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  • Bill77
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    My son twisted my arm, so i had one done.

    I'm indigenous as one can get. So Modern Greeks...... get out of my country
    Last edited by Bill77; 02-09-2019, 02:14 AM.

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  • Carlin
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    My puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Macedonian 3.44
    2 Bulgarian 3.84
    3 Kosovar 5.46
    4 Montenegrin 5.55
    5 Romanian 5.7
    6 Albanian 5.9
    7 Greek_Thessaly 6.81
    8 Italian_Tuscan 6.9
    9 Serbian 7.48
    10 Italian_Bergamo 9.38
    11 Bosnian 11.11
    12 Greek_Central 11.7
    13 Italian_Abruzzo 12.33
    14 Croatian 12.82
    15 Moldavian 13.24
    16 Spaniard 13.73
    17 French 14.13
    18 Hungarian 15.48
    19 German_South 15.84
    20 Slovene 16.06

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.9% Albanian + 11.1% Finnish @ 1.98
    2 96.8% Macedonian + 3.2% Yakut @ 2.03
    3 84.6% Albanian + 15.4% Mordovian @ 2.06
    4 85.5% Albanian + 14.5% Russian @ 2.11
    5 96.8% Macedonian + 3.2% Koryak @ 2.12
    6 96.7% Macedonian + 3.3% Dolgan @ 2.16
    7 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Chukchi @ 2.16
    8 97.4% Macedonian + 2.6% Nganasan @ 2.17
    9 64.4% French + 35.6% Turkish @ 2.17
    10 96.3% Macedonian + 3.7% Tuvinian @ 2.18
    11 71.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 28.6% Mordovian @ 2.19
    12 83.2% Italian_Tuscan + 16.8% Chuvash @ 2.21
    13 96.6% Macedonian + 3.4% Oroqen @ 2.21
    14 95.8% Macedonian + 4.2% Altaian @ 2.25
    15 96.2% Macedonian + 3.8% Mongolian @ 2.26
    16 79.8% Italian_Tuscan + 20.2% Tatar @ 2.26
    17 66.9% French + 33.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.27
    18 72.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.2% Russian @ 2.33
    19 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Eskimo @ 2.34
    20 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Daur @ 2.38

    Same Test, but puntDNAL K13 Global 4-Ancestors Oracle results/summary

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Macedonian @ 3.668006
    2 Bulgarian @ 4.121347
    3 Kosovar @ 5.902586
    4 Montenegrin @ 6.013378
    5 Romanian @ 6.184773
    6 Albanian @ 6.398431
    7 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.391240
    8 Italian_Tuscan @ 7.414318
    9 Serbian @ 8.135329
    10 Italian_Bergamo @ 10.058260
    11 Bosnian @ 12.117691
    12 Greek_Central @ 12.764841
    13 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.404091
    14 Croatian @ 13.987561
    15 Moldavian @ 14.423111
    16 Spaniard @ 14.841990
    17 French @ 15.382277
    18 Hungarian @ 16.890045
    19 German_South @ 17.240946
    20 Slovene @ 17.535757

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Ashkenazy_Jew +50% Slovene @ 2.765201

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Ashkenazy_Jew +25% Mordovian +25% Spaniard @ 1.632009

