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Old 02-28-2009, 10:35 AM   #21
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Som, Vicho Mountain is between Lerin and Kostur, could the song be about the Macedonians during the GCW?, quoting Risto Stefov,
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When the Macedonians returned to their headquarters with the typewriter they realized they had no ribbon and had to fashion one from homemade materials. Using their newly acquired typewriter they were able to produce the first edition of an all Macedonian publication called "Sloboda" (Freedom). Then by using these publications the Macedonians in Lerin Region were rallied behind the all Macedonian MNLF(G). Despite Greek attempts to downplay the strength of this organization, it managed to draw massive support especially during its regional conference in February 1944 held in the village Bapchor in Vicho Mountain. Many Macedonians attended this conference and gave the MNLF(G) their support by demonstrating their wish to fight for equality and for a common cause together shoulder to shoulder with the Greek democratic people.
Here is also a link to pictures and a map
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:39 AM   #22
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If I am not mistaken that mountain is called "Vitsi" in Greek.

Severe battles were fought there during the Greek Civil War between Macedonian communist partisans and royal Greek fascists.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:13 AM   #23
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Bapchor

YouTube - Bapchor, Kostur, Aegean Macedonia
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Old 02-28-2009, 05:34 PM   #24
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If I am not mistaken that mountain is called "Vitsi" in Greek.

Severe battles were fought there during the Greek Civil War between Macedonian communist partisans and royal Greek fascists.
The Vicho (now Vitsi) is the mountain where too many Macedonians were killed. Even Grkomani shut the hell up when they go through there. If ghosts exist, that place would be full of them.

It is extremely close to my Father's village (Kotori) and is used as a pathway from Lerin to Kostur.

Now the Americans have a base there. And you are not allowed to even take photos there. I suspect nuclear warheads aimed at the rest of Europe.

SoM, that song sounds so familiar and I am am perplexed at my emotional attachment once I read familiar places and themes in the song.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:30 PM   #25
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It really is one of those type of songs RtG. Thanks for the follow up info about Vicho, I had only heard about it briefly in the past, and now I find out this. Clearly the place is of some significance for our people. If the song were on CD I would have tried to upload it, but I only have it on an old cassette tape that I accidentally stumbled on as I was looking for something else.

Maybe Orovnichanec can get it from MkMuzika?

MapleLeaf1, I would say that the song is definitely about the GCW. Not sure when it was made or recorded though.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:55 AM   #26
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Ubava Kalina, an excellent Macedonian song.

YouTube - Macedonia , Orce Stefkovski - Ubava Kalina

I will post the words later.
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Old 03-19-2009, 08:22 AM   #27
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From Risto Sishkov, the brilliant Macedonian actor and patriot. Posted by Rogi here:
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=1049

http://vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=30637B39...BD0C192CF05971

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Земи ги... очиве
моиве две остри сабји
нанижи си ги како два
златни синџири
околу твоите бели гради.
Земи ја... устава
од неа вода да пиеш
јас ќе си одам в планина
и ќе ти бидам комита.
Јас сум ти твојот комита
Ристо Беломорски,
од Грамос и Вичо Планина
роден во време опасно,
време комунистичко.
Комунистиве глава кренаа
и мене в зандана турија
за моја жална
Македонија.
Комунистиве ми даваат
рубата комитска
да се претворам во
Турунџе
да се претворам во Гули
војвода
за да си ладам душава
душава моја изгорена.
Не сум ти јас Турунџе
ниту сум Гули војвода
јас сум си самиот комита-
Ристо Беломорски
Дај ми го....шмајзерот
јас да си одам в планина
там да си најдам дружина
дружина одбор комити.
На Грамос
ќе најдам Делчета
на Пирин ќе најдам
Сандански
на Бигла ќе најдам Јордан
Пиперка.
Дружба да дружам
со комити
дружба да дружам,
бој да си бијам
бој да си бијам со три
ламји со три аждаи
со варварите, татарите и
србоманите
што ми грабнаа убава
девојка,
ја грабнаа и оковаа со три
синџири.
Роб робува убава девојка
роб робува седумдесет
години.
Дај ми ја....сабјата
сабјата дипленица
да си искинам синџири
седумдесетгодишни
да си ослободам девојка
робинка
девојка робинка - лична
Македонија.
Земи ги........очиве
моиве две остри сабји
нанижи си ги како два
остри синџири
околу твоите бели гради.
Земи ја........устава
од неа вода да пиеш
јас ќе си одам в планина
и ќе ти бидам комита.
Јас сум ти твојот комита
Ристо Беломорски
од Грамос и Вичо
Планина.
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Risto Belomorski, and he also speaks of Vicho Planina
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Maybe Orovnichanec can get it from MkMuzika?
Orovnichanec, how did you go with this?
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Orovnichanec, how did you go with this?
Tuka si be?
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