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  • indigen
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1558

    Washington Post (Salonika 1977): "sign in shop window anounces...Macedonian is spoken

    A sign in his window announces that Macedonian, the language of
    Yugoslavia's southernmost republic, is spoken. The language is now a
    requirement for all of his clerks.


    ---------------

    DATELINE: SALONIKA, Greece
    Date: 24 Oct 1998
    [email protected]
    alt.news.macedonia

    The Washington Post
    June 14, 1977, Tuesday, Final Edition

    Affluent Yugoslavs Crowd Shops Across Border in Greece
    By Mary Anne Weaver, Special to The Washington Post

    DATELINE: SALONIKA, Greece

    Times have changed at the border between Greece and Yugoslavia.
    Twenty-five years ago it was a formidable barrier, closed to prevent
    Greece's defeated Communist armies from fleeing north.

    Today it is open and thriving. Now, the Yugoslavs are heading south.
    Every weekend they spill across the border, well-dressed, driving
    private cars. One of the most talked about phenomena in this northern
    Greek city, known to Greeks as Thessaloniki, is the affluent Yugoslav.
    They come here, and to the Florina area of Greece's Macedonia region, as
    tourists, as young lovers, but more often, on Fridays and Saturdays, to
    shop.

    Last year some 700,000 Yugoslavs crossed the border of their
    Communist-ruled nation, loaded with American dollars, French francs and
    West German marks.

    "They're spending a fortune," said one diplomatic official, "But it's
    impossible to compile figures. There is no currency control in
    Yugolsavia, and every Yugoslav has both a dinar (the Yugoslav currency)
    and a foreign currency account. But, presuming that they all spend one,
    two, three hundred dollars on each shopping expedition, this is an
    extraordinary amount."

    Figures of the Greek National Tourist Organization indicate that in 1976
    Yugoslav tourists spent $11 million in Greece. But officials caution
    that the real figure is much higher.

    "This accounts for transport, lodging," said one tourist official, "not
    for all their shopping sprees."

    They crowd the hotels of one of Salonika's main shopping areas, the
    bustling Egnatia Street. In the fashionable restaurants one hears a
    babble of Slavic today.

    The Yugoslavs has bought up thousands of cassettes, radios, and the
    resplendent, often garish crystal chandeliers that are a trademark of
    this city. They also buy textiles, shoes and leather products, fashion
    items from Salonika's chic boutiques.

    In the past, they have come individually, not in organized tour groups.
    But, during Greece's annual February sales period, an enterprising
    Yugoslav tour operator organized hundreds of busloads from Skopje and
    Bitola, to do their shopping in Greece.

    "I've been in business for two years," said Yiannis Alevropoulos, 24.
    "They could make me a millionaire."

    Outside his tiny shop on Egnatia, an American flag is emblazoned by
    flashing lights. Alevropoulos's shop, "Unisex," specialized in
    American blue jeans.

    "Eighty per cent of my foreign customers are form Yugoslavia," he said.
    "On weekdays, I take in about $1,000. When the Yugoslavs come on
    Friday and Saturday, I gross three times that amount."

    Alevropoulos's American and Italian blue jeans go for $33 a pair. They
    come in all shapes and sizes, as do his Yugoslav buyers.

    ------------------------

    A sign in his window announces that Macedonian, the language of
    Yugoslavia's southermost republic, is spoken. The language is now a
    requirement for all of his clerks.

    ------------------------
    In the large department stores of Glaoudatos and Dimitriadis, price tags
    are in both Greek drachmas and Yugoslav dinars. Clerks speaking
    Macedonian are given preference in hiring. Some shops advertise a 10
    per cent discount for the free-spending Yugoslavs.
    -----------------------

    "During last summer's economic crisis," said merchant Stavros Kassiadis,
    "We were saved . . . we got rid of our entire stock of miniskirts to the
    visiting Yugoslavs."

    The queues have become so massive at the border crossing points of
    Idomeni and Evzoni, 52 miles from here, that Yugoslav officials are now
    negotiating with Greek authorities to open additional frontier
    crossings. They are also urging the Athens government to eliminate
    visas. In Europe Yugoslavia requires visas for only Albania, Spain and
    Greece.

    "It's become a fad," said one official. "Greece is now the 'in' place.
    (President) Tito's been here, (Greek Prime Minister Constantine)
    Karamanlis has visited Yugoslavia."