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
    1 Ashkenazy_Jew + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Bergamo + Mordovian @ 1.512448
    2 Albanian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + Mordovian @ 1.590791
    3 Ashkenazy_Jew + French_Basque + Russian + Turkish @ 1.591787
    4 French_Basque + Kosovar + Lebanese_Muslim + Mordovian @ 1.614336
    5 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Mordovian @ 1.614346
    6 Albanian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Mordovian @ 1.616329
    7 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Sicilian + Mordovian @ 1.624641
    8 French_Basque + Italian_Sicilian + Russian + Turkish @ 1.627666
    9 Ashkenazy_Jew + Ashkenazy_Jew + Mordovian + Spaniard @ 1.632009
    10 Greek_Central + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Sicilian + Mordovian @ 1.636431
    11 Italian_Abruzzo + Spaniard + Swedish + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.638495
    12 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Muslim + Mordovian @ 1.639518
    13 French_Basque + Kosovar + Lebanese_Druze + Mordovian @ 1.668056
    14 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Mordovian @ 1.679568
    15 Albanian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Mordovian @ 1.690439
    16 Italian_Sicilian + Italian_Tuscan + Italian_Tuscan + Mordovian @ 1.698234
    17 Albanian + Cypriot + Mordovian + Spaniard @ 1.709313
    18 French_Basque + Polish + Sephardic_Jew + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.712790
    19 Ashkenazy_Jew + Belarusian + French_Basque + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.712818
    20 Italian_Tuscan + Slovak + Spaniard + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.717273


    Gedrosia K12 Oracle results

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 8.74
    2 Sicilian 13.5
    3 Turks_Istanbul 21.54
    4 Turks_Aydin 25.22
    5 Turks_Balikesir 26.61
    6 Turks_Adana 29.43
    7 Kurds_N 30.34
    8 Turks_Kayseri 30.53
    9 Kurds_C 30.54
    10 Iraqi_Chaldeans 30.68
    11 Norwegian 30.96
    12 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 31.34
    13 Iraqi_Jew 31.74
    14 Kurds_F 32.18
    15 Kurds_E 33.13
    16 Iraqi_Mandaeans 33.52
    17 Armenian 34.63
    18 Assyrian 35.46
    19 Jordanian 35.87
    20 Syrian 36.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75% Sicilian + 25% Russian @ 3.04
    2 86% Sicilian + 14% BA_Sintashta @ 3.37
    3 86% Sicilian + 14% Corded_Ware_LN @ 3.37
    4 77.1% Sicilian + 22.9% Finnish @ 3.57
    5 78% Sicilian + 22% Estonian @ 3.73
    6 78.5% Sicilian + 21.5% Lithuanian @ 3.74
    7 70.8% Sicilian + 29.2% Norwegian @ 4.77
    8 84.9% Greek + 15.1% Russian @ 5.25
    9 86.4% Greek + 13.6% Finnish @ 5.39
    10 92.2% Greek + 7.8% BA_Sintashta @ 5.47
    11 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Corded_Ware_LN @ 5.47
    12 87.1% Greek + 12.9% Estonian @ 5.48
    13 87.5% Greek + 12.5% Lithuanian @ 5.54
    14 82.6% Greek + 17.4% Norwegian @ 5.94
    15 50.7% Norwegian + 49.3% Iraqi_Jew @ 6.84
    16 51.4% Turks_Adana + 48.6% Norwegian @ 7.62
    17 90.1% Greek + 9.9% Tajik_Pomiri @ 7.65
    18 92.9% Greek + 7.1% Punjabi_Sikh @ 7.66
    19 95.3% Greek + 4.7% Brahui @ 7.85
    20 94.9% Greek + 5.1% Balochi @ 7.87

    NOTE:

    Gedrosia K12 Admixture Proportions


    This calculator has been designed for individuals of predominately South Asian and West Asian ancestry for inferring gedrosian Balochi admixture. Since those populations were mostly used to source allele frequencies, individuals with majority ancestry from outside those regions will most likely find this calculator less accurate and informative.

    From URL:


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    Eurogenes K36 model results

    URL - Eurogenes K36 now at GEDmatch:
    I've just put together a new test for GEDmatch called the Eurogenes K36. Obviously, the K36 means that it features thirty six ancestral clus...


    The main purpose of the Eurogenes K36 is to help users unravel the ethnic origins of local areas of their genomes (aka. half-segments), hence the high number of ancestral categories, some of which are very specific. In other words, the test is mainly a chromosome painting utility.

    An important point to keep in mind is not to take the ancestry proportions too literally. If you're, say, English, and you get an Iberian score of 12% this doesn't actually mean you have recent ancestry from Spain or Portugal. What it means is that 12% of your alleles look typical of the reference samples classified as Iberian, and this figure might only indicate recent Iberian admixture if it's clearly higher than those of other English users.

