Football Thread!

[Spartan]

Thank Prolet!
If Argentina needs something out of the next game, and I think they do, we're pretty much fucked. We dont have the quality to counter Argentinas.
Obviously I hope im proven wrong, but im being realistic.

Samaras looks like Jesus
Dont quote me on this, but I believe he is Australlian born.

[Makedonetz]

Spartan doesn't Samara's mean Camel?

He did resemble the holy one lol

[Spartan]

Not that I know of....and yes, he does have an uncanny resemblance to JC

[Frank]

The Nigerians were in complete control of the game and would have been up more in the 1st half let alone the next 45.

Until that brain explosion gifted the Greeks I seriously coudlnt beleive the Greek side could beat 11 men let alone score a goal

[Frank]

A relexaed Argentina will play some fantastic Football I think the Greeks confidence will be high and try thier Euro tactic of 11 men behind the ball and maybe get a result

3-0 to Argentina

[Bill77]

@ Spartan

First of all I will give credit where itd due. A good game and a good win. Congratulations.


Regarding that record, Greece has not broken it (to become sole holders) but none the less they still hold that terrible record but only diferance is they share it (acording to an aus media outlet).

Why I brought it up is because we have talked about rankings and qualifing before and how Greece are always given an easy path and now history shows they don't deserve it. There are many euro nations that don't qualify but are much better than Greece but the system is flawed when Greece are first or second in pots and are then given teams like Isreal and countries you can't find on a map as major threats in qualification stages.

[Spartan]

how Greece are always given an easy path

Pots and seedings which the qualifying groups aree selected from are determined fairly, and by a system that takes every teams record going back 4 years (i think).....to get an easy group, you have to earn it through winning qualifiers. No team is 'given' anything.
Teams are not randomly placed in groups as UEFA sees fit, but through a draw.
Teams are put into 'pots' determined by the teams recent record....they are then drawn into groups where only 1 team per pot can enter to keep it as even and fair as possible.

The system is not flawed (imo), and rewards the teams who win.
As it should be.

Thank you for the congrats.

Regarding the record, 10 years ago I would have never even dreamed that greece would be in a position to break any WC record....no matter how bad
Im ok with it.

[Prolet]

Either way the last 30 minutes of the second half were brilliant to watch, lets not forget that Greece copped a very weak goal so to come back after that was great.

Slovenija-USA is playing today so is England against Algeria, then Serbia-Germany should be a beauty.

[sf.]

I am really enjoying the football the Mexicans have brought to this Cup.

"Blanco a la presidencia!"

[EgejskaMakedonia]

Originally Posted by Prolet

They got their first ever win

2-1

What a turnaround

Nigeria is out of the tournament

I don't think Nigeria are out of the tournament yet by any means. They definately aren't playing the football needed to proceed to the final 16, but I'd say that despite losing to Greece, Nigeria are still in a better position than the Greeks.
Lets say that it is probable that Argentina will beat the Greeks, although this match is likely to prove meaningless for the Argentinians. Even if they do play some of their reserves, one would think they would still comfortably win over Greece.

South Korea currently look like the team that will catch 2nd spot in Group B. A win over Nigeria will put them through, and a draw may also be a positive result for the Koreans.
Lets say that Nigeria win though and Greece lose. That'd put Argentinia on 9 points, and the remaining 3 countries all tied on 3. A win would mean that Greece's goal difference would decrease by 1 or more. They are currently on a -1 goal difference.
If Nigeria do manage a win by a margin of 1 goal, that will tie the goal difference between Greece and Nigeria as it currently stands. If Greece lose by at least 1 goal, this will put them on -2 goal difference, below Nigeria.

FIFA’s tie-breaking criteria to rank teams in the group stage:

1. Greatest number of points;
2. Goal difference;
3. Greatest number of goals;

So saying that this scenario does play out, and it is possible, Nigeria would still unexpectedly finish in 2nd position. At this stage it seems likely that Korea will take the spot, but anything is possible in such a tight group.
This is provided I have analysed the group properly.

This would leave Nigeria, Korea and Greece all on 3 points.
Nigeria with a -1 goal difference or better, provided they win.
Greece with a -2 goal difference or worse, provided they lose.
Korea with a -2 goal difference or worse, provided they lose.

The way Nigeria are playing at the moment would indicate another loss, especially with such a lack of discipline as seen this morning.

And also just incase it seems like I'm plotting against Greece, I apologize to the likes of Spartan (sorry mate), although I wouldn't exactly say I want the Greeks to win.

Samaras actually reminded me of a big horse lol, must be the long hair and scruffy beard.