Concerning the non-Greek origin and history of Asia Minor

[Carlin]

URL:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=BpnJK47BE-YC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Life+and+Society+in+Byzantine+Cappadocia&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Life%20and%20Society%20in%20Byzantine%20Cappadocia&f=false

[Carlin]

[Carlin]

Link:

http://www.freeinquiry.gr/pro.php?id=2889

In this article, focusing on the situation prevailing in the islands of the Aegean in the Middle Ages, listed unknown and rare testimonies of numerous travelers, which in the timespan of hundreds of years describe many islands as uninhabited, completely deserted.

Large scourges were wars, frequent deadly epidemics and piracy, due to which thousands of residents of the islands dragged as slaves in the bazaars of the East. Population gaps replenished from time to time various groups of people from other places, such as North Africa, the East and in many cases, as we shall see, poor Albanians.

The article is based on excerpts translated from the works of the English historian and archaeologist Frederick William Hasluck (1878-1920): «Depopulation in the Aegean Islands and the Turkish Conquest» (The Annual of the British School at Athens, Vol. 17, 1910 / 1911, pp. 151-181) and «Albanian Settlements in the Aegean islands» (The Annual of the British School at Athens, Vol. 15, 1908/1909, pp. 223-228).


The table below (which I translated from Greek using Google Translate) is a summary of research on desolation and the restocking of the islands in the period before the Cretan War (and, apparently this is historical data only for a period from roughly 14th century to 17th century. What happened in antiquity? What happened in the all the centuries preceding the 14th c.?).



Conclusion from the article:

"… in three similar periods of unrest in the Aegean region there are significant population movements: During the Cretan War (1645-1669), during the Orloff revolt (1770-1774) and the period of '21 (1821-1830).

Yet, until now we thought that the population of the islands has never changed since ancient times and that even the dialects are directly related to ancient dialects.

But historical data can’t be denied that although the islanders boast that they are purebred descendants of the ancient Greeks (though in ancient times the intermarriage was not something unknown), the island populations have undergone significant racial changes even a few centuries ago."

[Carlin]

The native languages of Asia Minor survived long into the Christian era.

[Carlin]

I wasn't sure where to add this one, but I'm putting it here.

Catalans, Armenians, Cumans, Slavs on Chios.

[Carlin]

Concerning the non-Greek origin and history of Asia Minor: Vlachs in Asia Minor.

Source -
Aperçus of the History of Balkan Romanity, by Nicolae-Serban Tanasoca.

Link [Page 119] -

http://www.academia.edu/10219060/Aper%C3%A7us_of_the_History_of_Balkan_Romanity

Quote:
- "A source dating back to the end of the Thirteenth Century speaks of bloodshed during a conflict between the Vlachs in the Boleron Theme and imperial revenue agents (Maximos Planudes, in, N.-S. Tanasoca, 1974). According to Georgios Pachymeris, large numbers of well-off Thracian Vlachs in the Fourteenth Century who owned fine houses and many sheep were dispossessed by the Emperor and forcibly moved to Asia Minor in a massive colonization effort motivated by fear of an impending Tartar invasion and anticipation that the Romanians would side with the invaders."

[Carlin]

Concerning the non-Greek origin and history of Asia Minor: Slavs in Asia Minor.

Source -
Byzantium in the Seventh Century: The Transformation of a Culture
By J. F. Haldon.

Link to the specific page [Page 71] -

https://books.google.ca/books?id=pSHmT1G_5T0C&pg=PA71&lpg=PA71&dq=haldon+scythians+macedonia&source=bl&ots=o8a4R3tNXZ&sig=RzoBFYO2LRlGYoxC4Ilx2eVvjdI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjl_orJk8PLAhWsnIMKHVmVAVUQ6AEIKjAD#v=onepage&q=haldon%20scythians%20macedonia&f=false

Quote:
- "Most significant for the empire was the transfer of large numbers of Slavs to Asia Minor, in particular to Bithynia and Cappadocia, where they seem to have been eventually drafted into the provincial armies, as a number of lead seals of the officials who dealt with them demonstrate."

[Carlin]

Concerning the non-Greek origin and history of Asia Minor: Cumans in Asia Minor.

