Macedonian passport

[Jankovska]

I have no interest in supporting anyone, unlike you, gauging by the response. Simple go and talk to the average citizen and they will tell you how they feel of today party or previous party..When was the last time you went through Debar, Gostivar and Tetovo?....

And how are you suppose to get facts from that country, since they are written up to suit political sides. Obviously you live under a rock not to know that....You pick up one paper that is totally to one side and the other totally opposite. Dont use the SDS crap on me, to deflect the shorfalls of the current sell outs in goverment....

Warrior I am so with you on this. What is the most upseting is when people on forums who have lost all proper touch with the common citizen of the Republic of Macedonia (like Prolet here) quote Grujo and Co on how much they will spend to improve the lifes of the gragani, blah blah, drn drn vrzi magareto pod trn. They have done NOTHING for the people. They have raised taxes, MADE UP new taxes, they have allowed the rich to get richer. They have replaced every SDSM criminal with a VMRO criminal. They 'invested' in the healthcare but every day people struggle to find medication in the apteki (the one that VMRO provided) and strugle to be treated by the doctors. Quotes from newspapers mean fuck all to me. They are all owned by this parties, these evils that are torturing my country and worse have support in doing that. The common citizen will not say anything like that. they will ask you how are they meant to pay taxes from chimeny tax to wood tax to grave tax and survive when all in all they have 100 evra plata. I have always stood for the people and the country, not the lunatic Crvenkovski or this two faced little prick Grujo- our people's lifes are no better. The poor Macedonian person is still suffering while Grujo and Co are buying villas in the Middle East.
Warrior you are right, the Diaspora needs to get in touch with the people not the gov.

[Prolet]

What a disgraceful comment Jankovska, its easy to be on your side all you have to do is piss on the Government in order to get your opinion, oh we know democracy is not popular with you lot thats for sure.

First of all Jankovska, while all the other countries are bankrupting we are still holding firm, while everyone else was firing workers and even lowering wages the Stavreski and Gruevski economy sector held on, while everyone else around us lifted their taxes to over 20% we lowered ours from 18% to 5% the only difference is now that everyone has to pay where as before you didnt have to especially if we were mates with SDSM Komunjars.

In Greece the taxes went up from 21% to 23% while you made Grujo worse then the bloody devil, unbelievable i think whatever happens you will still spit on him.

[Jankovska]

What a disgraceful comment Jankovska, its easy to be on your side all you have to do is piss on the Government in order to get your opinion, oh we know democracy is not popular with you lot thats for sure.

First of all Jankovska, while all the other countries are bankrupting we are still holding firm, while everyone else was firing workers and even lowering wages the Stavreski and Gruevski economy sector held on, while everyone else around us lifted their taxes to over 20% we lowered ours from 18% to 5% the only difference is now that everyone has to pay where as before you didnt have to especially if we were mates with SDSM Komunjars.

In Greece the taxes went up from 21% to 23% while you made Grujo worse then the bloody devil, unbelievable i think whatever happens you will still spit on him.

Omg stop spreading lies, will you ever. Why we didn't fire many people is because most don't have jobs to be fired from, get it? Or is that too difficult for you to understand? He lowered taxes on one thing but made up new or upped taxes on different things so when you think about it the people are worse off. He is also saying and so are you that there is medication za bolnite but bolnite are saying there isn't. He is saying he invested this much in zdrastvo, my arse, the hospitals are still falling apart. Ke go dokrajci ovaj Grujo makedonskiot narod i ja treba tebe da sedim i da te slusam kako mi drobis drobenica so nevistini. You are a typical prodsadena dusa za nekoja para by the gov, loving to read their papers and spread their propaganda. Well excuse me for not giving a flying fuck.

[Prolet]

Jankovska, In order to be a prodadena dusa you have to sell out, i havnt sold out to anybody im simply more greatful then you are, im talking about the Government sector jobs not the private sector. Why are you so stubborn? All the countries are in a deep economic crisis and here you are criticizing away like we are some rich country. Keep this in mind Jankovska, the Government is only talking about what it actually does you know like keeping their promises, they dont say that if it isnt for them the country would collapse like the Komunjars or their other Doom and Gloom stories. Gluposti

[Jankovska]

Jankovska, In order to be a prodadena dusa you have to sell out, i havnt sold out to anybody im simply more greatful then you are, im talking about the Government sector jobs not the private sector. Why are you so stubborn? All the countries are in a deep economic crisis and here you are criticizing away like we are some rich country. Keep this in mind Jankovska, the Government is only talking about what it actually does you know like keeping their promises, they dont say that if it isnt for them the country would collapse like the Komunjars or their other Doom and Gloom stories. Gluposti

