Greek 'Führer' vows to take Izmir and Blacksea (Pontus) after Istanbul

[George S.]

to all intents & purposes they are actually more turkish than greek.I think the greek govt has made a lot of stupid promises it has never kept & now looks like realisation time.If they can go back to izmir & instanbul they are both beatifull places they feel the promissed land is coming back to them.Of course they must be homesick but whether the greeks can actually pull it off is another matter i'm sure the turks aren't going to sit back & let them take thei izmir & instantbull.I think the greeks are so stupid that they will try to pull it off.Why did they trick the eu to buy them 400 tanks & to fortify the greek turkish borders with fences,what supposedly to stop illegals??What a joke.
Turkey isn't goin to take it lying down they are going to take military measures.The other countries will be reluctant to get involved straight away & might even let them have it out.Well Macedonia has to decide whom it supports the greeks or the turks.Camn macedonia be neutral in all this???After all it has signed alliances with turkey.

[Pelister]

Originally Posted by George S.

to all intents & purposes they are actually more turkish than greek.I think the greek govt has made a lot of stupid promises it has never kept & now looks like realisation time.If they can go back to izmir & instanbul they are both beatifull places they feel the promissed land is coming back to them.Of course they must be homesick but whether the greeks can actually pull it off is another matter i'm sure the turks aren't going to sit back & let them take thei izmir & instantbull.I think the greeks are so stupid that they will try to pull it off.Why did they trick the eu to buy them 400 tanks & to fortify the greek turkish borders with fences,what supposedly to stop illegals??What a joke.
Turkey isn't goin to take it lying down they are going to take military measures.The other countries will be reluctant to get involved straight away & might even let them have it out.Well Macedonia has to decide whom it supports the greeks or the turks.Camn macedonia be neutral in all this???After all it has signed alliances with turkey.

I think that Greece wants to destabilise the whole region so that it can get more Macedonian territory. Taking Istanbul is of course insane, but if it has a prearranged agreement with Bulgaria, Albanian or Serbia of carving up more Macedonian territory, then I could see why they might be looking to destabilize the region - provoke a general war and use it and then, consequently, "just happen" to end up with more Macedonian land.

[SirGeorge8600]

Originally Posted by Onur

Why not? As you know, creating external problems to make people forget the internal problems is a good trick of the politicians. If Golden Dawn neo-nazis gets in power, their best solution for the Greece`s economical problems would be creating an artificial tension with Turkey.

Maybe not on some but this trick works for the most.

This is true. It's classical text-book fascism. Much like the real Nazi party created all of the Jewish crimes/bombings prior to Hitler's election into power.

[SirGeorge8600]

Originally Posted by George S.

May i remind you guys that turkey is the third most powerfull nato country in Nato.

Erm, idk what Turkey's ranking is, but France has third last time I checked. They also have nukes too.

Originally Posted by George S.

May i also say in the event of war macedonia should offer turkey any access point from macedonia to clobber these nutcases from greece.

Why? Greece and Turkey have the biggest navies in the Mediterranean and I believe Europe. It would be a naval and air based battle. The Greek islands would be extremely strategic in such an event. However both Greece and Turkey have American bases on their islands so if one of these bases are accidentally attacked then America (let's be real now) would stop the war in any way it takes. In fact I'm pretty sure that any war in Europe would strongly involve America, they're an imperial power in their military. In fact I would be surprised if there were Turkish and Greek generals who have connections to the CIA in secret from their compatriots. Eh...I might be pushing it

Originally Posted by George S.

I think any moves like these will end up decimating greece completely economically

lol what is it now?

Originally Posted by George S.

militarily.etc maybe that's why greece bought those 400 tanks & got the eu to pay for them.

Huge money is made by German and French bankers and military industrialists when they sell their stuff even to Greece. It doesn't matter if Greece can't pay for it. They use their loan money to pay for it, and Germany might even be willing to go light if they buy their products. These weapons manufacturers don't care, they just care that they get their money at the end of the day, not where it comes from. I remember back in 2009 (or 08?) When France was strongly encouraging Greece to buy subs and military frigates to help boost it's economy. They said it would help

Originally Posted by George S.

to decimate the greeks

Contrary to Western belief, Turkey isn't a genocidal nation. If the Kurds have been poking so much shit at them and still haven't been decimated then idk what. But in reality no ethnic group can ever be decimated. The most famous case was the Holocaust. The Nazi's had the most efficient and effective tools for industrialized extermination and a military power that was bigger than Greece's and Turkey's combined. The Jews were poor and didn't even have their own country. Still, millions survived. Not only this, but now the German's are burdened by this to the modern day and the Jews are one of the most recognized people in the world because if it. The Holocaust is the most recognized genocide in history. Not to mention that most of the military personnel responsible have all been caught and sentenced by international courts, except for a handful. I think this is proof that "decimation" is just a dream of nationalists.

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Pelister

I think that Greece wants to destabilise the whole region so that it can get more Macedonian territory. Taking Istanbul is of course insane, but if it has a prearranged agreement with Bulgaria, Albanian or Serbia of carving up more Macedonian territory, then I could see why they might be looking to destabilize the region - provoke a general war and use it and then, consequently, "just happen" to end up with more Macedonian land.

This is soo f@ckin hilarious. You guys keep crackin me up. This Turk is rubbing off on most of you.....

[George S.]

with the new party being elected does anyone feel they will still go for izmir & instantbull.?

[Bill77]

Originally Posted by fatso

This is soo f@ckin hilarious. You guys keep crackin me up. This Turk is rubbing off on most of you.....

Pelister might be on to something mate, so don't get into stitches yet.

This coming straight from your now newly elected leader

QUOTE: At 1:44, Samaras says: “… I don’t know exactly when, but I believe that soon Skopia will no longer exist as a unified subject, that means that time is on our side, practically, it is on our side. Because I think they won’t be able to maintain unity… ”

Samaras-English - YouTube [/quote]

If that's not wishing and preying for destabilisation, i don't know what is my Orthodox brother.

Now what was it you said about Onur (a Turk) and favouring Albanians?

[George S.]

these people making crazy talk promises may actually deliver them.Why because they beleive them & they want the masses to beleive them.We'll see maybe they'll do something ie lead by example.

[fatso]

Greece has managed to destabilize itself,,,,,Greece invading countries or destabilizing the Balkans like your Turk friend indicates is laughable.

[Onur]

Originally Posted by fatso

Greece has managed to destabilize itself,,,,,Greece invading countries or destabilizing the Balkans like your Turk friend indicates is laughable.

I am not indicating anything. It`s your sorry pseudo-state`s politicians does all these things and you come up here, mumbling about me just because i posted these videos, articles from Greek media here.

Tough, you are a product of your pathetic state, so i am not surprised by your stupid reaction to me either.