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Commander Bond 06-23-2011 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=Makedonska_Kafana;102860][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WGjszGksPc]YouTube - ‪Just who the hell do you think you people are? - Preserving the EU project at any cost‬‏[/url][/QUOTE]

Brilliant. I wish our politicians had the balls to speak like this and voice it to the EU just as Farage did. I liked the fact he called them dangerous.

Delodephius 06-23-2011 07:47 PM

Well if the EU was lead by people like him "there would be flour from that rye" as my people say.

Delodephius 06-25-2011 03:23 PM

[url]http://www.federaleurope.org/index.php?id=13653&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=6155&cHash=20eade982385922c9fd821c1d7ca7c00[/url]

[B]The UEF for a European growth policy and a Federal Budget[/B]
By Guido Montani, UEF Vice-President.

The European Federalists taking note that:

- national governments faced the financial crisis with partial and inadequate policies creating the image of a European Union divided among virtuous countries and profligate countries, without considering that in a Monetary Union, with many countries with different problems of growth, it is inevitable that the weak national economies are unable to face the competition of the global market;

- national governments reacted to the Arab springtime with fears, more worried by the immigration wave than by the need to show what a united Europe could do for the future of the Arab peoples; and when they decided to help Libya’s rebels with military means, they showed to the world how divided and weak Europe is;

[B]- the EU is facing a deep crisis because the national governments have lost of sight the final goal of European integration singled out by the founding fathers: a Federal Europe;[/B]

- the oblivion of the European goal is the main cause of the spread of populism and euroscepticism in several countries and the reckless revolt of young and unemployed people against a EU incapable to understand their hopes and their needs;

persuaded that with the active participation of European citizens, the political revival of the European federal goal is possible

demand:

- to the European parties in the European Parliament

a) to support the Haug-Lamassoure-Verhofstadt project “Europe for Growth” which proposes to substitute all national contributions to the EU budget with European own resources (coming from a percentage of the VAT, a carbon tax, a tax on financial transactions) and a plan for public investments of 1% of GDP, financed by the EIB with the issues of project eurobonds, in order to promote the growth of the European economy, create new jobs and a sustainable development;

b) to support the Duff’s proposal for a European election reform, in order to create a single European constituency to favour a debate among the main political European leaders on the future of the EU and enhance citizens’ participation;

c) in view of the European election of 2014, to put in their program a clear proposals for a European growth policy, the creation of a federal budget, a federal foreign policy and a federal government; moreover they should announce who is their candidate to the Presidency of the European Commission before the European election;

- to national governments:

a) to stop their short-sighted veto’s policy against the increase of the European budget; the main wastage of public finances comes form national budget, which finances expenses for public goods, such as military defence, which can be cheaply and more efficiently provided with a single EU defence policy;

b) to exploit the Lisbon Treaty to gather a group of countries favouring the creation of a federal budget and a federal foreign policy;

- to European citizens, civil society organisations and political parties to support an action in favour of a European growth policy joining a network for a European citizens’ initiative.

Onur 06-25-2011 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=Delodephius;103084][url]http://www.federaleurope.org/index.php?id=13653&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=6155&cHash=20eade982385922c9fd821c1d7ca7c00[/url]

[B]The UEF for a European growth policy and a Federal Budget[/B]
By Guido Montani, UEF Vice-President.[/QUOTE]

This is just one stupid article.



[QUOTE]- the EU is facing a deep crisis because the national governments have lost of sight the final goal of European integration singled out by the founding fathers: a Federal Europe;[/QUOTE]

What a lie!!! This is just saying, "OK, we fcked up but continue to obey to the few eurocrats in Brussels".

The truth is the exact opposite. All european countries are loosing power in world stage since the day they became EU members and since the day they started to obey the federalist policy of nonsense, leaded by French lobby.

The economical statistics proves that downhill. Watch British MEP`s speech here, he mentions about the statistics of the European countries share of world GDP b4 and after EU;
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2j4oCDBbts]YouTube - ‪Daniel Hannan - Germany no longer needs Europe‬‏[/url]


Delodephius, don't believe the lies, just look at the truth in numbers. Btw, no matter what they say, EU federalist dreams are over, accept that anymore.

Delodephius 06-25-2011 05:44 PM

Numbers? Numbers?! The only single thing in this world that I don't trust are numbers. Never have and never will.

George S. 06-25-2011 05:44 PM

At the moment the eu has no jurisdiction on macedonia as soon as it joins macedonia will get her share of someonelses debt & surrender their soveregnity at the same time.

Delodephius 06-25-2011 05:46 PM

[QUOTE]The truth is the exact opposite. All european countries are loosing power in world stage [U]since the day they became EU members[/U] and since the day they started to obey the federalist policy of nonsense, leaded by French lobby.[/QUOTE]
Well duh! That's the whole point. Individual European countries are suppose to lose power and eventually their sovereignty. And eventually all countries in the world. That is what I support.

George S. 06-25-2011 05:46 PM

proof of what i have been saying that germany may pull the pin because it's not there to keep bailing stupid nations out.germany can survive without the eu.

George S. 06-25-2011 05:48 PM

The other evidence of the eu crumbling that it's multiculyurist policies are crumbling so much that border controls have been necessary to keep undesirables out.

Onur 06-25-2011 05:58 PM

[FONT="Verdana"][QUOTE=Delodephius;102795]But if the EU flag belongs to the Eurocrats, if I want it to be mine, I guess I'll just have do my best to become an Eurocrat. :euro:[/QUOTE]

Nah, i dont think so cuz these Eurocrats claims to be leftists but they discriminate people more than far-rightists. To be one of them, you gotta be western European, preferably catholic and have the "elegance Français", tu compris monsieur?

In their eyes, you are from Balkans, which is a muslim infested gypsy land. But don't worry, you have your duty in United states of Europe too, which would be something like;
[QUOTE]Kate's dazzling dress is made in Romanian 'sweatshop' by women on just 99p an hour

Costing £175 on the high street, it helped the Duchess of Cambridge outshine the First Lady. But the Reiss dress that made such an impression when the pair met this week was manufactured by women paid only 99p an hour in a poor suburb of the Romanian capital, the Daily Mail has discovered.

[url]http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5595[/url][/QUOTE][/FONT]


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