"They call themselves Macedonians"

[vicsinad]

International Moulders' and Foundry Workers' Journal, Volume 49, 1913, Pg. 113:

Macedonians living in Bulgaria were compelled to serve in the Macedonian Volunteer Corps. Only those who had not reached the age of eighteen were free from compulsory mandatory service

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This quote is also important for noting that many Macedonians did not want to serve in the Bulgarian army, even though they did.

[vicsinad]

This one is pretty good...should be plastered on the front of this forum

We wonder how many Macedonians -- real Macedonians -- attended the so-called Macedonian meeting recently held in opposition to the cause of Macedonian emancipation in Athens. Possibly one, probably none...But all the distinguished phil-Hellenists in the world, backed by all the pseudo-Macedonians in Greece, cannot get over the fact that Macedonia is in a frightful state of disorder and misgovernment, that there is as much hope of Macedonia being declared Greek as of its being declared Spanish...

from The Pall Mall Budget, January 9, 1885, Pg. 26.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Mbg_AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA26&dq=macedonians+irish&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj33NimqqXUAhXMDywKHZTQAIE4HhDoAQghMAA#v=onepage&q=macedonians%20irish&f=false

[maco2envy]

This one is pretty good...should be plastered on the front of this forum



from The Pall Mall Budget, January 9, 1885, Pg. 26.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Mb...0irish&f=false

Looks like this author underestimated the strength of the philhellenists...

[vicsinad]

There is a population of about two and a half million in Macedonia who have in the past been steadily fighting for their national independence. But at the Versailles Conference, this country was partitioned among the Greeks, the Jugo-Slavs, and the Bulgarians...

There is no difference between the attitude of these new-born imperialistic powers towards Macedonia and that of France toward the people of Alsace-Lorraine. Their policy is either to suppress or denationalize them...The Macedonians, however, are going ahead with their plans and are fighting for the realization of their dream of an independent and free Macedonia Confederation.

from:

The Chinese Student's Monthly, Issues 2-3. 1927. Pg. 40.

https://books.google.com/books?id=wlojAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA40&dq=macedonians+in+france&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiXn8_u46vUAhUEaz4KHXdUAWkQ6AEIKjAB#v=onepage&q=macedonians%20in%20france&f=false

[vicsinad]

The civilian population of Salonica is made up largely of Spanish Jews, Macedonians, Gypsies, Greeks, Turks and Dummies (Jews of Mahommedan faith).

-The News Letter: Atlantic Division, American Red Cross, Vol. II, No. 43, November 10, 1919, Pg. 6.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Bac6AQAAMAAJ&pg=PT359&dq=%22jews,+macedonians%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizqpz3m-bUAhXJVD4KHRqOBHEQ6AEIJDAA#v=onepage&q=%22jews%2C%20macedonians%22&f=false

[Carlin]

Vasil Sterjovski revealed documents of Italian, French and Bulgarian origin, which testify that Macedonians in Albania (namely Gora, Golo Brdo, Vrbnik...) declared themselves as Macedonians since 1923.

URL:

https://vecer.mk/makedonija/sterjovski-gi-pregazi-albancite-i-bugarofilite-vo-zhivo

Please Watch the Video to see Vasil Sterjovski talk about these documents.

[Om3n]

"We were a cosmopolitan gathering. There was Dr. S., a Roumanian, an Austrian ornithologist, a Scotchman, our innkeeper was a Macedonian, and two or three Montenegrins. From that evening date many of the pleasant friendships which we made in Montenegro."

"...Albanians in high riding-boots, sitting their horses like Life Guardsmen; Macedonians, Greeks, and even pure-blooded Turks; Montenegrins in creamy white frock-coats worn over gold-braided crimson jackets; and dark-blue costumes with red worsted tassels of the poor Dalmatian peasants—all passed us in bewildering confusion."

--- The Land of the Black Mountain: The Adventures of Two Englishmen in Montenegro by Reginald Wyon and Geraldn Prance (1903)

[Om3n]

In the 11th and 12th Centuries, the citizens of Constantinople were apparently organized into phatr’ai. References are few, but tantalizing; further investigation is warranted.

Phatr’ai is a late-classical variant of phr‡tra, A tribe" or "subdivision of a tribe." This root meaning survives in a few 12th-Century usages: In 1138, Nicetas Choniates 1 (29-30) reports that John II divided his army by ethnic group and phatr’ai: Macedonians, Turks, Franks, etc. In 1184, the soldiers defending Nikaia held meetings by phatr’ai (ibid., 284-5), possibly by nationality.

--- "The Problem of Phatr’ai in the 11-12th Centuries" by Charles M. Brand

[Niko777]

Found this in the Macedonian media. Apparently someone uploaded them to facebook, and date from 1928. My guess is that they were made as a souvenir by a Macedonian immigrant organization in Sofia.

[Liberator of Makedonija]

Found this in the Macedonian media. Apparently someone uploaded them to facebook, and date from 1928. My guess is that they were made as a souvenir by a Macedonian immigrant organization in Sofia.

Pretty sure they were made by the Ilinden Organisation

[vicsinad]

I'm guessing the MPO in the US. Two reasons: the names on the stamps are not written in Cyrillic, and Todor Aleksandrov made the short list of featured revolutionaries.

[VMRO]

I'm guessing the MPO in the US. Two reasons: the names on the stamps are not written in Cyrillic, and Todor Aleksandrov made the short list of featured revolutionaries.

Vic is right on the money, seen similar united Macedonia map on MPO brochures. The article stipulates that the stamps are from the US so another indication of MPO origins.

However, i'm surprised they didn't use the "ff" in Deltcheff, Alexandroff and Grueff.

[vicsinad]

VMRO:

Good point on the -ff endings. However, being that MPO was around only 6 years at that point, perhaps they weren't as attached to the -ff endings yet.

Then again, who knows. My great-grandpa was -off since coming to the States in 1911 and he was anti-MPO.

[Niko777]

-ff was just the common way of spelling in English before the 1950s.
It has nothing to do with political affiliation.

[VMRO]

VMRO:

Good point on the -ff endings. However, being that MPO was around only 6 years at that point, perhaps they weren't as attached to the -ff endings yet.

Then again, who knows. My great-grandpa was -off since coming to the States in 1911 and he was anti-MPO.

Different graphics designer/editor i guess.