Philiki Eteria founders most likely Vlachs & Slav

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    • Jan 2009
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    #61
    Thanks guys. I'll always do my best to spread the word. Paul I asked you somewhere else but I'll ask again. I'm looking for Vasil Bogov's book. Where can I purchase it?

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    • Daskalot
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      • Sep 2008
      • 4345

      #62
      TM, keep hunting the Truth!
      Macedonian Truth Organisation

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      • Pelister
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        • Sep 2008
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        #63
        I was reading somewhere recently that the "secret code words" of this group to identify one another, were Albanian words.

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        • TrueMacedonian
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          • Jan 2009
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          #64
          I would love to know what these Albanian words are. I am not at all shocked by this either.

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          • TrueMacedonian
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            • Jan 2009
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            #65
            Something interesting I found about the Philiki Etaeria.




            So a distinction between Orthodox and "greek" was blurred......This answers alot of our questions right here.

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            • Pelister
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              • Sep 2008
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              #66
              Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
              I would love to know what these Albanian words are. I am not at all shocked by this either.
              Will dig it up. I've got the book at home.

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              • Pelister
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                • Sep 2008
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                #67
                When this society (Philike Hetairia) was founded, orthodoxy and Greek nationality were so generally confounded, that the traders of Odessa who framed its organization called the popular class of initiated brethren by the barbarous appellation of Vlamides, from the Albanian word vlameria, signifying brotherhood.
                p.122, G. Finlay, History of the Greek Revolution, Volume 1.

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                • TrueMacedonian
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                  • Jan 2009
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pelister View Post
                  p.122, G. Finlay, History of the Greek Revolution, Volume 1.

                  Pelister this is awesome. This pretty much sums up what is truth. That ethnically there was no "greeks" in the Philiki Eteria. Because obviously no such ethnicity exists. This is from Finlays book that Pelister quoted from for all modern "greeks" to read.




                  Thanks Pelister. I believe that we can officially say case closed on this thread now.

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                  • Pelister
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2742

                    #69
                    There may be one more thing.

                    I read somewhere that there were secret handshakes, and secret "pass words" used by its members, and that these words were also in origin Albanian words.

                    It would only corroborate what we already know.

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                    • TrueMacedonian
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                      • Jan 2009
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                      #70
                      Pelister I can't wait to read about it.

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                      • Kuragio
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                        • Feb 2009
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                        #71
                        The more I learn about the Greek, the less I know about them! Who are they?

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                        • Soldier of Macedon
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #72
                          It depends on what you mean by Greek, as it meant a number of things at different times in history.
                          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                          • Kuragio
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                            • Feb 2009
                            • 3

                            #73
                            People say that Greeks speak the oldest language in the world (with Chinese), that the Greek language has developed from thousands of years ago. But does speaking Greek mean they (or anyone else) is Greek? In the Republic of Macedonia, some people say that Macedonian is the oldest language in the world and that it gave bith to the Greek and the Slavic and a few other languages. I think it's ime for some good Macedonian wine!

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
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                              • Sep 2008
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                              #74
                              Both Macedonian and the Indo-European % of Greek (?) are of common ancestry with all other European tongues. I don't know about the dialects in Macedonia being the first or oldest of all Slavic dialects in existence, but I do know that all the rest were heavily influenced by Macedonian in some way or another during the glory days of Old Church Slavonic.

                              Greek is not the oldest language in the world.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                              • Pelister
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                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2742

                                #75
                                Some of the code words, or "secret pass words" used by members of this "Greek" organization.

                                According to the contemporary historian Gordon, the secret code words of the Hetarists included Albanian words such as "sipsi" which in Albanian means "pipe" (p.44), and Turkish words such as "Hakyke" (p.45) ...

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