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Old 03-01-2021, 05:04 PM   #51
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There are some rumours that Slavs that migrated to Greece were Serb-like genetically. The samples are there but we don't know if they are post or pre-Christianization of Slavs.

If that turns out to be true there was likely a majority replacement since the Classical Age. Over 50% in many parts of mainland Greece.
I just hope the facts are strong, I just want to know the truth nothing political here.

The Moors and Carthaginians in Sicily were Northern African not like Levantines.
Would you be able to elaborate a bit on the notion of Serb-like Slavs migrating to mainland Greece?



According to Radoslav Katicic, it can be shown on the basis of toponomastic material that the Slavs came in direct contact with the Thracians who still spoke their language (Plovdiv, from Thracian Pulpudeva) -- Ancient Languages of the Balkans, page 136, R. Katicic

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Old 03-01-2021, 06:48 PM   #52
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Would you be able to elaborate a bit on the notion of Serb-like Slavs migrating to mainland Greece?



According to Radoslav Katicic, it can be shown on the basis of toponomastic material that the Slavs came in direct contact with the Thracians who still spoke their language (Plovdiv, from Thracian Pulpudeva) -- Ancient Languages of the Balkans, page 136, R. Katicic
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...Romanians-quot

Serbs fall intermediate between Thracians and Northern Slavs but they lean Slavic by 5% to 10%.

Also Bronze Age Hungarians were Albanian-like and Dacians were closer to Thracians genetically. So not necessarily Slavised Thracians.

In Croatia and Slovenia a large population replacement happened. How long did it take Slavs from Ukraine to reach Greece? 100 years? Surely they were at least somewhat different.

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Serbs fall intermediate between Thracians and Northern Slavs but they lean Slavic by 5% to 10%.
Not, according to this


East European (Slavic?) DNA per country
https://www.myheritage.com/ethniciti...e-distribution

Balkan (Thracian-Illyrian?) DNA per country
https://www.myheritage.com/ethniciti...e-distribution

DNA mix in Serbia and all European countries
https://www.myheritage.com/ethniciti...t-country-list
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Not, according to this


East European (Slavic?) DNA per country
https://www.myheritage.com/ethniciti...e-distribution

Balkan (Thracian-Illyrian?) DNA per country
https://www.myheritage.com/ethniciti...e-distribution

DNA mix in Serbia and all European countries
https://www.myheritage.com/ethniciti...t-country-list
They don't have ancient Thracian DNA samples.
The (1) Thracian sample we have is very close to ancient Ionians. It is like a Sardinian shifted Sicilian.




Northern Illyrians were like Northern Italians.
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Debates over "Serb-like Slavs" just sounds superficial and therefore ultimately pointless
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Old 03-02-2021, 02:46 PM   #56
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tchaiku,
what does the first map mean?
Also, did you just write we have one (1) Thracian sample?
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tchaiku,
what does the first map mean?
Also, did you just write we have one (1) Thracian sample?
The map shows the genetic affinity that modern population have with the Thracian in terms of percantages. All humans are related to each other, some more, some less. So the northern regions score lower.

As for the Serb-like samples, those can be dated post-Christianization (of Slavs) period so it's not known for sure if the pagan Slavs in the southern Balkan were like that. The study will come out this or next year.

C.Greek in the second map, is a mixed mainlander-islander, not an actual central Greek, that's why they plot with Abruzzes.

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Serb-like Slavs ..... and Vlach-like Serbs:
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