What promises have they kept? And the gov sector jobs were the only jobs left in the country, what is wrong with you? The vital jobs and the vrski jobs, that's it. You have sold your soul to Grujo and Co.
I am not critisizing, I am pointing out that you are spreading lies. It's different if you didn't know. You sit here and lie to these people with some fake numbers produced by the gov that pays you and links to media that is owned by the gov and expect us all to love the almighty Grujo. I really want to know when was the last time you spoke to a normal graganin and left your wallet in australia and tried to work our living in Macedonia. I wonder when was the last time you needed medication that is no where to be seen and visited the villages and small towns in Macedonia? Probably never and if you did you were driven in one of Grujo's cars. I don't need to listen to Grujo, I can listen to your crap and know exactly what he is thinking. we are not a rich country I agree, than why the fuck are we spending million on spomenici and some rip off zgradi? Why spend like a rich person if you are not rich? Oh wait but you have excuse for that too.
Why not take that money and the rest the politicans of VMRO pocket and actually build a fabrika, why don't they build a centre for disabled chidlren or so on. Why don't they keep their fucking promises and get rid off the corrup police/ army they have employed and why don't they let the stecajci strike like in every democratic country instead of send the police on them. You are talking about democracy to me, you won't know democracy if the D hit you on the head. Spare me the stories and lies that are Grujo's propaganda. Next time I go to Macedonia I will record the every day people I meet and talk to and take time of my life to ask them how they are. The chidlren and families that lost their homes in 2001 and 10 years later are still in centri with no water, the macedonians whose houses are burned and robbed in Arachinovo, Lipkovo etc. You are telling me about promises? What promises did he keep? He can take his fake promises and shove them up his arse because to me or the poor Macedonian person his promises mean NOTHING. so stop telling me how I should be positive, I don't get paid to be like you so I won't be.

[Volk]

I have no interest in supporting anyone, unlike you, gauging by the response. Simple go and talk to the average citizen and they will tell you how they feel of today party or previous party..When was the last time you went through Debar, Gostivar and Tetovo?....

And how are you suppose to get facts from that country, since they are written up to suit political sides. Obviously you live under a rock not to know that....You pick up one paper that is totally to one side and the other totally opposite. Dont use the SDS crap on me, to deflect the shorfalls of the current sell outs in goverment....

I did not have an interest in supporting anyone either, until there was an alternative that has improved the economy, stopped raping the country, is celebrating our history and culture, has shown action in defending the state, has shown some backbone in defending the name.

are they above criticism? No one is.

If you would actually familiarize yourself with Macedonian politics you would know what the alternative is- catastrophe.

And actually I read all Macedonian news, including most of the self loathing spread by utrinski and a1.

I am also well aware of the opinions of ordinary people, most do not like any party, its the Macedonian way. However VMRO under Gruevski is the most popular party ever since independence for a reason.

Pop your head out of a rock, at the moment there is not even an alternative, they represent foreign interests and not that of the Macedonian State of people

[Jankovska]

I did not have an interest in supporting anyone either, until there was an alternative that has improved the economy, stopped raping the country, is celebrating our history and culture, has shown action in defending the state, has shown some backbone in defending the name.

are they above criticism? No one is.

If you would actually familiarize yourself with Macedonian politics you would know what the alternative is- catastrophe.

And actually I read all Macedonian news, including most of the self loathing spread by utrinski and a1.

I am also well aware of the opinions of ordinary people, most do not like any party, its the Macedonian way. However VMRO under Gruevski is the most popular party ever since independence for a reason.

Pop your head out of a rock, at the moment there is not even an alternative, they represent foreign interests and not that of the Macedonian State of people

Just because someone is the smaller evil doesn't mean they are good.

[Prolet]

Jankovska, These figures come from the world bank,imf,mmf etc We are domakini why cant you get that? We have the third lowest fall in the recession while everybody else owes alot more. Gruevski actually payed back debt, this is why we owe the least amount of foreign debt in from the former YU countries. I'll give you a comparisson, Croatia owes 45 billion Euros, Slovenija owes 30 billion euros while we owe a bit over 2 billion.

If you have a budget set out for over 4 years and the money is there, you can buy whatever you like and yes i'd rather have spomenici then have that SDS scum putting the money into their pockets and telling the people that we are poor and starving. Who is the lesser evil? I dont see people like Stavreski and Gruevski coming out and telling the people how they are our savious and how Macedonia wouldnt exist if it wasnt for them, thats the arrogance we all got from SDSM.

[Prolet]

Jankovska, It seems like things are so terrible like you say, here is something that states otherwise

Macedonian salaries increase by 4.4%
Saturday, 29 May 2010

Macedonia's average net salary was 20,338 denars ($408) in March, up by a nominal 4.4% from a year earlier, the Macedonian Statistics Office said. In February, the average net salary in the country was 20,240 denars.

Macedonia is the only country in Europe to record an increase in salaries higher than 1.5% when compared to the year before. Bosnia, Turkey, Serbia and Norway were the other to record an increase in pay. Ironically, all are non EU members.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/14988/1/

[Prolet]

Jankovska, Its nice to be complemented once in a while, its not all doom and gloom like you say it is.

Top Austrian Cop: Macedonian Police Best in World
Saturday, 29 May 2010

Herbert Anderlm, the chief of the Austrian Police today at a press conference stated the Macedonian Police was the best in the world.

After meeting with his counterpart in Macedonia, Ljupco Todorovski, both spoke of challenges for Macedonia and Austrian police in relation to drug and human smuggling.

"It is a great pleasure for the Austrian police to collaborate with the Macedonian police on many levels. Macedonia is at the moment a buffer between the East and West and is the entry point towards the EU. The Macedonian police being the best in the world has done a terrific job in every sphere, concluded Anderlm.

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/14989/1/