Source -
The Late Byzantine Army: Arms and Society, 1204-1453, by Mark C. Bartusis.

Link to the specific page -

https://books.google.ca/books?id=Q3A_CwAAQBAJ&pg=PT48&dq=Vatatzes+Cumans&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Vatatzes%20Cumans&f=false

Summary:
- Around 1239 a large group of Cumans (a Turkic people of the steppes), fleeing before the Mongols, crossed the Danube and invaded Thrace.
- John Vatatzes succeeded in settling most of them in Anatolia throughout the Meander valley and the region east of Philadelphia.
- The Cumans were enrolled in the army and soon afterward received baptism.
- The Cuman reserve light cavalry were settled in Asia Minor.
- 2,000 Cuman light cavalry fought at the battle of Pelagonia in 1259.
- The majority of A. Strategopoulos' 800 troops which retook Constantinople in 1261 were Cuman.
- Michael VIII Palaiologos' European campaigns of 1263-64, 1270-72, and 1275 included large Cuman contingents.
- The Cumans settled by Vatatzes are also encountered in 1292 during Andronikos II Palaiologos's unsuccessful campaign against Epirus. The army was an undisciplined mix of TURKS and CUMANS who terminated the campaign by an unauthorized retreat.

[momce]

Rumistan and its structures s just there to rob people blind.

[George S.]

well said mkd eapon welcome to our forum.If i can ask mkd where are you from?

[MKDweapon]

yes well said George!!

[momce]

Well said George.

[George S.]

deep down they know what their own country is up to.They must know they are transplanted fakes.Why because there is the endopi,the original indigenous people..So no matter how much they try to be call panmachs,greek macedonians ,they are no such thing
there never was.JUst because someone is geographically there doesn't make them macedonian.The fact one speaks greek will not qualify them to be macedonians as the macedonians had their own language which was unintelligible to the greeks.The greeks deny that the macedonians had their own language so a key factor is if they spoke greek they must have been greek.This pure & utter bs.Yes the royal house only spoke greek only for trade & commerce.BUT back home in macedonia they all spoke macedonian not greek.The NORMAL macedonian had NO NEED to speak greek or anyother language except MACEDONIAN.TO the greeks & malaka website i challenge you to prove the greekness of macedonia.Ancient history shows the macedonians were not a kindred to the greeks NOT related to the greeks they were a seperate people.
Also a challenge to the malaka nutcases prove to us that greeece occupied aegean macedonia prior to 1913.Fact is they never did the greek population in the aegean area was 10 % they we a minority where as the macedonians were a majority.Also the greeks
had an embassy in solun prior to 1913.So proof that the macedonians existed is on a huge number of threads posted byour ever famous TM greek myth buster extraordinaire.
Greeks stop lying about macedonian non existence & substituting your "greekness".

[momce]

As usual with the greasers they take their own element and universalise it for an an entire area and make people believe they originated the place. Well most people in Asia Minor didnt think it was all greaseball land. Considering what the true character of grease demographic settlement was an is in all these areas they are ripe for the big squeeze.

[Onur]

Onur I was talking to one pontian & they said virtually all the place names are greek,Gallipoli.Big city ,Instanbul??etcThey reckon it's all greek,there are not much turkish place names in turkey they are all greek virtually? .

Not all but few. Both Gallipoli and Istanbul city has been created during eastern Roman era and obviously these places have either Latin or Greek names.

But this is not the case for many cities in Anatolia. Before the excavations and the decipherment of Hittite language, most of the scholars was thinking like pretty much whole Anatolian cities had Greek names but in fact, we learned that so many cities was populated during Hittitian, Lydian, Hattian era, predating Greeks and the city names was same as today`s. These city names existed on Hittite tablets from 1500-1700 BC. I remember few of those cities like Adana, Angora (Ankara), Antioch (Antakya). So, Romans copied the names from Hittites with a slight letter change and then Turks did the same.

Today, we have 11.000 year old archeological history in Anatolia. The oldest written records are from Hittite language around 1800 BC, predating Greeks by many centuries. Eastern Romans were just the previous rulers here before Turks, thats it. Greeks didn't create Anatolia from scratch because this is the oldest place on earth in terms of archeological history.