    "It shows how things are changing in Europe and the eastern
    Mediterranean today," said one analyst. "The threat is now considered
    to be from the east, from NATO partner Turkey. It's no longer from the
    north."

    -----------

    For fair use only.
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #2
    What an excellent find Indigen, thanks for sharing this information. Yet another case of Greek amnesia;
    Clerks speaking Macedonian are given preference in hiring.
    I never thought I would see the day when Macedonian-speakers are given preference in Greece!! Just another piece of evidence that proves the Greek claim to Macedonia is a (recently) constructed absurdity.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • indigen
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 1558

      #3
      Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
      What an excellent find Indigen, thanks for sharing this information. Yet another case of Greek amnesia;

      I never thought I would see the day when Macedonian-speakers are given preference in Greece!! Just another piece of evidence that proves the Greek claim to Macedonia is a (recently) constructed absurdity.
      It has been on internet for many years now and I know the anti-Macedonian Greek chauvinists then wanted to delude themselves that it was a forgery! :-)

      I once checked the Washington Post archives and the article is available but needs to be purchased. If someone in USA has access to a good library and can get an image copy, it would be very good thing to have.

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      • Rogi
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        An excellent find indeed.

        It is not only a glimpse at the past, but a potential vision of the not too distant future, as the economy of the Republic of Macedonia grows, whilst Greece's economy stagnates.

        I have always held the belief that economics, trade and natural growth and progression, which initially led to the Macedonians being the main group populating all of Macedonia over the last couple of thousand years, is what will again result in Macedonians becoming the predominant group inhabiting all of Macedonia, not just the Republic of Macedonia.

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        • The LION will ROAR
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 3231

          #5
          This is Gold.. we need to get a copy of this..
          I remember my older cousins use to tell me that in those days of Yugoslavia many where living the life, everyone had money and work..they always travelled to Greece to buy things because it was cheap and they use to say how the greeks were peasants back then..
          WOW... How EU money can change people from goat herder peasants to Yerros shop owners...
          The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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          • Daskalot
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4345

            #6
            Nice find Indigen, I have the complete article. I will publish it within 24 hours
            Macedonian Truth Organisation

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            • Mastika
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 503

              #7
              Originally posted by Rogi View Post
              An excellent find indeed.

              It is not only a glimpse at the past, but a potential vision of the not too distant future, as the economy of the Republic of Macedonia grows, whilst Greece's economy stagnates.

              I have always held the belief that economics, trade and natural growth and progression, which initially led to the Macedonians being the main group populating all of Macedonia over the last couple of thousand years, is what will again result in Macedonians becoming the predominant group inhabiting all of Macedonia, not just the Republic of Macedonia.
              It is a very interesting article showing how realistic cooperation between the two peoples is and how Macedonians are willing to work with the Greek people. However, Rogi what you have written is equally as interesting. What exactly makes you think that Macedonians will once again become the majority group even outside of the RoM?, whereas virtually all commentators are saying the opposite basing their claims on statistical trends.

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              • Daskalot
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4345

                #8
                Originally posted by indigen View Post
                A sign in his window announces that Macedonian, the language of
                Yugoslavia's southernmost republic, is spoken. The language is now a
                requirement for all of his clerks.


                ---------------

                DATELINE: SALONIKA, Greece
                Date: 24 Oct 1998
                [email protected]
                alt.news.macedonia

                The Washington Post
                June 14, 1977, Tuesday, Final Edition

                Affluent Yugoslavs Crowd Shops Across Border in Greece
                By Mary Anne Weaver, Special to The Washington Post

                DATELINE: SALONIKA, Greece

                Times have changed at the border between Greece and Yugoslavia.
                Twenty-five years ago it was a formidable barrier, closed to prevent
                Greece's defeated Communist armies from fleeing north.

                Today it is open and thriving. Now, the Yugoslavs are heading south.
                Every weekend they spill across the border, well-dressed, driving
                private cars. One of the most talked about phenomena in this northern
                Greek city, known to Greeks as Thessaloniki, is the affluent Yugoslav.
                They come here, and to the Florina area of Greece's Macedonia region, as
                tourists, as young lovers, but more often, on Fridays and Saturdays, to
                shop.

                Last year some 700,000 Yugoslavs crossed the border of their
                Communist-ruled nation, loaded with American dollars, French francs and
                West German marks.

