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Old 06-10-2021, 10:06 PM   #1
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Being an ethnic Macedonian doesn't necessarily make you a good Macedonian. Some of the best defenders of Macedonian liberty have been those that live(d) among us but were never accepted as one of us.

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She's a good Macedonian.
I wish more Macedonians were good Macedonians.
I wish more Albanians were good Macedonians also.
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Being an ethnic Macedonian doesn't necessarily make you a good Macedonian. Some of the best defenders of Macedonian liberty have been those that live(d) among us but were never accepted as one of us.

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By "one of us" do you mean ethnically, nationally or something else?
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By "one of us" do you mean ethnically, nationally or something else?
Its hard to say. Pitu Guli wasn't an ethnic Macedonian nor did he have Macedonian citizenship (cause there was no such thing back then) but he's still accepted as 'one of us'. Maybe its something else.
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I read the article about the Jewish woman a couple of weeks ago. She was born and raised there. She lives in Macedonia. She strives for it's betterment and sovereignty. She is Macedonian.
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I read the article about the Jewish woman a couple of weeks ago. She was born and raised there. She lives in Macedonia. She strives for it's betterment and sovereignty. She is Macedonian.
Her husband and mother appear to be of Macedonian heritage. Her family has been in Macedonia for generations and she has a Macedonian national identity. She is a better Macedonian than Zaev.
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Its hard to say. Pitu Guli wasn't an ethnic Macedonian nor did he have Macedonian citizenship (cause there was no such thing back then) but he's still accepted as 'one of us'. Maybe its something else.
I think it is the broader, national identity, as opposed to the more narrow, ethnic identity. Pitu Guli fought and died with a group that used 'Macedonia for the Macedonians' as its motto and sought the liberation of Macedonia as an autonomous or independent state. Such actions indicate that he espoused a Macedonian national identity and that is why he is accepted as one of us despite having a different ethnic background. In the article, the SDS activists seem more interested in attacking Mizrahi's Jewish heritage rather than contesting her Macedonian identity. Which other defenders of Macedonian liberty do you believe weren't accepted as one of us?
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