that suffice it to say your attitude which is like that of many if not most in RoM is best said by your quote

да ми се фатиш - ако можеш да разбереш што пишувам.

Never mind the internet you are using now could be the one donated by the usa or the euros you spend in Greece be directly or indirectly related to the eu subsidies Gruevski is slapping around everywhere or your life or that your parents may have been propped up at a critical moment long ago by someone thousands of kilometres away the only thing wrong with your quote is you left out the prefix which goes something like

Cekaj da se kacam na kojn pa cetne да ми се фатиш - ако можеш да разбереш што пишувам.

The fact that many who went into the diaspora went with limited education most year 8 a suitcase of clothes and a few bucks in their pocket to see them through their travels to a strange place where they didn’t know which way to turn to find stuff and where they knew barely one word of the language and everyone else they met knew as much as they did or less and then think they don’t care and then think of your quote.

A few posts on one could draw the conclusion I doubt you have truly felt the discrimination by the Greeks and we are in different time zones literally and figuratively speaking on the issue of the Greeks. You have this over optimistic view as if we have already won the name issue and there is nothing more to do but wait for it to sink into their heads so there is no difference where we shop or holiday ect. I would only caution never underestimate the Greeks.

[fyrOM]

Oh why not…I was going to include it in my last post but left it out

Ne mozam da ti se fatam oti sam si go drzis celovreme with the attitude that quote says.

[Serdarot]

Serdare,

are those prices for a room or for a person - bed?

300 - 400 denari for bad per night.

for 2 bad room + child bad you get charged between 700 - 900, maybe 1000 if you dont like to spend time searching and barging. ("cenkanje", dunno if its so spelled in english )

Depends also on the location, near the beach, in the city etc.
However, that's the private accomodation offered by private persons and the prices vary on the ammount of the tourists, this season is said to be worse.

exactly, private accomodation. in the area between Racha and Sveti Naum. wasnt asking for prices in the city, but i think they are same

If you look at the Hotels:

Hotel Granit:

Стандардни соби :
BB-1/2 - 49 EUR - по особа HB-1/2 - 59 EUR - по особа
BB-1/1 - 59 EUR HB-1/1 - 69 EUR
Апартмани:
BB-1/2 - 59 EUR – по особа HB-1/2 - 69 EUR – по особа
BB-1/1 - 69 EUR HB-1/1 - 79 EUR

Rezident: 260 eur. на ден – услуга BB (за сите особи)

http://www.hotelgranit.com.mk/?p=prices&lg=mk

exactly again. but there is also more. private hotels / apartements, with 3-4 stars , cost 20 - 30 euro ROOM with 2 bad per night. in the best positions on the riviera.

Here are the prices for various accomodation, Hotels in Ohrid:

http://www.elidatours-ohrid.com.mk/Cenovnici/Cenovnik%20na%20Hotelski%20uslugi%20Ohrid%20i%20Struga%202010.pdf

More less there is no cheaper than 30 EURO for a PERSON.

So, for 10 days in Ohrid one person would have to pay minimum 300 Euros, and this should be enough about the touristic (dis)advatages of Ohrid.
I think there is no need to calculate how much it would cost for a familly vacation.

And we are talking about LAKE for God's sake.

This is what counts really and that's why some famillies would chose Hotel accomodation on Agean sea for the price of a private accomodation in someone's house in Ohrid.

the diference is that Atina (Athens) will use the money that Macedonians bring to them, to fight all of us...

Macedonians...

[Bratot]

300 - 400 denari for bed per night.

for 2 bad room + child bed you get charged between 700 - 900, maybe 1000 if you dont like to spend time searching and barging. ("cenkanje", dunno if its so spelled in english )




exactly, private accomodation. in the area between Racha and Sveti Naum. wasnt asking for prices in the city, but i think they are same



exactly again. but there is also more. private hotels / apartements, with 3-4 stars , cost 20 - 30 euro ROOM with 2 bad per night. in the best positions on the riviera.




the diference is that Atina (Athens) will use the money that Macedonians bring to them, to fight all of us...