                "They're spending a fortune," said one diplomatic official, "But it's
                impossible to compile figures. There is no currency control in
                Yugolsavia, and every Yugoslav has both a dinar (the Yugoslav currency)
                and a foreign currency account. But, presuming that they all spend one,
                two, three hundred dollars on each shopping expedition, this is an
                extraordinary amount."

                Figures of the Greek National Tourist Organization indicate that in 1976
                Yugoslav tourists spent $11 million in Greece. But officials caution
                that the real figure is much higher.

                "This accounts for transport, lodging," said one tourist official, "not
                for all their shopping sprees."

                They crowd the hotels of one of Salonika's main shopping areas, the
                bustling Egnatia Street. In the fashionable restaurants one hears a
                babble of Slavic today.

                The Yugoslavs has bought up thousands of cassettes, radios, and the
                resplendent, often garish crystal chandeliers that are a trademark of
                this city. They also buy textiles, shoes and leather products, fashion
                items from Salonika's chic boutiques.

                In the past, they have come individually, not in organized tour groups.
                But, during Greece's annual February sales period, an enterprising
                Yugoslav tour operator organized hundreds of busloads from Skopje and
                Bitola, to do their shopping in Greece.

                "I've been in business for two years," said Yiannis Alevropoulos, 24.
                "They could make me a millionaire."

                Outside his tiny shop on Egnatia, an American flag is emblazoned by
                flashing lights. Alevropoulos's shop, "Unisex," specialized in
                American blue jeans.

                "Eighty per cent of my foreign customers are form Yugoslavia," he said.
                "On weekdays, I take in about $1,000. When the Yugoslavs come on
                Friday and Saturday, I gross three times that amount."

                Alevropoulos's American and Italian blue jeans go for $33 a pair. They
                come in all shapes and sizes, as do his Yugoslav buyers.

                ------------------------

                A sign in his window announces that Macedonian, the language of
                Yugoslavia's southermost republic, is spoken. The language is now a
                requirement for all of his clerks.

                ------------------------
                In the large department stores of Glaoudatos and Dimitriadis, price tags
                are in both Greek drachmas and Yugoslav dinars. Clerks speaking
                Macedonian are given preference in hiring. Some shops advertise a 10
                per cent discount for the free-spending Yugoslavs.
                -----------------------

                "During last summer's economic crisis," said merchant Stavros Kassiadis,
                "We were saved . . . we got rid of our entire stock of miniskirts to the
                visiting Yugoslavs."

                The queues have become so massive at the border crossing points of
                Idomeni and Evzoni, 52 miles from here, that Yugoslav officials are now
                negotiating with Greek authorities to open additional frontier
                crossings. They are also urging the Athens government to eliminate
                visas. In Europe Yugoslavia requires visas for only Albania, Spain and
                Greece.

                "It's become a fad," said one official. "Greece is now the 'in' place.
                (President) Tito's been here, (Greek Prime Minister Constantine)
                Karamanlis has visited Yugoslavia."

                "It shows how things are changing in Europe and the eastern
                Mediterranean today," said one analyst. "The threat is now considered
                to be from the east, from NATO partner Turkey. It's no longer from the
                north."

                -----------

                For fair use only.
                And here is the original article, I am sorry I do not have a better copy of it, I hope it will suffice.



                This is now verbatim.
                Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                • Risto the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15658

                  #9
                  I wonder where they found employees who spoke Macedonian?

                  How soon the demented Greeks forget. It won't be long before they are reminded again.
                  Risto the Great
                  MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                  "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                  Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                  • Daskalot
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4345

                    #10
                    This article should be sent to every Greek news media, they shall eat their own words.
                    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                    • TrueMacedonian
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3812

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                      And here is the original article, I am sorry I do not have a better copy of it, I hope it will suffice.



                      This is now verbatim.
                      Nice post Daskale
                      Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                      • Soldier of Macedon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13670

                        #12
                        Daskale, arna rabota be!!
                        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                        • Daskalot
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4345

                          #13
                          Thank you, now lets send this article to every major Greek news outlet and the current Greek government.
                          Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                          • julie
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 3869

                            #14
                            Top stuff Daskale
                            "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                            • johnMKD
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 364

                              #15
                              Arna rabota, indeed, Daskalot! Do you have a means to send it to the Greek media and government? That would be perfect!
                              Macedonian and proud!

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