    Another way to look at it is that the ancestry proportions are like map coordinates, and they'll place you with a very high degree of accuracy on a genetic map featuring other users.



    Results (I highlighted the top 5 below)

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 2.10 Pct
    Armenian 2.23 Pct
    Basque 0.12 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.35 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 8.94 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 7.85 Pct
    East_Med 9.62 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 6.42 Pct
    Fennoscandian 2.34 Pct
    French 0.37 Pct
    Iberian 12.19 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 18.47 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 3.12 Pct
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 2.50 Pct
    North_Caucasian 5.60 Pct
    North_Sea 5.39 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 0.23 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 2.29 Pct
    West_Med 2.86 Pct
    Last edited by Carlin; 01-27-2019, 10:30 PM.

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  • tchaiku
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    Originally posted by maco2envy View Post
    Some Greek ""Macedonian"" results for puntDNAL K13

    Kit Number: Z418934
    Name: GreeceMaced1

    1 Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.850202
    2 Armenian @ 4.943121
    3 Assyrian @ 6.664927
    4 Lebanese_Druze @ 10.400541
    5 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.442624
    6 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 10.446073
    7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.090278
    8 Lebanese_Christian @ 11.850492
    9 Abkhasian @ 11.862915
    10 Cypriot @ 11.916451
    11 Syrian @ 12.244077
    12 Turkish @ 12.708711
    13 Kurdish @ 12.729999
    14 Iranian @ 16.302404
    15 Ossetian @ 16.326971
    16 Dagestan_Azeri @ 17.420746
    17 Turkish_Aydin @ 17.674520
    18 Jordanian @ 17.760265
    19 Balkar @ 18.509897
    20 Samaritan_Jew @ 18.515850

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Armenian +50% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.706778


    This one looks like a Arab-Greek mix
    Kit Number: Z823091
    Name: GreeceMaced6

    1 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 6.843037
    2 Sephardic_Jew @ 7.377344
    3 Italian_Sicilian @ 7.787379
    4 Greek_Central @ 9.889065
    5 Turkish @ 10.138598
    6 Cypriot @ 10.759546
    7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.753522
    8 Turkish_Kayseri @ 12.478663
    9 Turkish_Aydin @ 14.189587
    10 Syrian @ 14.674924
    11 Lebanese_Christian @ 14.933181
    12 Lebanese_Druze @ 15.126143
    13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.093033
    14 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.252096
    15 Albanian @ 17.123238
    16 Jordanian @ 17.524622
    17 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 18.111841
    18 Kosovar @ 18.139843
    19 Balkar @ 18.679926
    20 Armenian @ 19.229366

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.470543


    I will post the rest of the kit numbers which includes other Balkan and surrounding people. The rest of the Greek Macedonian kits seem to be Macedonian, the others seem to be more Greek with some Arab admixture.
    Trabzon ... obviously a Pontian.

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  • tchaiku
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    From maco2envy's post (with kit-numbers), all other Cypriots had similar results:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Cypriot (Cyprus) 4.15
    2 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 7.85
    3 Jew (Syria) 8.67
    4 Jew (Turkish_Sephardim) 8.73
    5 Armenian (Lebanon) 9.12
    6 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 9.45
    7 Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) 9.57
    8 Greek (Azov) 10.02
    9 Greek (Greece) 10.03
    10 Druze (Mount_Carmel) 10.18
    11 Samaritan (Israel) 10.43
    12 Jew (Sephardim) 10.56
    13 Jew (Bulgaria) 10.62
    14 Jew (Turkey) 10.65
    15 Armenian (Armenia) 10.67
    16 Turk (Adana) 10.74
    17 Turk (Kayseri) 10.81
    18 Jew (Italian) 10.85
    19 Armenian (Vanatur_Hrazdan) 11.01
    20 Armenian (Erzrum) 11.06

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  • Amphipolis
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    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
    ...with each passing generation the greeks become greeker...the same miraculous way many of you become 'macedonian' circa 1985...
    No kidding this is exactly my case. It also shows how a random half DNA is inherited and the other half is lost. I totally lost her Italian DNA (even though it was an impressive 39%) and didn't even take 0,1%.

