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Old 03-10-2023, 12:14 AM   #11
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thanks for the info, i also found something from Stefan Verkovic book -"Songs for Macedo-Bulgaro" in 1860
Do you have a link to this source?
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Do you have a link to this source?
yea here you go : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...B2D0B8D19C.png
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Old 03-14-2023, 07:26 PM   #13
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Thank you for this. Not sure how this book has escaped my notice until now. Very interesting indeed. I suppose what still needs to be clarified is that if Bulgar is a synonym of Slav, why was the Bulgar title far less popular north of Macedonia? Perhaps something to do with the medieval Bulgarian states?
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Does anyone have a link to where I can read Verković's „Народне песме Македонски Бугара“ in its entirety? I am assuming Mr Gurther got their source off Macedonian Wikipedia, which does not provide a page number.
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Thank you for this. Not sure how this book has escaped my notice until now. Very interesting indeed. I suppose what still needs to be clarified is that if Bulgar is a synonym of Slav, why was the Bulgar title far less popular north of Macedonia? Perhaps something to do with the medieval Bulgarian states?
Surely it would have to do with church affiliations/influences. North of Macedonia was the Serbian Orthodox Church which was completely revived in 1879.
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Does anyone have a link to where I can read Verković's Народне песме Македонски Бугара in its entirety? I am assuming Mr Gurther got their source off Macedonian Wikipedia, which does not provide a page number.
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Surely it would have to do with church affiliations/influences. North of Macedonia was the Serbian Orthodox Church which was completely revived in 1879.
Perhaps. I do remember in one of these threads someone providng a source that stated the existence of "Bulgars" in Belgrade so maybe the term was once common.
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Perhaps. I do remember in one of these threads someone providng a source that stated the existence of "Bulgars" in Belgrade so maybe the term was once common.
Let's not forget the Serbs calling themselves Greeks also.
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Let's not forget the Serbs calling themselves Greeks also.
a lot of people in the ottoman empire called themselves whatever, in greece during the early 19 century almost more then half the population of Greece considered themselves as Albanians.
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