Greek lies on the izmir fire are beyond the pale of human decency

[thessalo-niki]

Very nice finding, Onur, especially from a Greek source

Technically speaking it's "Greek" (Nekratzas is a doctor and amateur historian who lives in Netherlands and defines himself as an ethnic-Macedonian). It's not a source, just a reference to Turkish sources.
There's a funny contradiction. Take my ancestors, Greek Christians, living in Adramytion/Edremit, a little northern to Smyrna until 1910s-1920s (they left twice).
According to Greek propaganda they were descendants and continuers of ancient Greeks of Ionia.
According to Soldier of Macedon, they were... Turkish Christians who probably could not speak Greek.
According to the above Turkish propaganda, they were Greeks who probably moved there from the area of Modern Greece, a few decades before 1920s.
So, WTF were they?
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Odyseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

[Bill77]

There's a funny contradiction. Take my ancestors, Greek Christians, living in Adramytion/Edremit, a little northern to Smyrna until 1910s-1920s (they left twice).
According to Greek propaganda they were descendants and continuers of ancient Greeks of Ionia.
According to ethnic-Macedonian propaganda, they were... Turkish Christians who probably could not speak Greek.
According to the above Turkish propaganda, they were Greeks who probably moved there from the area of Modern Greece, a few decades before 1920s.

At least we stick to our beliefs and don't change. Actually its just not our belief, there are plenty of sources to back what we know.

So, WTF were they?

Welcome to our world. Acording to Greece we are named many things. The problem is not only are they all untrue, but i wish they can stick to one lie. But we know exactly who we are.

[Onur]

There's a funny contradiction. Take my ancestors, Greek Christians, living in Adramytion/Edremit, a little northern to Smyrna until 1910s-1920s (they left twice).
According to Greek propaganda they were descendants and continuers of ancient Greeks of Ionia.
According to ethnic-Macedonian propaganda, they were... Turkish Christians who probably could not speak Greek.
According to the above Turkish propaganda, they were Greeks who probably moved there from the area of Modern Greece, a few decades before 1920s.
So, WTF were they?
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Odyseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

Same author tries to explain who were your/our ancestors in his book here;

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19

He basically says all the people in the Balkans like Turks, Bulgars, Greeks etc. are the members of single ethnic mosaic and a result of cultural melange. Tough not as much as he claims but I agree to him in some degree.

He mostly examines the people who lived in Macedonia region in this book. The most interesting thing in the book for me was common names of the people and common placenames still present in Turkey, ROM, Greece, Bulgaria. These are usually the names of 11th to 15th century rulers, certain ethnicity and societies like "Garvas, Ayvadzidis, Gabrakov, Ayvadoglou", "Kumanov, Kumanski, Kumanli, Kumanovali" "Lizikos, Lizakos, Lizakoglou", "Patsiniakidis, Petchenek, Pethcneyakov" etc.

[Soldier of Macedon]

According to Greek propaganda they were descendants and continuers of ancient Greeks of Ionia.
According to ethnic-Macedonian propaganda, they were... Turkish Christians who probably could not speak Greek.

According to SoM propaganda, you're about one idiotic mistake away from being thrown out of here. I told you last time, and I will not tell you again, when you make reference to Greeks, Turks, etc, you will refer to Macedonians as Macedonians. When you refer to ethnic Greeks, ethnic Turks, etc, then you can refer to Macedonians as ethnic Macedonians.

Try and dilute my Macedonian heritage again.

[johnMKD]

Technically speaking it's "Greek" (Nekratzas is a doctor and amateur historian who lives in Netherlands and defines himself as an ethnic-Macedonian). It's not a source, just a reference to Turkish sources.
There's a funny contradiction. Take my ancestors, Greek Christians, living in Adramytion/Edremit, a little northern to Smyrna until 1910s-1920s (they left twice).
According to Greek propaganda they were descendants and continuers of ancient Greeks of Ionia.
According to Soldier of Macedon, they were... Turkish Christians who probably could not speak Greek.
According to the above Turkish propaganda, they were Greeks who probably moved there from the area of Modern Greece, a few decades before 1920s.
So, WTF were they?
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Odyseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

It's not important the source for what I'm saying, Thessaloniki. If you read my post you'll realise that it's of a complete different nature.

About your ancestors? Welcome to the club! I guess they are like my ancestors. For me it's not important what they were; I mean a DNA test of theirs could have been very surprising!! The idea is that no matter what they were, they were brought after the 1922 events to Greece as "Greeks". This is what matters. If the choice of the Turkish government was to send away its Christian citizens to Greece, it's something that now matters a little. Back then, maybe it was just a bad choice.