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  • Phoenix
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    Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
    My mother's results from the same company My-Heritage-DNA (a little incompatible to mine)
    Greek 55%, Italian 39%, Finnish 2,2%, Ashkenazi Jewish 2,1%, West Asia 1,4%
    ...with each passing generation the greeks become greeker...the same miraculous way many of you become 'macedonian' circa 1985...

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  • Amphipolis
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    Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
    I just got my results (I'm also expecting my mother's results within days)

    Greek 73,3%, Balkan 8,9%, North & West European 7,9%
    Ashkenazi Jewish 3,2%, West Asia 2,7%, East European 2,1%, Iberian 1,9%
    My mother's results from the same company My-Heritage-DNA (a little incompatible to mine)
    Greek 55%, Italian 39%, Finnish 2,2%, Ashkenazi Jewish 2,1%, West Asia 1,4%

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  • maco2envy
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    Some gedmatch kit numbers:

    A684751 Icaria, Aegean
    A318570 Kalymnos, Dodecanese
    M179262 Karpathos, Dodecanese
    A059192 Olympia and Kalymnos
    A570896 Andros, Aegean
    M846042 Volos and Eubea
    M838603 Cretan
    M523801 Cretan
    M706361 Cypriot
    Z645824 Cypriot
    M177805 Cypriot
    Z087841 Cypriot
    Z914573 Turkish
    Z875637 Turkish
    Z844636 Turkish
    Z182683 Turkish
    Z841465 Romanian
    Z402118 Romanian
    T090646 Bulgarian
    T624136 Albanian
    A906122 Hungarian
    Z431578 Armenian
    Z417388 Armenian
    Z419260 Georgian Laz

    A619640 Cosenza, Calabria
    A172427 Crotone, Calabria
    A405665 Reggio Calabria
    T476333 Mammola, Reggio Calabria
    A454745 Abruzzo + Calabria
    A482096 Messina, Sicily
    A538499 Messina, Sicily
    M765905 Messina, Sicily
    M164106 Catania, Sicily
    M041450 Catania, Sicily
    T303793 Trapani, Sicily
    M090932 Caltanisseta, Sicily
    A185048 Maltese
    A185048 Maltese
    M119302 Maltese
    M053465 Chios, Aegean Greece
    A947163 Chios, Aegean Greece
    M168143 Chios, Aegean Greece
    A140718 Ikaria, Aegean Greece
    A484290 Symi, Dodecanese Greece
    M871606 Karpathos, Dodecanese Greece
    A454108 Asia Minor (Syrmia, Istanul) Greek


