Deconstruction of the term Bulgar/B'lgar/Bugar/Voulgar!

[TrueMacedonian]

"Bulgarians" in Otto's German Made 'greece'? Check it out;


page 162

[Risto the Great]

When bulgarian peasant used to say "we are Bulgars", he meant "we are Christians", i.e. Orthodox. The Russian Tsar was a "Bulgarian Tsar" for him not by nationality, but by Orthodox Christianity.

But when a Greek calls himself a Roman for 1500 years, he is Greek.
To use modern concepts of nationalism to define a race of people who descend from a biblical/antique/ancient race is ludicrous.

[Bratot]

За Македонците терминот Бугар не означавал етническа припадност, а славянска.
За македонците и руския царь беше бугарски, не по националност a по славянство, “Periodichesko spisanie (Sofia), LXV (1904)“ стр.818.

The propaganda consisted of introducing among the common Slavic people the world “Bolgar”, as a synonym for “Slavonic Christian”; As this propaganda was so strong, really the word “Bolgar” became a synonym for “Christian that speak Slavonic” in the 19 Cent., but not and nationality. When bulgarian peasant used to say "we are Bulgars", he meant "we are Christians", i.e. Orthodox. The Russian Tsar was a "Bulgarian Tsar" for him not by nationality, but by Orthodox Christianity.
(Source: A. Teodorov-Balan, Edna makedonska teorija - Periodichesko spisanie (Sofia), LXV (1904), p.818).

[Bratot]

За Македонците терминот Бугар не означавал етническа припадност, а славянска.
За македонците и руския царь беше бугарски, не по националност a по славянство, “Periodichesko spisanie (Sofia), LXV (1904)“ стр.818.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Well, Macedonians are known to have made such statements (bulgars are tatars) as early as the mid-19th century when making distinction between themselves and the Bulgarians, and the Bulgarians do claim central Asian Khans as their ancestors, putting up statues of Asparuh and such in their Russian creation....so who are we to argue.

[Bratot]

[Bratot]

[TrueMacedonian]

All peasants were Macedonians; shepherds were Vlachs; merchants and bureaucrats were Greeks; and the high administrators were Muslims. (Vermeulen 1978:10).

Minorities and mother country imagery By Gerald L. Gold, Memorial University of Newfoundland. Institute of Social and Economic Research page 60.

[TrueMacedonian]

The Macedonian Conflict by Loring Danforth page 59

[TrueMacedonian]

Some more food for thought;

http://books.google.com/books?id=-XU9AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA51&dq=merchants+greeks+farmers+bulgarians&lr=#v=onepage&q=merchants%20greeks%20farmers%20bulgarians&f=false

Leon Dominian follows the social labor status of Macedonia to the "T"!!!

[TrueMacedonian]

All of you guys are Gems. i am so proud of all of yous and proud to be Macedonian. Thank god yous are one of us.

Thanks SoM, and Bill I agree everyone contributed greatly to this topic. If you read from page 1 and on you will see things many many people did not know before. Plenty of people always ask me "Why did Macedonians sometimes refer to themselves as Bulgars?" and I always send them a link to this topic. This is one of the most valuable topics on this forum. Daskale started it and let's continue to build on it

[Bill77]

Good stuff as usual TM, thanks for those texts. There is now a mass of information to disprove Greek lies against the Macedonian population thanks to people like yourself.

All of you guys are Gems. i am so proud of all of yous and proud to be Macedonian. Thank god yous are one of us.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Good stuff as usual TM, thanks for those texts. There is now a mass of information to disprove Greek lies against the Macedonian population thanks to people like yourself.

[TrueMacedonian]

Contemporary journalists idea of what's happening in Macedonia from 1918 (as already posted on the "Who are the Slavs" topic)


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And this neatly falls into place with what Victor Roudometof said;

[TrueMacedonian]

In Krusevo after 1870, reports Ballas, mixed marriages of Bulgarian (villager)father and Greek (urbanite)mother produced (male) offspring who "assert most fanatically of themselves that they are truly Bulgarian- Kurios Voulgaroi

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The Past In Question by Keith Brown page 88.