Macedonians...

Well... it was only an example to have a clear picture.

Macedonians pay million of euroes just sitting at home, buying bread and other articles from Zhito Luks, taking credits from Stopanska Banka, drinking Skopsko bear, shopping in Vero markets, using Cosmophone as operator and using Okta derivats.

Those are the profitable sectors who produce millions of euroes for the Greek state and none of our goverments did anything to change that, but instead of protecting the state from the economic take over by the Greek owners and exploatation of the Macedonian market it's easier to pass the ball on us the common people to criticize ourself for having a vacation for our own money... sorry but no one should feel any guilty untill there is such hypocrisy going on.

I could go on with other stuff but I prefer to end this discussion at this point, hopefully there will be some people to realize the suptile economic ocupation...

Pozdrav,
M

[fyrOM]

Its funny that even the newspapers are following this theme.hahaha

Reward Photographs of competition Vest Listen patriots "- Nikola Todorov, first minister caught in Greece

I knew I made after underwear

http://www.vest.com.mk/?ItemID=8DD1FE5CF954E0488C1C28AF6DD765E4

Photography award at the competition on the News, "" Listen patriots "- Minister Todorov, his wife Alexandra and three polgodishniot and son Marko are resting in Nea Pantelejmonas before Platamona, and is shot on the same beach which was caught last week, Mayor of Center Vladimir Todorovic


Minister of Education Nikola Todorov is the first government minister Nikola Gruevski gakjichki shot in the beach in Greece. Reader on the News, send us a photograph of the competition "Listen patriots", published ten days ago.
Minister Todorov is caught getting out of the sea, the beach where it was caught last week and the Mayor of Center Vladimir Todorovic. Nicholas, his wife Alexandra and three polgodishniot and son Marko are resting in Nea Pantelejmonas before Platamona, at the foot of Mount Olympus. Society made them kumovite.
"I knew they would portray me, because the beach there were many Macedonians, laughter, told us yesterday the minister, after holding a press conference on the disputed book of society.
The Minister said that he's been very "relaxing holiday and that all the time swimming or playing with my son on the beach.
Todorov is a former world champion and vaterpolist in dzhiu-dzhicu. But now is no time for sports and says maintain that form only when the summer goes on vacation. In the past year, the Minister shall be fixed 12 kg and argues that we should put four more, to restore what was.
"All my life exercise. From primary school until the completion of the faculty and was trained water polo goalie. From 2002, meanwhile, trained dzhiu-dzhicu, Japanese martial art. In 2006 I became world champion and won a gold medal in Vijaredzha, Italy. When I worked Land lost weight in 16 kg. now slowly coming back, "told us yesterday Todorov.
Competition West "Listen patriots" will continue until the end of the month and each photo with the Minister, MP or other senior
filmed this summer at the beach or leisurely atmosphere of the holiday will be paid the appropriate fee.
For-published photograph recorded in Greece, paid 6.000 denars
For-published photograph recorded in another EU member or candidate member, paid 3,000 denars
For-published photograph recorded in a friendly member NATO
pay 2000 denars.
All photographs that arrive in Editorship checked by a special jury - Commission. Remuneration of the published photographs are
paid a transaction account, and personal tax is borne by the Editorial Board.
The authors wish the pictures would remain anonymous. (R.F.)

[fyrOM]

Ahh…the old saying its not enough to do good you need to be seen to be doing good.

Prime Minister Gruevski six days rest in Turkey

http://www.vest.com.mk/?ItemID=39976335FB05A44F9CA1080D9DE68E3A

By Nicholas Borkica and older daughter was only Anastasia. Lesser Sofia remained at home with parents Borkica

Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski Borkica with his wife was six days on holiday in Turkey, said yesterday his office. They were just older daughter Anastasia. Lesser Sofia remained at home with parents Borkica.
Gruevski last appeared in public ten days ago, when the launch of a new slip road between Skopje and villages Ljuboten incident.