    Kit Number: Z501418
    Name: *gagauz24

    Kit Number: Z887657
    Name: *gagauz25

    Kit Number: Z749500
    Name: *gagauz3

    Kit Number: Z374037
    Name: *gagauz5

    Kit Number: Z502959
    Name: *gagauz7

    Kit Number: Z028169
    Name: *gagauz8

    Kit Number: Z573968
    Name: *gagauz14

    Kit Number: Z148665
    Name: *gagauz20

    Kit Number: Z908023
    Name: gagauz23

    Kit Number: Z694632
    Name: *gagauz22

    Kit Number: Z375110
    Name: *gagauz18

    Kit Number: Z887011
    Name: *gagauz4



    Kit Number: Z778162
    Name: Bulgaria1

    Kit Number: Z076159
    Name: Bulgaria2

    Kit Number: Z485230
    Name: Bulgaria25

    Kit Number: Z115788
    Name: Bulgaria26

    Kit Number: Z912345
    Name: Bulgaria3

    Kit Number: Z054075
    Name: Bulgaria33

    Kit Number: T633483
    Name: Bulgaria37

    Kit Number: Z181725
    Name: Bulgaria39

    Kit Number: Z943722
    Name: Bulgaria4

    Kit Number: Z549316
    Name: Bulgaria5

    Kit Number: Z456732
    Name: Bulgaria6

    Kit Number: Z168171
    Name: Bulgaria7

    Kit Number: Z360879
    Name: Bulgaria8


    Kit Number: Z841465
    Name: Romania1

    Kit Number: Z402118
    Name: Romania10

    Kit Number: Z238520
    Name: Romani11

    Kit Number: Z185401
    Name: Romania12

    Kit Number: Z420838
    Name: Romania13

    Kit Number: Z765774
    Name: Romania14

    Kit Number: Z219999
    Name: Romania15

    Kit Number: Z668290
    Name: Romania16

    Kit Number: Z054532
    Name: Romania2

    Kit Number: Z183789
    Name: Romania3

    Kit Number: Z525540
    Name: Romania4

    Kit Number: Z259569
    Name: Romania5

    Kit Number: Z868739
    Name: Romania6

    Kit Number: Z667335
    Name: Romania7

    Kit Number: Z365571
    Name: Romania8

    Kit Number: Z191916
    Name: Romania9



    Kit Number: Z371034
    Name: Bosnian_1

    Kit Number: Z799298
    Name: Bosnian_10

    Kit Number: Z773379
    Name: Bosnian11

    Kit Number: Z470356
    Name: Bosnian12

    Kit Number: Z143257
    Name: Bosnian13

    Kit Number: Z192026
    Name: Bosnian14

    Kit Number: Z793771
    Name: Bosnian15

    Kit Number: Z597659
    Name: Bosnian16

    Kit Number: Z377079
    Name: Bosnian2

    Kit Number: Z801131
    Name: Bosnian3

    Kit Number: Z935091
    Name: Bosnian4

    Kit Number: Z651630
    Name: Bosnian5

    Kit Number: Z568631
    Name: Bosnian6

    Kit Number: Z843039
    Name: Bosnian7

    Kit Number: Z456530
    Name: Bosnian8



    Kit Number: Z059340
    Name: croatBHCB12_1m

    Kit Number: Z463425
    Name: croatBHCB16_1m

    Kit Number: Z728548
    Name: croatBHCHZ11_1m

    Kit Number: Z587597
    Name: croatBHCHZ13_1m

    Kit Number: Z239102
    Name: croatia_B-H1

    Kit Number: Z101383
    Name: croatia_B-H12

    Kit Number: Z603601
    Name: croatia_B-H19

    Kit Number: Z535935
    Name: Croatia_B-H1H

    Kit Number: Z390235
    Name: Croatia_B-H20H

    Kit Number: Z247356
    Name: croatia_B-H6

    Kit Number: Z636008
    Name: Croatia_B-H8H

    Kit Number: Z806587
    Name: Croatia_Cro133

    Kit Number: Z986343
    Name: Croatia_Cro140

    Kit Number: Z837925
    Name: Croatia_Cro141

    Kit Number: Z044088
    Name: Croatia_Cro142

    Kit Number: Z641907
    Name: Croatia_Cro198

    Kit Number: Z065794
    Name: Croatia_Cro26

    Kit Number: Z003993
    Name: Croatia_Cro302

    Kit Number: Z488470
