Mother language - Macedonian, found in Greek report from 1911!

[Bratot]

Fala ti mnogu Daskale, se razbira deka chinit!

[Bratot]

I edited the first post.

Thank you Daskale for the help, highly appreciated!

[Droog]

Just for the record Dalipi-s is an Albanian surname

[Daskalot]

Just for the record Dalipi-s is an Albanian surname

So are you implying that the school inspector did not know the difference between Macedonian and Albanian? Yet he managed to seperate them in the list.
So the surname could not have been Dalip-ov, removing the common Greek ending -is.

[Droog]

So are you implying that the school inspector did not know the difference between Macedonian and Albanian? Yet he managed to seperate them in the list.
So the surname could not have been Dalip-ov, removing the common Greek ending -is.

All I'm saying is that the surname is Albanian, the person's self-identification and all the other issues have nothing to do with it. Either way each of these people and their families spoke at least two languages, so the language field has more to do with national self-identification than the mother tongue itself. Obviously the -ou suffixes aren't real but conventional surnames probably based on their fathers' or grandfathers' names.

[Bratot]

All I'm saying is that the surname is Albanian, the person's self-identification and all the other issues have nothing to do with it. Either way each of these people and their families spoke at least two languages, so the language field has more to do with national self-identification than the mother tongue itself. Obviously the -ou suffixes aren't real but conventional surnames probably based on their fathers' or grandfathers' names.

I noticed this Dalipis is from the village "Gavresi" - Gavresh.

His surname is evidented for another Dalipis from the same village of Gavresh, a Greek Andard who fought against Macedonians Komitadjis and at the end got killed by them.

Димитар Далипов или Далипо (Δημήτρης Νταλίπης}}, Димитрис Далипис) e андартрски капетан, деец на Елиномакедонскиот комитет и учесник во Борбата за Македонија.

http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80_%D0%94%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2

Greek source: http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%94%...80%CE%B7%CF%82

Black-and-white photograph of Dimitrios Dalipis, a former kleft who collaborated with various chieftains before organizing his own armed band, which was active against the comitadjis and the Turks, 1902-1906, Athens, National Historical Museum.http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/He.../img_D41e.html


As for the surname alone, it's very common among Greek (Dalipis-Νταλίπης), Bulgarian, Macedonian(Dalipov-Далипов, Dalipovski-Далиповски), Albanian(Dalipi) and Serbian(Dalipagich-Далипагић) names.

[Pelister]

All I'm saying is that the surname is Albanian, the person's self-identification and all the other issues have nothing to do with it. Either way each of these people and their families spoke at least two languages, so the language field has more to do with national self-identification than the mother tongue itself. Obviously the -ou suffixes aren't real but conventional surnames probably based on their fathers' or grandfathers' names.

All Albanian names (the ones that are not Arabic) originate from Serbian, Macedonian, Latin and Greek words.

[Droog]

I noticed this Dalipis is from the village "Gavresi" - Gavresh.

His surname is evidented for another Dalipis from the same village of Gavresh, a Greek Andard who fought against Macedonians Komitadjis and at the end got killed by them.

Димитар Далипов или Далипо (Δημήτρης Νταλίπης}}, Димитрис Далипис) e андартрски капетан, деец на Елиномакедонскиот комитет и учесник во Борбата за Македонија.

http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80_%D0%94%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B2

Greek source: http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%94%...80%CE%B7%CF%82

Black-and-white photograph of Dimitrios Dalipis, a former kleft who collaborated with various chieftains before organizing his own armed band, which was active against the comitadjis and the Turks, 1902-1906, Athens, National Historical Museum.http://www.macedonian-heritage.gr/He.../img_D41e.html


As for the surname alone, it's very common among Greek (Dalipis-Νταλίπης), Bulgarian, Macedonian(Dalipov-Далипов, Dalipovski-Далиповски), Albanian(Dalipi) and Serbian(Dalipagich-Далипагић) names.

That one's surname was Kehayias-Christoforidis, Dalipis was his nom-de-guerre. And no the surname itself is not common at all in Bulgaria or Macedonia etc. Not to mention that in Bulgaria its mostly found among Muslims. As Dalipagic it just means Dalipi Aga and its found mostly in Bosnian areas, so draw your own conclusions.

@Pelister do some reading before trying to discuss onomatology.

[Daskalot]

Droog, what does Dalip mean in Albanian?

[Bratot]

That one's surname was Kehayias-Christoforidis, Dalipis was his nom-de-guerre. And no the surname itself is not common at all in Bulgaria or Macedonia etc. Not to mention that in Bulgaria its mostly found among Muslims. As Dalipagic it just means Dalipi Aga and its found mostly in Bosnian areas, so draw your own conclusions.

Dalipov or Dalipovski is common surname in Macedonia and Bulgaria, it's even little odd that you would know better than me about it.

I specifically wrote the surnames in original versions if anyone try to search through google.

I'm not sure what are you trying to imply with the 'religion' criteria?

[Bratot]

And it's such weird coincidence that both examples of Dalipis came from the same village of Gavresh.

Any reference to support the nom-de-guerre theory?

And why would he chose such nom-de-guerre or why somebody gave it to him, sicne he is known in whole history literature under this name only.

[Droog]

Dalipov or Dalipovski is common surname in Macedonia and Bulgaria, it's even little odd that you would know better than me about it.

I specifically wrote the surnames in original versions if anyone try to search through google.

I'm not sure what are you trying to imply with the 'religion' criteria?

It's that common that when I search for it on google books for examples all I get is 2 results for Dalipov and one for Dalipovski(and it says On 7 February, two Roma, Skender Sadikovic and Memet Dalipovski...)

[Bratot]

It's that common that when I search for it on google books for examples all I get is 2 results for Dalipov and one for Dalipovski(and it says On 7 February, two Roma, Skender Sadikovic and Memet Dalipovski...)

Since when Google Books makes the criteria for common surnames?

Don't be childlish, it's obvious you are just making up things on the go.

Btw you didn't answered on rest of my questions.

[Droog]

Since when Google Books makes the criteria for common surnames?

Don't be childlish, it's obvious you are just making up things on the go.

Btw you didn't answered on rest of my questions.

OK search for it on google or on facebook or anywhere else you want, it still will be very uncommon. It's that uncommon that the second result you'll get after searching for "dalipov surname" is this page.

In fact on facebook there are "over 500 results" for Dalipi, 33 for Dalipov and 75 for Dalipovski. Of course these Dalipovskis have predominantly names like Latif, Bajram, Ramiz etc., so you can draw your own conclusions.

send you the link of a book on pm
buy and read it, it has bio info about most of the relatively unknown pro-Greek figures like Dalipis.

[Bratot]

OK search for it on google or on facebook or anywhere else you want, it still will be very uncommon. It's that uncommon that the second result you'll get after searching for "dalipov surname" is this page.

In fact on facebook there are "over 500 results" for Dalipi, 33 for Dalipov and 75 for Dalipovski. Of course these Dalipovskis have predominantly names like Latif, Bajram, Ramiz etc., so you can draw your own conclusions.
send you the link of a book on pm
buy and read it, it has bio info about most of the relatively unknown pro-Greek figures like Dalipis.

You are going into circle with me, you failed to provide any online available reference about Dalipis which is odd and you are trying to prove the common Macedonian surnames with Google or Facebook?

Dalipov:
2,550 results on Google
Dalipovski:
6,400 results on Google

Daliposki:
4,760 results on Google

Далипов:
517 results on Google

Далиповски:
450 results on Google

Далипоски:
1,020 results on Google


Btw, tell us your own conclussions about the religious connection with these surnames?