[George S.]

//"Macedonians pay million of euroes just sitting at home, buying bread and other articles from Zhito Luks, taking credits from Stopanska Banka, drinking Skopsko bear, shopping in Vero markets, using Cosmophone as operator and using Okta derivats."//

It's nothing short of scandelous rather than setting an example politicians arespending their money with our enemies(like greece).When we need all the money we can get & asking people to invest where is the politicians support??

[fyrOM]

Skopje to Venice 854km. Doesn’t every uni student go on a school excursion from Melb to Syd.

Its not worth posting the whole article here to simply highlight the counter argument stop thinking of RoM as this poor place as an excuse.

101 student and 15 teachers and assistants go to Venice

http://www.vest.com.mk/?ItemID=00B2F266D2DC394ABF1B5DD1B73A1E12

[Big Bad Sven]

I wouldnt go to grease for a holiday, fvck that. Why give money to a bunch of floggers who dont even respect my people, country, culture, familiy and most importantly myself. It just doesnt make sense.

Fair enough if you want to support the aegean macedonians go to lerin etc, but lets be honest here - there are no macedonians in Halkidiki.... and it appears places like Halkidiki and Solun are thriving with Golden Dawn Nazi's and supporters of that movement.......

Anyway by the looks of things it seems like macedonians are going to places like Dubai or Egypt, or even Austria, Czech republic etc more often now (looking at macedonian friends facebook pages).... Some one mentioned that Grease was in "better shape" then countries like Turkey and Croatia, i find that hard to believe as everyone that i have spoken to that has had a vacation in grease has described it pretty poorly. To tell you the truth it sounded like they were describing Bulgaria or Macedonia...

I would rather take my hard earned money and go to a place that is 1) more better and attractive then backwards grease and 2) actually respects me as a human being.

But thats just me

[George S.]

diffintely greece is off the travel list.There are other places much better & probably cheaper than greece.

[Onur]

Some one mentioned that Grease was in "better shape" then countries like Turkey and Croatia, i find that hard to believe as everyone that i have spoken to that has had a vacation in grease has described it pretty poorly. To tell you the truth it sounded like they were describing Bulgaria or Macedonia...

LOL, who told you that? Grease was competing with Turkey about 10 years ago for the last time. Currently Greece cant be compared with Turkey in any terms of tourism. I bet only one city in Turkey, Antalya attracts more tourists than whole Greece and it`s islands nowadays.

First of all, Greece mainland is at north side of Aegean sea and i know from Turkish coasts that, as far as you go to the southern mediterranean side, the quality of the coast and sea improves considerably. To be able to enjoy same quality of water, you have to go to the Greek islands close to the Turkey. Then you pay enormous prices. Also, these places are small islands in the end but in Turkey, you get same or better quality of the coasts with much better accommodation choices than Greek islands. It`s even illogical to compare Turkey`s sun/sea, history and accommodation offerings with Greece`s small islands.


2 of my friends gone to Croatia this summer and they liked it very much. I think with the current awful economical condition of Greece, Croatia will likely surpass Greece soon in terms of tourism.

[Prolet]

Onur, Whats the sea like in Cheshme these days? Do you go there for weekend or stay for a bit?

Pamukale in Turkey is definitely worth looking at

[Onur]

Onur, Whats the sea like in Cheshme these days? Do you go there for weekend or stay for a bit?

It`s perfect.

Chesme is popular among Turkish people tough cuz it`s a bit more expensive than the facilities at southern Turkey. So, stingy Germans or Brits usually doesn't come to Chesme. There are fewer 2-3 star hotels but many more 4-5 star ones. So, the price for accommodation is a bit higher than usual. Also there is a seaport in there and it`s a stopover point for big mediterranean cruisers. Chesme`s population is like %80 Turks, %20 foreign tourists.


I usually go there for only weekends like most people from Izmir since it only takes 40min. by car. Chesme is so close to the Izmir city center.