    Name: Croatia_Cro305

    Kit Number: Z241479
    Name: Croatia_Cro312

    Kit Number: Z305488
    Name: Croatia_Cro344

    Kit Number: Z125516
    Name: Croatia_Cro43

    Kit Number: Z378719
    Name: Croatia_Cro432

    Kit Number: Z189219
    Name: Croatia_Cro53

    Kit Number: Z254186
    Name: Cyprus1

    Kit Number: Z645824
    Name: Cyprus10

    Kit Number: Z087841
    Name: Cyprus11

    Kit Number: Z182435
    Name: Cyprus12

    Kit Number: Z959093
    Name: Cyprus2

    Kit Number: Z127622
    Name: Cyprus3

    Kit Number: Z482939
    Name: Cyprus4

    Kit Number: Z582791
    Name: Cyprus5

    Kit Number: Z443020
    Name: Cyprus6

    Kit Number: Z853715
    Name: Cyprus7

    Kit Number: Z264894
    Name: Cyprus8

    Kit Number: Z241847
    Name: Cyprus9



    Kit Number: Z714983
    Name: GreeceCentr1

    Kit Number: Z131291
    Name: GreeceCentr10

    Kit Number: Z210352
    Name: GreeceCentr2

    Kit Number: Z401858
    Name: GreeceCentr3

    Kit Number: Z602601
    Name: GreeceCentr4

    Kit Number: Z476541
    Name: GreeceCentr5

    Kit Number: Z368850
    Name: GreeceCentr6

    Kit Number: Z880378
    Name: GreeceCentr7

    Kit Number: Z825068
    Name: GreeceCentr8

    Kit Number: Z880891
    Name: GreeceCentr9

    Kit Number: Z829678
    Name: GreeceThessaly1

    Kit Number: Z407001
    Name: GreeceThessaly10

    Kit Number: Z313992
    Name: GreeceThessaly2

    Kit Number: Z741721
    Name: GreeceThessaly4

    Kit Number: Z580405
    Name: GreeceThessaly5

    Kit Number: Z812683
    Name: GreeceThessaly6

    Kit Number: Z260052
    Name: GreeceThessaly7

    Kit Number: Z197487
    Name: GreeceThessaly9

    Kit Number: Z090265
    Name: GreeceThessaly8

    Kit Number: Z418934
    Name: GreeceMaced1

    Kit Number: Z274631
    Name: GreeceMaced2

    Kit Number: Z721721
    Name: GreeceMaced3

    Kit Number: Z244127
    Name: GreeceMaced4

    Kit Number: Z823091
    Name: GreeceMaced6

    Kit Number: Z455687
    Name: GreeceMaced7

    Kit Number: Z608982
    Name: GreeceMaced8

    Kit Number: Z351478
    Name: GreecePelop1

    Kit Number: Z659969
    Name: GreecePelop10

    Kit Number: Z106701
    Name: GreecePelop3

    Kit Number: Z280331
    Name: GreecePelop4

    Kit Number: Z368114
    Name: GreecePelop5

    Kit Number: Z482928
    Name: GreecePelop6

    Kit Number: Z691528
    Name: GreecePelop7

    Kit Number: Z686475
    Name: GreecePelop8

    Kit Number: Z376248
    Name: GreeceThessaly3




    Kit Number: Z807408
    Name: Macedonian10

    Kit Number: Z019954
    Name: Macedonian12

    Kit Number: Z615904
    Name: Macedonian14

    Kit Number: Z643708
    Name: Macedonian17b-d

    Kit Number: Z343313
    Name: Macedonian19

    Kit Number: Z037927
    Name: Macedonian2

    Kit Number: Z750200
    Name: Macedonian20

    Kit Number: Z659048
    Name: Macedonian21

    Kit Number: Z749903
    Name: Macedonian22

    Kit Number: Z435480
    Name: Macedonian3

    Kit Number: Z980726
    Name: Macedonian6

    Kit Number: Z680911
    Name: Macedonian7

    Kit Number: Z395622
    Name: Macedonian8

    Kit Number: Z314430
    Name: Macedonian9

    Note that you don't need to have done a DNA test to view information about these samples. Also, I think these samples are from actual publications, so I assume most of them can trace their ancestry back a few generations (atleast) from that specified region. Enjoy.

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  • maco2envy
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    Some Greek ""Macedonian"" results for puntDNAL K13

    Kit Number: Z418934
    Name: GreeceMaced1

    1 Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.850202
    2 Armenian @ 4.943121
    3 Assyrian @ 6.664927
    4 Lebanese_Druze @ 10.400541
    5 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.442624
    6 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 10.446073
    7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.090278
    8 Lebanese_Christian @ 11.850492
    9 Abkhasian @ 11.862915
    10 Cypriot @ 11.916451
    11 Syrian @ 12.244077
    12 Turkish @ 12.708711
    13 Kurdish @ 12.729999
    14 Iranian @ 16.302404
    15 Ossetian @ 16.326971
    16 Dagestan_Azeri @ 17.420746
    17 Turkish_Aydin @ 17.674520
    18 Jordanian @ 17.760265
    19 Balkar @ 18.509897
    20 Samaritan_Jew @ 18.515850

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Armenian +50% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.706778


    This one looks like a Arab-Greek mix
    Kit Number: Z823091
    Name: GreeceMaced6

    1 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 6.843037
    2 Sephardic_Jew @ 7.377344
    3 Italian_Sicilian @ 7.787379
    4 Greek_Central @ 9.889065
    5 Turkish @ 10.138598
    6 Cypriot @ 10.759546
    7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.753522
    8 Turkish_Kayseri @ 12.478663
    9 Turkish_Aydin @ 14.189587
    10 Syrian @ 14.674924
    11 Lebanese_Christian @ 14.933181
    12 Lebanese_Druze @ 15.126143
    13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.093033
    14 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.252096
    15 Albanian @ 17.123238
    16 Jordanian @ 17.524622
    17 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 18.111841
    18 Kosovar @ 18.139843
    19 Balkar @ 18.679926
    20 Armenian @ 19.229366

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.470543


    I will post the rest of the kit numbers which includes other Balkan and surrounding people. The rest of the Greek Macedonian kits seem to be Macedonian, the others seem to be more Greek with some Arab admixture.

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  • maco2envy
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    My mothers puntDNAL K13 results are very similar to yours, vicsinad:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Macedonian @ 4.101864
    2 Bulgarian @ 4.430986
    3 Kosovar @ 4.647744
    4 Albanian @ 5.052258
    5 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.037992
    6 Italian_Tuscan @ 6.333726
    7 Romanian @ 6.884343
    8 Montenegrin @ 6.890855
    9 Serbian @ 9.283626
    10 Italian_Bergamo @ 9.973883
    11 Greek_Central @ 11.368895
    12 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.950230
    13 Bosnian @ 13.319817
    14 Spaniard @ 15.222556
    15 Croatian @ 15.232032
    16 Moldavian @ 15.659679
    17 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 16.348623
    18 French @ 16.469654
    19 Italian_Sicilian @ 17.643173
    20 Hungarian @ 18.167028

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Italian_Sicilian +50% Slovene @ 2.327702


    Although my fathers results are very different for this one, even though (again) they are from neighboring villages. Also, I assume most Macedonian samples are from Skopje, because that's the case with the Y-DNA studies.

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  • vicsinad
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    I did this a while ago, and unfortunately I didn't record which admixture test it was. However, I know I saved the only ones that had Macedonian as an option. (I played around with all of them.)

    ME:
    1 Macedonian @ 3.052047
    2 Bulgarian @ 3.237535
    3 Kosovar @ 5.417058
    4 Romanian @ 5.615543
    5 Montenegrin @ 5.630441
    6 Albanian @ 6.105016
    7 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.974651
    8 Italian_Tuscan @ 7.203229
    9 Serbian @ 7.928205
    10 Italian_Bergamo @ 9.996491
    11 Bosnian @ 11.996261
    12 Greek_Central @ 12.536595
    13 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.242043
    14 Croatian @ 13.921420
    15 Moldavian @ 14.301837
    16 Spaniard @ 14.976334
    17 French @ 15.423677
    18 Hungarian @ 16.828901
    19 German_South @ 17.173138
    20 Slovene @ 17.539715

    My Wife:

    1 Macedonian @ 3.578402
    2 Bulgarian @ 4.045729
    3 Montenegrin @ 4.048208
    4 Romanian @ 4.350714
    5 Serbian @ 6.374573
    6 Kosovar @ 7.742767
    7 Albanian @ 8.599920
    8 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.419997
    9 Italian_Tuscan @ 9.651205
    10 Bosnian @ 9.868814
    11 Italian_Bergamo @ 11.723947
    12 Croatian @ 12.055648
    13 Moldavian @ 12.130770
    14 Greek_Central @ 14.510853
    15 French @ 14.563489
    16 Hungarian @ 14.899786
    17 Slovene @ 15.426784
    18 Italian_Abruzzo @ 15.477324
    19 Spaniard @ 15.694904
    20 German_South @ 15.915500

    One of the observations that I noted from above, which seemed to make sense to me, is that both of my wife's parents are from the Tetovo region, while only one of mine is from Tetovo region and the other from Prespa. Serbian and Montenegrin appear higher on my wife's list than on mine, relatively. Based on geographical proximity, this seems to make sense. This tells me that this test could be a fairly reliable indicator. However, Kosovar is higher on my list, which doesn't seem to fit as well with the geographical proximity explanation. Interestingly, though, perhaps because my parents are from two relatively distant regions in Macedonia and her parents are from just 3 villages away from each other, maybe that's why my Macedonian is 3.05 while hers is 3.5 -- that mix of different region could give a better representative picture of Macedonians. It makes me wonder what you would get if you had someone from Tetovo region and Kostur region; or for that matter, Tetovo region and Vodensko or Solunsko (or any other Macedonian extremes, or even central Macedonia (Veles to Shtip area).
    Last edited by vicsinad; 01-21-2019, 08:57 AM.

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  • maco2envy
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    My mother's results are very similar to yours Carlin, even though my mother and father are from nearby villages that regularly intermix. Something tells me these Gedmatch methods are fairly variant (not a good thing) since the ancestryDNA results are almost the same for both of them.

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  • Carlin
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    maco2envy, we have (very) similar results.

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  • maco2envy
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    My Dad's Eurogenes K13 results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    #
    Population
    Percent
    1
    East_Med
    24.10
    2
    Baltic
    21.53
    3
    North_Atlantic
    20.56
    4
    West_Med
    17.63
    5
    West_Asian
    10.95
    6
    Red_Sea
    2.96
    7
    Amerindian
    1.01


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bulgarian @ 5.138119
    2 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.614001
    3 Romanian @ 7.925223
    4 Serbian @ 12.493502
    5 Central_Greek @ 14.316034
    6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 14.445589
    7 Tuscan @ 14.914110
    8 East_Sicilian @ 15.586819
    9 West_Sicilian @ 15.773703
    10 Ashkenazi @ 16.795723
    11 North_Italian @ 17.900188
    12 Moldavian @ 18.974867
    13 South_Italian @ 19.176466
    14 Hungarian @ 21.854023
    15 Croatian @ 22.221544
    16 Italian_Jewish @ 24.796848
    17 Algerian_Jewish @ 24.839354
    18 Sephardic_Jewish @ 25.013994
    19 Austrian @ 25.019979
    20 Portuguese @ 25.770416

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +50% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.880129


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.993367


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian @ 1.709685
    2 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 1.717500
    3 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Romanian @ 1.761128
    4 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish @ 1.850986
    5 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 1.894605
    6 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Russian_Smolensk @ 1.907072
    7 Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian + South_Italian @ 1.909957
    8 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 1.915853
    9 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.928756
    10 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 1.967754
    11 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Russian @ 1.979057
    12 Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + South_Italian @ 1.983720
    13 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.993367
    14 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian @ 1.996388
    15 Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian @ 2.045824
    16 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.053999
    17 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Polish @ 2.075090
    18 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + South_Italian + South_Polish @ 2.076056
    19 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 2.076612
    20 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southwest_Russian @ 2.095118
    Last edited by maco2envy; 01-20-2019, 10:15 PM.

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  • Carlin
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    URL:


    Pontian's result using the Eurogenes K13 admixture model.





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